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Since: Nov 10

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#22 Dec 4, 2010
coyot e wrote:
Katie= I think some of our fellow posters have a nip as well. Wondering why Erica wants males to be nude all the time so it becomes the norm ?? I think Sir Arthur's posts are quite credible- I am not a CFNM fellow but possibly CMNF- No E-wing for me and certainly would not know any nonces. Did you get rid of the fur from being unable to manipulate a razor ? There may be a male esthetician interred at the prison you work at- Ha !
Very funny that last comment, Coyote, good to have some sense of humour (humor) sometimes. Maybe this is the reason, or one of the reasons, for the double standard in nudity, women are more self-conscious about their bodies.
But it's good advice you gave to Katie, maybe she can go to an aesthetician to have her fur shaved if she can't do it herself, since this seems to be the fashion today. And as you suggest, she will probaly get it free from a competent inmate and save some money.
coyot e

Greenwood, Canada

#23 Dec 4, 2010
Sir Arthur: i think this is rather funny- certainly mandatory nude swimming lowered boys' shyness etc. The girls did not have such forced swims so grew up thinking they should look like the ad models and that is sure sad and causes the mental and physical problems. Not their fault at all and moms should have dealt with it years ago- but who knew. A self help therapy some females have taken has been to visit a c/o beach for comparison and I have read it is a positive self esteem experience. Not certain as I am male- HA! Let the ladies deal with it-they will come up with a solution!

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#24 Dec 4, 2010
coyot e wrote:
Sir Arthur: i think this is rather funny- certainly mandatory nude swimming lowered boys' shyness etc. The girls did not have such forced swims so grew up thinking they should look like the ad models and that is sure sad and causes the mental and physical problems. Not their fault at all and moms should have dealt with it years ago- but who knew. A self help therapy some females have taken has been to visit a c/o beach for comparison and I have read it is a positive self esteem experience. Not certain as I am male- HA! Let the ladies deal with it-they will come up with a solution!
They will have to shave their fur first before going on a nude beach.
But you could be right, if girls also had mandatory nude swimming at school they would get used to being comfortable with their body. But somehow back then everybody thought that a girl's or woman's nude body was indecent. Not so with boys.
coyot e

Greenwood, Canada

#25 Dec 4, 2010
Rite- Katie has got to lose the fur regardless but for sure Katie would not go to a nude beach- she seems to get hung up on that and only enjoyed it with a boyfriend on a remote island. On one forum a no. of females claim they wanted nude swims at YW but could not get approval except for a YW in Vancouver. I think females are active in the mixed nude swimming programs that exist in which pools are rented at different facilities. Good for them !
Tookey

UK

#26 Dec 4, 2010
All very juvenile. I did this for real, okay,(see my posts on the naked swimming at school section) and in practice it is just not the big deal it seems when writing about it.
I had totally naked swim lessons, and leisure, in the school pool, with totally naked girls at the same time and in the same class. I did this until I was 16, for five whole years, not naked everytime but certainly 80 percent of the time. Typical swim class was a dozen naked lads, one or two in trunks, half a dozen naked girls, maybe 4 more in costumes. All free choice by the way, but lads peer pressure made it feel compulsory in a way.
What a shame more haven't enjoyed this way of things. I recommend it for fostering healthy, open minded, mature attitudes in those involved.
OZMAN

Australia

#27 Dec 4, 2010
Boys swam naked as a matter of course in the Victorian era,and in the last century,nude swimming was quite normal for boys in schools,the YMCA,youth camps etc.
It was accepted and unremarkable.
I recall skinny dipping in the cubs and boy scouts on many occasions.
Admittedly,this was not in a generally public area.
Most boys,and I would imagine girls too,enjoy the freedom of swimmiing naked.
I think until kids reach puberty and become aware of their bodies and sexuality,thay are perfectly happy to run around naked,unless adults intervene to make them feel guilty about it.
Now days of course,with the pedophile hysteria stirred up by self-interested individuals and the sensation mongering press,such innocent past times of bygone eras are being stamped out wholesale.
Suspicion rules,more's the pity!
Tookey

UK

#28 Dec 4, 2010
I was doing it at school well past puberty as a fully developed young male, as did my mates and the girls too. I remember feeling a bit sorry for a lad who by 15 was still swimming with a bald cock when the rest of us boys proudly had our hairy willies, which obviously the girls in our class would have looked at, or been interested in, but never teased or sniggered, as we didn't at them. Free choice and compulsion makes a huge difference on a personal nudity issue, and I cannot imagine the distress being forced into it against your wishes would feel.
OZMAN

Australia

#29 Dec 5, 2010
Tookey wrote:
I was doing it at school well past puberty as a fully developed young male, as did my mates and the girls too. I remember feeling a bit sorry for a lad who by 15 was still swimming with a bald cock when the rest of us boys proudly had our hairy willies, which obviously the girls in our class would have looked at, or been interested in, but never teased or sniggered, as we didn't at them. Free choice and compulsion makes a huge difference on a personal nudity issue, and I cannot imagine the distress being forced into it against your wishes would feel.
Geez!
Where did you go to school Tookey and when?
I have never before heard of boys and girls at school
swimming nude together.
Over here I think the parents would have gone berko if that
had been happening.
Not that I am disagreeing with it in principle.
Tookey

UK

#30 Dec 5, 2010
OZMAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Geez!
Where did you go to school Tookey and when?
I have never before heard of boys and girls at school
swimming nude together.
Over here I think the parents would have gone berko if that
had been happening.
Not that I am disagreeing with it in principle.
This thing sounds worse in the writing than in the practice, really it does. But I was never forced to. Read my posts on the naked swimming thread that I wrote during the last few weeks. I was at Summerhill School as a boarder until 1991. Nudity was common, almost encouraged. Not everybody did, but the majority. In swimming there was no boy girl divide, even when naked. Frequently you'd have mixed ages too, and at 16 I could share the pool with people 4 years younger. When I began at 11, the pool often had some older pupils aged 16-18 helping the younger ones out. They always went in the pool naked. I could've worn an all over Victorian style swim outfit if I wanted, but for at least 80% of us, the naked swimming was what we went for. Being mixed didn't matter, certainly after the initial step into it. As I got older and bigger I still behaved the same. Few of my fellow pupils began to trunk up when they got to 13 or so. We were used to each other. I even sunbathed naked in the grounds near the pool a few times in my leisure time with boys and the girls, some naked some not, and enjoyed playful frolicking and good humoured teasing.
So yes, even as a boy of 16 I swam naked in classes involving naked girls my age, younger and older. A total mix up and no hang ups from me, or anyone I knew.
OZMAN

Australia

#31 Dec 5, 2010
Tookey wrote:
<quoted text>
This thing sounds worse in the writing than in the practice, really it does. But I was never forced to. Read my posts on the naked swimming thread that I wrote during the last few weeks. I was at Summerhill School as a boarder until 1991. Nudity was common, almost encouraged. Not everybody did, but the majority. In swimming there was no boy girl divide, even when naked. Frequently you'd have mixed ages too, and at 16 I could share the pool with people 4 years younger. When I began at 11, the pool often had some older pupils aged 16-18 helping the younger ones out. They always went in the pool naked. I could've worn an all over Victorian style swim outfit if I wanted, but for at least 80% of us, the naked swimming was what we went for. Being mixed didn't matter, certainly after the initial step into it. As I got older and bigger I still behaved the same. Few of my fellow pupils began to trunk up when they got to 13 or so. We were used to each other. I even sunbathed naked in the grounds near the pool a few times in my leisure time with boys and the girls, some naked some not, and enjoyed playful frolicking and good humoured teasing.
So yes, even as a boy of 16 I swam naked in classes involving naked girls my age, younger and older. A total mix up and no hang ups from me, or anyone I knew.
Yes! I seem to recall reading about Summerhill School somewhere.
It is a very progressive institution I believe,and still rather contraversial.
You were rather fortunate I think to have so much freedom growing up.
I am not sure if I would agree with all of the ideas associated with such schools,but perhaps I am prejudiced by my own experience of education and its ideals.
Interesting post and thank you.
coyot e

Greenwood, Canada

#32 Dec 5, 2010
Aw C/mon Tookey- after all the posts finally a male has responded with his experiences (fantasies)- not very constructive to we of the more common forced program ) If you truly participated in those classes- fine- like to hear from an authentic female who would concur as our girl in UK (Katie would never have done this) and she is our english girl role model at this point. Let's keep it light pal !

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#33 Dec 6, 2010
Whether Tookey went to Summerhill school or not, what he describes is exactly what took place at that school. This is amply documented and there is even a documentary about that school from the 70's showing both boys and girls of different ages swimming nude together in that school's pool. It was a very liberal school, and even raised some controversies at the time.
Jim in Florida

Vero Beach, FL

#34 Dec 6, 2010
Tookey wrote:
<quoted text>
This thing sounds worse in the writing than in the practice, really it does. But I was never forced to. Read my posts on the naked swimming thread that I wrote during the last few weeks. I was at Summerhill School as a boarder until 1991. Nudity was common, almost encouraged. Not everybody did, but the majority. In swimming there was no boy girl divide, even when naked. Frequently you'd have mixed ages too, and at 16 I could share the pool with people 4 years younger. When I began at 11, the pool often had some older pupils aged 16-18 helping the younger ones out. They always went in the pool naked. I could've worn an all over Victorian style swim outfit if I wanted, but for at least 80% of us, the naked swimming was what we went for. Being mixed didn't matter, certainly after the initial step into it. As I got older and bigger I still behaved the same. Few of my fellow pupils began to trunk up when they got to 13 or so. We were used to each other. I even sunbathed naked in the grounds near the pool a few times in my leisure time with boys and the girls, some naked some not, and enjoyed playful frolicking and good humoured teasing.
So yes, even as a boy of 16 I swam naked in classes involving naked girls my age, younger and older. A total mix up and no hang ups from me, or anyone I knew.
Were the instructors ever naked? or just the students?
katie

UK

#35 Dec 7, 2010
Coyote come back.
coyot e

Greenwood, Canada

#36 Dec 7, 2010
Hi : Sorry Katie- just that (my opinion) I am not sure I can accept some of the scenarios being stated as true. Hope your health is improving and please understand I accept "to each their own".
coyot e

Greenwood, Canada

#37 Dec 7, 2010
Now Katie- I came back because of your post and you have not responded- have posted in 2 or 3 topix ,since your above post, and was looking for you to add a bit- even the "fur prob." or the scales. Modesty is not a joke- but we can joke about it- I think !!
coyot e

Greenwood, Canada

#38 Dec 7, 2010
Katie-was under impression we could have some laughs on this topix- but seemingly not - so will go back into !!!!!!
coyot e

Greenwood, Canada

#39 Dec 7, 2010
katie- forget it
stewart

Gainesville, FL

#40 Dec 16, 2010
Hey all,

Summerhill is well known for the activites mentioned. It is not in the mainstream of schools in the UK or US. No need to immediately jump on folks as if everything unimaginable to you is a fantasy.

There are a few summer camps in New England that still include mixed gender nude swimming. There is a boys' summer camp in Vermont that encourages nudity, even though there are female staff on the premises.

What has changed is the run-of-the-mill idea in certain places that boys would certainly be naked when swimming. I swam naked at the Y in Wisconsin in 1968.

best to all
Stewart
Swimmer

Chicago, IL

#41 Sep 9, 2011
Sir Arthur wrote:
You are right, boys should be made to swim nude everywhere. Swimming trunks look ridiculous and out of place on boys up to teen age.
That's how it was done in the old days, and this custom should be brought back for boys.
When swimmers wear Speedos they aree displaying more than if they were nude. In most cases you can see the outline of a guys cock and balls. You can even tell if he is cut or not.

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