Ligonier Valley School District proposes closing Laurel Valley

May 27, 2009 Full story: PittsburghLIVE.com 245

A.J. Panian can be reached via e-mail . Each school day, 12-year-old Braxtyn Clark boards the bus near his Seward home for Laurel Valley Elementary School in St.

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curious

Oxford, MI

#227 Sep 30, 2012
Wow! What a high class rejoinder there, anon...what impressive vocabulary...what astounding comparative analysis and supporting facts to back up the identifiers of "attractive" and "collapsing”.
anon

Johnstown, PA

#228 Oct 2, 2012
curious wrote:
Wow! What a high class rejoinder there, anon...what impressive vocabulary...what astounding comparative analysis and supporting facts to back up the identifiers of "attractive" and "collapsing”.
OK curious,you want facts, we supply them, you ignore them time and time again.
Fact---District in decline
Fact---taxes increasing
Fact---Taxpayers moving out
Fact----School closed on lie (decrease in taxes was promised.
Gact---you have your head either in your own or someone else's backside

Time to wake up and stop drinking the Kool Aid or Ligonier Valley will not be here in the near future due to mergers.
Anwar

New Florence, PA

#229 Oct 3, 2012
Fact- Anon won't be happy until the district has been dissolved, just so she can say, "We told you so!"
Anyone there

Latrobe, PA

#230 Oct 5, 2012
Haven't been on this site for some time. I feel sorry for those still fighting this battle. Can't be very satisfying to spend so much time here. Please, take a breath, have a glass of wine, and listen to whatever music suits you.
anon

Johnstown, PA

#231 Oct 5, 2012
Anwar wrote:
Fact- Anon won't be happy until the district has been dissolved, just so she can say, "We told you so!"
Sorry Anwar, I will not be happy when the district is dissolved, it will be a sad day for everyone. The saddest of all, it was preventable. This was a case of one side gaining power and over-reaching at the cost of families in the name of personal gain. It will be dissolved, it is now being dissolved by people fleeing, and everyone is paying the price except those on the board who do not live in the district as well as Dr Oldham who does not either.
anon2

Johnstown, PA

#232 Oct 5, 2012
Anyone there wrote:
Haven't been on this site for some time. I feel sorry for those still fighting this battle. Can't be very satisfying to spend so much time here. Please, take a breath, have a glass of wine, and listen to whatever music suits you.
People who ignore the issue are not part of any solution. We are fighting for the families in this district as well as the future.
Just wondering

Fenton, MI

#233 Oct 5, 2012
anon wrote:
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OK curious,you want facts, we supply them, you ignore them time and time again.
Fact---District in decline
Fact---taxes increasing
Fact---Taxpayers moving out
Fact----School closed on lie (decrease in taxes was promised.
Gact---you have your head either in your own or someone else's backside
Time to wake up and stop drinking the Kool Aid or Ligonier Valley will not be here in the near future due to mergers.
Fact: our geographic area and thus the district has been in decline and people have been moving out for decades...it has more to do with lack of employment opportunities than anything else.
Fact: taxes are increasing along with the cost of everything else in most places. We travel and read newspapers from across the nation. This is not just a southwestern PA situation.
Fact: taxpayers move to where there are employment opportunities of which there are very few locally.
Fact: taxes would be much higher if we had to maintain two high schools with duplication of basic courses.

What is a Gact?

There may or may not be further mergers. Many states divide districts by counties. Future schools may be run as conglomerates as large corporations are run. I hope not. Cyber schools may be the wave of the future or maybe not. I do not have a crystal ball and neither do you. Wishing misfortune on our students, faculty, and administration is immature. To believe that you will be happier if your doom and gloom predictions come to fruition, is just plain sick.
Anwar

New Florence, PA

#234 Oct 7, 2012
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Anwar, I will not be happy when the district is dissolved, it will be a sad day for everyone. The saddest of all, it was preventable. This was a case of one side gaining power and over-reaching at the cost of families in the name of personal gain. It will be dissolved, it is now being dissolved by people fleeing, and everyone is paying the price except those on the board who do not live in the district as well as Dr Oldham who does not either.
Who has gained personally, and who on the board doesn't live in the district? Let me guess, you heard it from "Makes it up as she goes Mary".
anon

Johnstown, PA

#235 Oct 7, 2012
Anwar wrote:
<quoted text>
Who has gained personally, and who on the board doesn't live in the district? Let me guess, you heard it from "Makes it up as she goes Mary".
Sorry Anwar. I do not talk to Mary. Actually, I do business in the area, know many people, know exactly what I am talking about. Oldham, does not live here, an address at a country club does not mean they reside in the district,and as for the gas rights. we all know who is getting the money. In the future, more will be revealed. Sadly it will be too late for the kids.
anon

Johnstown, PA

#236 Oct 7, 2012
Just wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact: our geographic area and thus the district has been in decline and people have been moving out for decades...it has more to do with lack of employment opportunities than anything else.
Fact: taxes are increasing along with the cost of everything else in most places. We travel and read newspapers from across the nation. This is not just a southwestern PA situation.
Fact: taxpayers move to where there are employment opportunities of which there are very few locally.
Fact: taxes would be much higher if we had to maintain two high schools with duplication of basic courses.
What is a Gact?
There may or may not be further mergers. Many states divide districts by counties. Future schools may be run as conglomerates as large corporations are run. I hope not. Cyber schools may be the wave of the future or maybe not. I do not have a crystal ball and neither do you. Wishing misfortune on our students, faculty, and administration is immature. To believe that you will be happier if your doom and gloom predictions come to fruition, is just plain sick.
You are way off base. I am in business and travel also. Our taxes would not be way higher. The loss of enrollment due to the enrollment and loss of state subsidy is crushing this District. The places that this is happening in the US are places where uncontrolled government are calling the shots. People are moving from the District, but not just because of work but because of lack of a close school. I have at least 6 people at my office with children that looked for nice homes in the New Florence/Seward area but instead opted for United and Ebensburg due to the lack of a close school. Again, I will not be happy with the loss of our district, but sticking our head in the sand will not help anything. Questioning poor decisions by leadership is our right as a nation and people who follow without question are usually lead off a cliff. I can get out and quite frankly will, but those who cannot afford it need a voice.
Anwar

New Florence, PA

#237 Oct 8, 2012
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Anwar. I do not talk to Mary. Actually, I do business in the area, know many people, know exactly what I am talking about. Oldham, does not live here, an address at a country club does not mean they reside in the district,and as for the gas rights. we all know who is getting the money. In the future, more will be revealed. Sadly it will be too late for the kids.
If we all know who it is, why can't you answer the question?
Just wondering

Norwalk, OH

#238 Oct 12, 2012
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
You are way off base. I am in business and travel also. Our taxes would not be way higher. The loss of enrollment due to the enrollment and loss of state subsidy is crushing this District. The places that this is happening in the US are places where uncontrolled government are calling the shots. People are moving from the District, but not just because of work but because of lack of a close school. I have at least 6 people at my office with children that looked for nice homes in the New Florence/Seward area but instead opted for United and Ebensburg due to the lack of a close school. Again, I will not be happy with the loss of our district, but sticking our head in the sand will not help anything. Questioning poor decisions by leadership is our right as a nation and people who follow without question are usually lead off a cliff. I can get out and quite frankly will, but those who cannot afford it need a voice.
Anon's lack of understanding stems from not being able to differentiate between cause and effect. The astounding combination of scotoma and misplaced anger render this blogger completely helpless to grasp reality.
anon

Johnstown, PA

#239 Oct 13, 2012
Just wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Anon's lack of understanding stems from not being able to differentiate between cause and effect. The astounding combination of scotoma and misplaced anger render this blogger completely helpless to grasp reality.
I believe those who do not look at the facts and instead follow the lead of the Powers That Be no matter what are the helpless ones. I am a realist with no anger issues. I believe you need to pull your head from your dictionary and look within.
Just wondering

Fenton, MI

#240 Oct 14, 2012
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe those who do not look at the facts and instead follow the lead of the Powers That Be no matter what are the helpless ones. I am a realist with no anger issues. I believe you need to pull your head from your dictionary and look within.
No need to stick my head in a dictionary. District students are exposed to excellent vocabulary, along with critical thinking skills in our classrooms every day.
anon

Johnstown, PA

#241 Oct 14, 2012
Just wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
No need to stick my head in a dictionary. District students are exposed to excellent vocabulary, along with critical thinking skills in our classrooms every day.
Steve Dunn?? Is this the exposure? They are also exposed to a failing district, long bus rides, and a District that has to have the ACLU intervene to let the taxpayers speak. Now we are so cash strapped we are looking to put advertisements on busses. Don't worry though, maybe there can be a pumpkin roll sale to raise money for the cafeteria.
Ho Hum

Southfield, MI

#242 Oct 20, 2012
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Steve Dunn?? Is this the exposure? They are also exposed to a failing district, long bus rides, and a District that has to have the ACLU intervene to let the taxpayers speak. Now we are so cash strapped we are looking to put advertisements on busses. Don't worry though, maybe there can be a pumpkin roll sale to raise money for the cafeteria.
Anon, mary, and their ilk are very excited by a form letter sent to the school district by the ACLU in response to a complaint by Mary. Newsflash: The ACLU is too busy protecting people from the 10 commandments and protecting those who intimidate at poling places to bother seriously with the Ligonier Valley School District. It is no surprise that the bully Mary runs to the thugs at the ACLU for her own purposes. The ACLU is only interested in high profile situations...that chapter is closed.
anon

Johnstown, PA

#243 Oct 20, 2012
Ho Hum wrote:
<quoted text>
Anon, mary, and their ilk are very excited by a form letter sent to the school district by the ACLU in response to a complaint by Mary. Newsflash: The ACLU is too busy protecting people from the 10 commandments and protecting those who intimidate at poling places to bother seriously with the Ligonier Valley School District. It is no surprise that the bully Mary runs to the thugs at the ACLU for her own purposes. The ACLU is only interested in high profile situations...that chapter is closed.
While I do agree that the ACLU sometimes gets in the way of religion, this is truly a valid point. This board has sidestepped laws from the get go and is currently violating a Sunshine Law by hiding a speech given by Irma at the board meeting. Mary is shedding light on the District and they and their supporters do not like it.
Forum Manager

Latrobe, PA

#244 Oct 25, 2012
Maybe one of you could consider starting a new thread complaining about how poorly LVSD is run. This post was started 20 months ago and the comments no longer seem relevant to the subject topic.
anon

Stoystown, PA

#245 Oct 27, 2012
Forum Manager wrote:
Maybe one of you could consider starting a new thread complaining about how poorly LVSD is run. This post was started 20 months ago and the comments no longer seem relevant to the subject topic.
The comments are all that have happened since the announced closing, all of the warnings of would happened and now sadly have happened. The name tweeking at the top would be just a formality of the same discussion.
anon

Nanty Glo, PA

#246 Nov 5, 2012
Don`t forget to vote for Obama tomorrow!

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