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State To Require Teachers To Take Test On Reading

Aspiring early childhood and elementary school teachers will have to prove they know how to teach reading on a test the State Board of Education has added to Connecticut's teacher certification requirements.

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Put any test you want to in front of me, and I'll pass it. Build the $500 million dollar schools, and that won't change a thing either. You want a test for people to take? Here's one for EVERY parent out there:

1. How many minutes a day do you read to your child instead of plopping him/her in front of a video game?

2. Do you know where your local library is?

3. Do you speak english at home? Because if you don't, all state tests are in english that your child must pass.

4. Do you teach your child manners, respect, social skills which are appropriate for school?

Again, blame must be placed somewhere, so let's hit the front lines. Keep cutting the budget and taking away our reading funds (yesterday's headlines). Step into a suburban school and see how many on site tutors they have who work one on one with struggling students every single day. You want to build schools? Build a few for the "constant" little Johnnies and Janes who disrupt the class to the point where it's impossible to teach the other 19 in the room. Keep cutting the social workers who can provide the needed help to these kids too. The word 'inclusion" just doesn't work in the real world, sorry.
Happy "National Appreciation Week" teachers of CT!! Here's your thanks, another damn test......Anytime any one of you out there who wants an inkling about what our jobs are about, my door will be wide open for you to come through and get a firsthand look..
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May 8, 2008
 
Htfrd frst grd teachr wrote:
Put any test you want to in front of me, and I'll pass it. Build the $500 million dollar schools, and that won't change a thing either. You want a test for people to take? Here's one for EVERY parent out there:
1. How many minutes a day do you read to your child instead of plopping him/her in front of a video game?
2. Do you know where your local library is?
3. Do you speak english at home? Because if you don't, all state tests are in english that your child must pass.
4. Do you teach your child manners, respect, social skills which are appropriate for school?
Again, blame must be placed somewhere, so let's hit the front lines. Keep cutting the budget and taking away our reading funds (yesterday's headlines). Step into a suburban school and see how many on site tutors they have who work one on one with struggling students every single day. You want to build schools? Build a few for the "constant" little Johnnies and Janes who disrupt the class to the point where it's impossible to teach the other 19 in the room. Keep cutting the social workers who can provide the needed help to these kids too. The word 'inclusion" just doesn't work in the real world, sorry.
Happy "National Appreciation Week" teachers of CT!! Here's your thanks, another damn test......Anytime any one of you out there who wants an inkling about what our jobs are about, my door will be wide open for you to come through and get a firsthand look..
SPOT ON!

That's right. Let's blame the teachers for poor performance of students. What was that about the silk purse and the sow's ear?

These kids come to school, without their homework done, throwing things out classroom windows, and "it's the teachers' " fault.
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May 8, 2008
 
The Enfield Teachers Association isnt gonna like this.
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May 8, 2008
 
Soon no one will bother to become a teacher in CT at all. Why bother to go through a torturous certification process to be thrown into a classroom with too many kids, not enough books AND have to justify every move you make to administrators who are petrified of being sued? Then, there are the parents who, with the vast experience of ruining their own child's life, think they have the where with all to tell you how to teach. The priorities in CT's public schools are: 1. Avoid litigation at all costs (that means no doing or teaching anything that someone, somewhere, might not like). 2. Fight over the budget with the town. 3. Get the students to pass standardized tests. 4. Fight with the teacher's union. 5. If there is time and money left over, educate the kids.

I know many people who would make marvelous teachers but absolutely refuse to go through all that. Who suffers?
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May 8, 2008
 
Htfrd frst grd teachr wrote:
Put any test you want to in front of me, and I'll pass it. Build the $500 million dollar schools, and that won't change a thing either. You want a test for people to take? Here's one for EVERY parent out there:
1. How many minutes a day do you read to your child instead of plopping him/her in front of a video game?
2. Do you know where your local library is?
3. Do you speak english at home? Because if you don't, all state tests are in english that your child must pass.
4. Do you teach your child manners, respect, social skills which are appropriate for school?
Again, blame must be placed somewhere, so let's hit the front lines. Keep cutting the budget and taking away our reading funds (yesterday's headlines). Step into a suburban school and see how many on site tutors they have who work one on one with struggling students every single day. You want to build schools? Build a few for the "constant" little Johnnies and Janes who disrupt the class to the point where it's impossible to teach the other 19 in the room. Keep cutting the social workers who can provide the needed help to these kids too. The word 'inclusion" just doesn't work in the real world, sorry.
Happy "National Appreciation Week" teachers of CT!! Here's your thanks, another damn test......Anytime any one of you out there who wants an inkling about what our jobs are about, my door will be wide open for you to come through and get a firsthand look..
Perfect--what about parents? This is the real issue.

Until some politician or state/federal beaurocrat steps up and FINALLY tells the truth, we'll keep avoiding the real problem.

Parents are failling!!!
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May 8, 2008
 
Htfrd frst grd teachr wrote:
Put any test you want to in front of me, and I'll pass it. Build the $500 million dollar schools, and that won't change a thing either. You want a test for people to take? Here's one for EVERY parent out there:
1. How many minutes a day do you read to your child instead of plopping him/her in front of a video game?
2. Do you know where your local library is?
3. Do you speak english at home? Because if you don't, all state tests are in english that your child must pass.
4. Do you teach your child manners, respect, social skills which are appropriate for school?
Again, blame must be placed somewhere, so let's hit the front lines. Keep cutting the budget and taking away our reading funds (yesterday's headlines). Step into a suburban school and see how many on site tutors they have who work one on one with struggling students every single day. You want to build schools? Build a few for the "constant" little Johnnies and Janes who disrupt the class to the point where it's impossible to teach the other 19 in the room. Keep cutting the social workers who can provide the needed help to these kids too. The word 'inclusion" just doesn't work in the real world, sorry.
Happy "National Appreciation Week" teachers of CT!! Here's your thanks, another damn test......Anytime any one of you out there who wants an inkling about what our jobs are about, my door will be wide open for you to come through and get a firsthand look..
Great stuff!!!!

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May 8, 2008
 
Htfrd frst grd teachr wrote:
Put any test you want to in front of me, and I'll pass it. Build the $500 million dollar schools, and that won't change a thing either. You want a test for people to take? Here's one for EVERY parent out there:
1. How many minutes a day do you read to your child instead of plopping him/her in front of a video game?
2. Do you know where your local library is?
3. Do you speak english at home? Because if you don't, all state tests are in english that your child must pass.
4. Do you teach your child manners, respect, social skills which are appropriate for school?
Again, blame must be placed somewhere, so let's hit the front lines. Keep cutting the budget and taking away our reading funds (yesterday's headlines). Step into a suburban school and see how many on site tutors they have who work one on one with struggling students every single day. You want to build schools? Build a few for the "constant" little Johnnies and Janes who disrupt the class to the point where it's impossible to teach the other 19 in the room. Keep cutting the social workers who can provide the needed help to these kids too. The word 'inclusion" just doesn't work in the real world, sorry.
Happy "National Appreciation Week" teachers of CT!! Here's your thanks, another damn test......Anytime any one of you out there who wants an inkling about what our jobs are about, my door will be wide open for you to come through and get a firsthand look..
AMEN! If I could hug you right now, I would.

-A fellow teacher :)
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May 8, 2008
 
oh we are forever testing.
The hard facts of some one that can teach is understanding principles and theories that drive an instruction.
If you force a canned reading program like Hartford does all you get are robots without any sense of what might be behind it or not.
Basically testing is magical..what are the universities doing on the front end maybe that should be looked into instead of test test test oh I passed now I know how to teach reading. Another band aid, hey why not build a magnet school ...theme oh just the facts..real stuff reading writing math...oh that wont do it ok throw in dance and the kids can rap the multiplication tables oh the BS.
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May 8, 2008
 
The juxtaposition of two headlines speaks volumes:“Needy Districts To Face Cuts In School Reading Programs” and “State To Require Teachers To Take Test On Reading.” No evidence is cited to indicate that young students’ reading difficulties have anything to do with in their teachers’ supposedly inadequate skills. Nevertheless, the state is requiring new exams for elementary school teachers. Developing and administering those exams – with no proven benefit – will cost money. At the same time, proven methods for improving children’s reading skills are being cut for lack of funds. To whom does this make sense?
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May 8, 2008
 
Susan Gottsman wrote:
The juxtaposition of two headlines speaks volumes:“Needy Districts To Face Cuts In School Reading Programs” and “State To Require Teachers To Take Test On Reading.” No evidence is cited to indicate that young students’ reading difficulties have anything to do with in their teachers’ supposedly inadequate skills. Nevertheless, the state is requiring new exams for elementary school teachers. Developing and administering those exams – with no proven benefit – will cost money. At the same time, proven methods for improving children’s reading skills are being cut for lack of funds. To whom does this make sense?
Great point. How many different ways can this be said. Kids come to school unprepared to learn and with few skills of discipline. SOOOOOOOOO, let's put the blame for another failure of society on the teacher's back. Peope coming up with these ideas should be immediately fired. So should the Governor and representatives. Are schools perfect? Of course not, but they are doing an incredible job with the funding, materials and ill-prepared students entering the school. I strongly suggest those studying to become teachers IMMEDIATELY leave the profession. Let's see, we are spending how many TRILLIONS in Iraq for the war on terror, and how much $$$$$$$$ on "No Child Left Behind??????????
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May 8, 2008
 
It was about time!!!!!
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May 8, 2008
 
I agree that parents are the only thing that can change this, but I doubt many of the parents that need to help their children ever read a newspaper.

What has really destroyed the family and parental structure is the liberal policies of the last 30-40 years. We have familes where both parents work, we have single moms and dads, we have welfare that promoted multiple children. Guess what teachers YOUR Teachers Union and your Union Dues have supported all of these liberal policies over the years. Liberal policies have always said - throw money at the problems - through more teachers, more special teacher, more administrators, new programs, free lunch, free breakfast, pre-school programs, etc. Never Never has your Teachers Union pushed back on the liberal welfare, low morals, no responsiblity parents. We now feed kids breakfast, lunch, and dinner at schools because these crappy parents are used to having the government pay for everything. Want to stop this?- stop paying your Union Dues. Tell your union to help promote the true solution which is Personal Responsibility of the Parent and Child. I know most of you don't want to pay your union dues any way becuase you don't get get bumpkis for those dollars. The fat cats of your union just get their nice new cars. Do you?
Bad Parents and Bad Unions are the problem with today's schools. My dad was a teacher for 40 years. He was a great teacher. It's a very tough and admirable job.
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May 8, 2008
 
It seems the colleges are always behind when it comes to new methodologies in education. How come we teachers always leave it to the State Department of Education to mandate what we need to do? The state monies are dried up, the BEST program is in shambles, the ARC program looks better on paper than in reality.

Between the state department of ed and the colleges, very few of those leaders know what it is currently like to be on the front lines leading a classroom of children. Many of them are retired administrators, retired superintendents or curriculum supervisors who have bailed out of public education. And most of them were lousy educators to begin with.

Having a masters degree or sixth year or even a doctorate does not
guarantee one becomes a better teacher, but guarantees one only makes a better living.

Schools serve as academic institutions. It is foolish to have a school be "all things to all people." That notion waters down the primary function of education. Even parents can't be all things to all of their children. Effectiveness sometimes means saying, "No."

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May 9, 2008
 
OH BOY wrote:
The Enfield Teachers Association isnt gonna like this.
Forgot the Enfield Teachers' Association! Let's see how long it takes CEA and the AFT to get this one right! In my mind they performed a diservice to all new teachers by challenging the BEST program...
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May 9, 2008
 
Wow, are the teachers against this test, what are they afraid of? There should be tests for each subject a teacher teaches. I know most teachers have nothing to fear but I'll bet some do.
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May 9, 2008
 
How about making prospective parents pass a few simple tests: can they run a household budget? can they read a bedtime story? what do they know about nutrition? How about basic first aid?

Teachers are not the end-all and be-all answer to the many problems children face. Fifteen year olds need to stop having sex that results in a little bundle of joy that they are ill equipped (financially and otherwise) to care for.

DOES THE WHOLE WORLD NEED A WAKE UP CALL?!!!
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May 9, 2008
 
Have to admit, the statement in the article as quoted below is very true though.

"Research suggests that effectively teaching reading requires knowing how to break down a language system and explain the pieces to children, she said...."

Back to the days of long and short vowels, hard and soft consonents, blended letter sounds, syllables and phonics maybe?(with realistic expectations of an absolute average and that not every kid will be an expert reader, speller, mathematician etc., and parental involvment then DOES help-and please pardon any sp errors, no spellcheck present):-)

And so, to those that can read this, we must thank a teacher.
Thankyou teachers.
Happy Teachers' Appreciation Week.
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May 9, 2008
 
Reader wrote:
Have to admit, the statement in the article as quoted below is very true though.
"Research suggests that effectively teaching reading requires knowing how to break down a language system and explain the pieces to children, she said...."
Back to the days of long and short vowels, hard and soft consonents, blended letter sounds, syllables and phonics maybe?(with realistic expectations of an absolute average and that not every kid will be an expert reader, speller, mathematician etc., and parental involvment then DOES help-and please pardon any sp errors, no spellcheck present):-)
And so, to those that can read this, we must thank a teacher.
Thankyou teachers.
Happy Teachers' Appreciation Week.
Reduce class size for the inner city kids!!!!
Let the suburbs have class sizes of 20-25
inner- city 15 tops!!!!!!!!!!
inner city kids are smarter
they just need a little one on one and see them succeeddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!1
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May 9, 2008
 
Htfrd frst grd teachr wrote:
Put any test you want to in front of me, and I'll pass it. Build the $500 million dollar schools, and that won't change a thing either. You want a test for people to take? Here's one for EVERY parent out there:
1. How many minutes a day do you read to your child instead of plopping him/her in front of a video game?
2. Do you know where your local library is?
3. Do you speak english at home? Because if you don't, all state tests are in english that your child must pass.
4. Do you teach your child manners, respect, social skills which are appropriate for school?
Again, blame must be placed somewhere, so let's hit the front lines. Keep cutting the budget and taking away our reading funds (yesterday's headlines). Step into a suburban school and see how many on site tutors they have who work one on one with struggling students every single day. You want to build schools? Build a few for the "constant" little Johnnies and Janes who disrupt the class to the point where it's impossible to teach the other 19 in the room. Keep cutting the social workers who can provide the needed help to these kids too. The word 'inclusion" just doesn't work in the real world, sorry.
Happy "National Appreciation Week" teachers of CT!! Here's your thanks, another damn test......Anytime any one of you out there who wants an inkling about what our jobs are about, my door will be wide open for you to come through and get a firsthand look..
perfect !!!!!!! could not have said it any better, all this for a crappy $35,000 to start and 12 yearly steps ???? never advise anyone to go into teaching !!!!!
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May 9, 2008
 
HFD First Grade Teacher: BRAVO!

But inclusion is politically correct. After all, even those disruptive kids have potential, right? LOL

Another poster wrote about the ARC program. It seems they will accept anyone with a heartbeat, with many math teacher wannabees coming in after majoring in everything under the sun, and "amassing" a whopping 30 credits in math, including 3 cr in Calculus (hope they didn't tax your brains). And then they worry abouyt passing the 0061 PRAXIS, with the pass grade of 137, among the lowest in the nation.
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