Vote on school merger with facts, heart

Vote on school merger with facts, heart

There are 83 comments on the Gloversville Leader-Herald story from Dec 4, 2012, titled Vote on school merger with facts, heart. In it, Gloversville Leader-Herald reports that:

Mergers might not be the best solution to all problems. We live in small districts because we like the ambiance of small towns, of small schools.

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WOW

East Syracuse, NY

#1 Dec 4, 2012
I can't believe this guys on a school board! I wonder if he has been working on this letter for a year.
Hey, Blanchard if you read this, our children that grow up and chose to live in NY State will be paying for it. All people in the state , not just Oppenheim. The money is gonna go to someone, regardless if your tooo dumb to take it or not. Some school in the state is gonna.
Also, when you consolidate service you can cut back on teachers or offer more curriculum. So your theory of giving half to the teachers is moronic. THERE THE ONES TEACHING THE KIDS.
Lastly, you better check out that million your talkin about. Tranferring from one fund to another doesn't mean you had a surplus.
This guy is on the board? Really? WOW!
Dan

Fort Plain, NY

#2 Dec 4, 2012
Hey zing this guy is right up your alley. We will still have the great elementary. Does that mean our middle and high school suck? What about the band? Wow is all I can say til zing comes on with nonsense and bashing.
So his solution is tuition it all out but we still keep elementary. That is his wonderful idea? But hey, we elected him to the BOE to make these decisions.
See you soon zinger.
Enough

Johnstown, NY

#3 Dec 4, 2012
Can you believe this? We won't save the band it will go to Dolgeville. The director won't have a job unless there's a plan to hire her in Dolgeville. No high school at all yep no identity and all those students in Rockwood Nice ride to Dolgeville. Glenn's masterplan send the high school out. VOTE YES FOr THE MERGER SAVE THE BAND, BUILD A BETTER FUTURE FOR OUR KIDS, BUILD A BIGGER BETTER SCHOOL AND EDUCATION FOR OUR KIDS.. MERGE. WAT DOES THIS GUY CARE HIS GRANDCHILDREN GO TO LITTLE FALLS, HE'S PLANNING FOR NO ONE.
Dan

Fort Plain, NY

#4 Dec 4, 2012
If I understand this correct, he only cares about elementary kids. The older kids, he says who cares and lets just ship them wherever. Holy crap, someone please say I am reading this wrong, which I sure have no problem being wrong.
Confused

Little Falls, NY

#5 Dec 4, 2012
So Glen wants a small school? So wouldn't the merger keep the elementary and middle school in Oppenheim? If you tuition out the kids the would go to a bigger school in dolgeville than what a combined school would be....plus there would no longer be any say that the oe residents would have in what goes on in dolgeville. Many of the teachers are oe residents and former students...what about them when they don't have a job?

Great plan!
Voting no again

Speculator, NY

#6 Dec 4, 2012
Priceless!
Zing

Saint Johnsville, NY

#7 Dec 4, 2012
Ahhhh how sweet, St OZ is PO'ed again because some feel the need to stand up to there crap. Hey did you catch the part about OE kids NOT transferring to ST OZ, wonder why, if your so stinkin great? Did you all notice how the $$$$ don't add up. Did you see how there really is no future with a merge. Simply put these merges don't solve a damn thing. We the commnities/property owners need solutions not BS propaganda on how to screw the tax payers even further into the ground. ST OZ please do tell us how stupid OE people are because they can see through your shite
Zing

Saint Johnsville, NY

#8 Dec 4, 2012
@confused post #5; All I can write is WOW YOU REALLY ARE CONFUSED, or at the very least confusing. Are you getting flustered, because OE has the ball in their court, so to speak(hahahahahahahahahaha) Guess this time you don't get the power to tell OE to shove it up their arse like you did with the "merged sports program".
Voting no again

Speculator, NY

#9 Dec 4, 2012
At this moment a phone conversation is most likely going on with Russom....Cindy and Ben. Russom: how could you two let this happen? I told you both to keep him in line! Cindy: I know Mr. Russom, I know, I tried to tell him. Ben: Now Mr Russom we will fix this! Russom: If you both don't fix this your both off the board! Cindy: Please Mr Russom, don't take my VP position away, I worked so hard for it! Russom: shut up, your only on the board cause your a yes vote, now do as I say and start writing a letter to the papers. Cindy: yes Mr Russom. Dan: what do we say? Russom: do I have to tell you everything? Cindy and Ben: yes Mr Russom without you we are lost! priceless!!!!!!!!!!
Confused

Little Falls, NY

#10 Dec 4, 2012
Zing you can't fix stupid. I feel sorry for you....I really do...
Dan

Fort Plain, NY

#11 Dec 4, 2012
Zing still around with fairy tale talk, that is so sweet. Cool you have a partner now and I'm going to see what you have to say if the tuition deal happens and you lose all the control. But hey, screw the older kids, right zing, we will have a sweet elementary. No band, no middle or high school kids anymore, but we might still have a elementary or maybe not. Right zing
Confused

Little Falls, NY

#12 Dec 4, 2012
I think they should add that as an option on the ballot. I'm willing to bet tuition out will get voted down huge! All no voters lied to sell the story of saving the school...then turn around and tuition the kids out...
Former Student

Gloversville, NY

#13 Dec 4, 2012
I don't understand how tuitioning out our students keeps us with the idea of a small town community or school. Once our children reach middle school, won't they be going to a school with class sizes larger than what st.j and oe combined would be? Should we care only about the elementary students now? Is he changing his argument halfway through his editorial?

He states "We live in small districts because we like the ambiance of small towns, of small schools. Many people have moved here for this reason. They don't want their children to be a "number," but a "someone."

Then he turns around and says" Some of our students could be tuitioned to other districts. This is done with Wheelerville students (to Johnstown) and Edinburg students (to Northville). In this way, we can still keep our small district together. Our great elementary program could be left intact."

He says tuitioning out would keep our small district together. How exactly when the students will be going into a school that is already larger than OE and St.J put together.

I think St.J and OE would still be a relatively small school and we will be more able to keep our identity than if we send our students to Dolgeville and are allowed no input into their education.
Voting no again

Speculator, NY

#14 Dec 4, 2012
You seriously think you will be able to keep your identity with a merge to St J? Are you kidding? St J doesn't want to merge, they want to take it over. If people were so in love with St J they would have sent their kids there. OE doesn't want ST J the only people who post on here that they want a merge are from St J. wake up
Former Student wrote:
I don't understand how tuitioning out our students keeps us with the idea of a small town community or school. Once our children reach middle school, won't they be going to a school with class sizes larger than what st.j and oe combined would be? Should we care only about the elementary students now? Is he changing his argument halfway through his editorial?
He states "We live in small districts because we like the ambiance of small towns, of small schools. Many people have moved here for this reason. They don't want their children to be a "number," but a "someone."
Then he turns around and says" Some of our students could be tuitioned to other districts. This is done with Wheelerville students (to Johnstown) and Edinburg students (to Northville). In this way, we can still keep our small district together. Our great elementary program could be left intact."
He says tuitioning out would keep our small district together. How exactly when the students will be going into a school that is already larger than OE and St.J put together.
I think St.J and OE would still be a relatively small school and we will be more able to keep our identity than if we send our students to Dolgeville and are allowed no input into their education.
Zing

Saint Johnsville, NY

#15 Dec 4, 2012
I'll be danged, look at how ST OZ is so concerned about OE. They turned on us like rabid dogs during the merged sports but now that it's time for a revote they're really pushing for OE to "do the right thing", help them with their tax. Lets not forget how many building projects were needed, stated by their own super at the time. Of course the leader harold & consultants were lying during that little tid bit of info.
Zing

Saint Johnsville, NY

#16 Dec 4, 2012
Voting no again wrote:
You seriously think you will be able to keep your identity with a merge to St J? Are you kidding? St J doesn't want to merge, they want to take it over. If people were so in love with St J they would have sent their kids there. OE doesn't want ST J the only people who post on here that they want a merge are from St J. wake up
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VERY WELL SAID, Voting No Again, I sure hope OE wakes up to what is really going on with this full of crap merge.
Know ODY

Gloversville, NY

#17 Dec 4, 2012
Voting no again wrote:
You seriously think you will be able to keep your identity with a merge to St J? Are you kidding? St J doesn't want to merge, they want to take it over. If people were so in love with St J they would have sent their kids there. OE doesn't want ST J the only people who post on here that they want a merge are from St J. wake up
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I believe they did not send their children to St. J b/c they did not want to deal with the merger at all anymore. They have given up on community doing what is best for their children. There is a reason that St. J and OE were looking to merge together, because they both can not make it on their own but believe in the strength of numbers and working together to survive as communities. I was in school when we looked at Dolgeville a little over 10 years ago and we were not welcomed in the least. Our communities are different. My sibling was in school with this merger study and the attitude of the St. J and OE students was much healthier than what it was when we tried OE and Dolgeville. With Dolgeville our students felt unwelcomed and not needed. They sat the bench during sports. With St. J the students worked together and even achieved going to semi finals. So yes, I think we can keep our identity better in St. Johnsville.
Zing

Saint Johnsville, NY

#18 Dec 4, 2012
Funny how Know ODY's address comes up as ST OZ??????????
Voting no again

Speculator, NY

#19 Dec 4, 2012
Typical yes voter response, it is all for the kids. I will be glad when this vote is over once and for all, though there are some who will complain no matter what the vote turns out to be. Heres a little news flash for you, the merged sport thing is not working out as well as your led to believe. There were a lot of OE kids who didn't join sports this year because they don't like working with St J. I respect your opinion, so please respect mine.
Know ODY wrote:
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I believe they did not send their children to St. J b/c they did not want to deal with the merger at all anymore. They have given up on community doing what is best for their children. There is a reason that St. J and OE were looking to merge together, because they both can not make it on their own but believe in the strength of numbers and working together to survive as communities. I was in school when we looked at Dolgeville a little over 10 years ago and we were not welcomed in the least. Our communities are different. My sibling was in school with this merger study and the attitude of the St. J and OE students was much healthier than what it was when we tried OE and Dolgeville. With Dolgeville our students felt unwelcomed and not needed. They sat the bench during sports. With St. J the students worked together and even achieved going to semi finals. So yes, I think we can keep our identity better in St. Johnsville.
OERes

Saint Johnsville, NY

#20 Dec 4, 2012
Know ODY wrote:
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I believe they did not send their children to St. J b/c they did not want to deal with the merger at all anymore. They have given up on community doing what is best for their children. There is a reason that St. J and OE were looking to merge together, because they both can not make it on their own but believe in the strength of numbers and working together to survive as communities. I was in school when we looked at Dolgeville a little over 10 years ago and we were not welcomed in the least. Our communities are different. My sibling was in school with this merger study and the attitude of the St. J and OE students was much healthier than what it was when we tried OE and Dolgeville. With Dolgeville our students felt unwelcomed and not needed. They sat the bench during sports. With St. J the students worked together and even achieved going to semi finals. So yes, I think we can keep our identity better in St. Johnsville.
They didn't send their children to St. Johnsville because they did the research and found that St. J students are not meeting state testing standards, the town is nothing more than a miniature inner city Alabany and they want better educational institution for their children. According to the one parent who is the biggest promoter of this merger she sent her child to Dolgeville because she's not stupid St. Johnsville is a horrible school and she knows that Dolgeville is a better school academically.

Get your facts straight. Parents moved their kids to Dolgeville so their children DO NOT end up in St. Johnsville. If the merger occurs only about 10 (if even that) of the 100+ students who have moved to Dolgeville will return to the merged district. Dolgeville has graciously accepted the 100+ OE students who have transfered there in the last 2 years. No one is mean to them or excludes them. Many Dolgeville residents would like to see some type of mutually beneficial agreement between OE and Dolgeville. Dolgeville currently has a waiting list of 50+ OE students who want their children to go there instead of St. Johnsville in the event of a merger. There are several families currently or planning on homeschooling their children if a merger occurs. OE resident DO NOT want their children in St. Johnsville!!! It is that simple. Russom and his minions want the merger NOT the majority of the residents. Wasn't this stated LOUD & CLEAR a year ago??? This revote is a waste of time and money!!!!

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