Jordan Moore

Vass, NC

#1 Aug 23, 2013
The way we education the younger generation needs major improvement, no where else is that evident than in the United States-
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Jordan Moore

Vass, NC

#2 Aug 23, 2013
The link will take you to a discussion on education in the United States.
Detargs

Katowice, Poland

#3 Dec 9, 2013
Because of education reform also in kindergarten, many programs appeared which should be a help for parents and teachers. For example there is a site mykindergarten.co.uk which offers various services like CSM
Phil

Manchester, UK

#5 Dec 9, 2013
phil wrote:
Bottom line seems to be that some people minded, some people didn't. Vive la difference and all that. I didn't mind actually having the opportunity to take a shower after PE 'cause I hated getting mucky, especially after a cross country run or something, or rolling round in the mud. However, the handling of it could have been a little more tactful. Wasn't so much my fellow pupils I minded it in front of. As I said in an earlier post, it was one particular teacher. Would she have showered with us? I doubt it. She just enjoyed her bit of power (and, no, she wasn't a lesbian). When others supervised (we did have 'helper' teachers who did games lessons and sometimes supervised the showers), it wasn't so much of an issue as they were more sensitive and discreet. It was the handling of the situation by the responsible adults that was relevant. As Peter The Great, above, says, some teachers are predisposed to bullying and our PE teacher just happened to be one of those. Her behaviour was perpetuated in lessons, not just the showers.
It was happenIng until I left in 1978. I think there are enough of us recounting horror stories on here and remembering experiences in the PE showers to confirm it was a bad idea and a great one that it no longer happens.
Had you considered, they were watching to see everyone had a shower or supervise? At primary we had to shower in commual showers. Like someone else said, I too was an early developer and seemed to be only one wih pubes & boobs lol. Nothing ever happened as far as I know but it was a bit cringey.
At secondary school the teachers at my school weren't allowed in the changing rooms and I can tell you some of the most horrible abuse happened between pupils there, involving things like heads being put into toilets and clothes being run under the shower.
Once when I was about 12 another girl grabbed me in the changing rooms after PE and dug her finger nails into my arms so hard it left individual bleeding nail marks on me (because I wasn't very good at rounders and was in her team). Luckily despite dreading PE after that, I was tall so wasn't generally picked on. I think teachers are damned if they are there looking and then damned if they are not there.
Surely there should be more testing, maybe even pyscological testing of people training to be teachers. We should be able to trust them to look after children without being pervs. A lot of my friends are teachers and I find them having children or ex-pupils as friends on facebook for example totally wrong. Maybe they need lessons on being professional.
"Had you considered, they were watching to see everyone had a shower...."

DJW's favourite fantasy.
MaltaMon

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Dec 9, 2013
And from 1978. He lives in the past, but it's not even a real past. Certainly not HIS past. It's a distant past of sexual fantasy for DJW, a "man" who admits to being in his forties and who has never been kissed romantically. His lonely, sad way of life is itself the kiss of death. Indeed, he's already dead. He just won't lie down.
Phil

Manchester, UK

#8 Dec 10, 2013
djw wrote:
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I lost a lot of time off school because of an accident and when I went back, at 12 years old on cruches, I could not think why all my old & knew friends from juniour school had to go nude?
I lot of girls I knew hated Tuesday & Thursday [PE] it just put them off school because for 1min [Nothing to do with smelling nice, no soap or time] It just didn't feel right to them and they had a point I think it;s called instincts and say if your not happy?
By the way because I couldn't do PE I had a little job to but things away, when just walking again, and the store room between both girls/boys made it an easy way to look in the showers.
I am not having a go and a lot of older girls/boys [at 15] thought it was a good laugh, but a bit of choice for the early teens. How much can it cost for a door and some soap?
If someone came up to me in the street and punched me right across the face, I'm sure I would get over it and not spend 20 years being traumatised by the experience. But that doesn't make it acceptable to use as some sort of defense argument that punching people is alright.
I started senior school in 1959 and there were no showers in our school, I don't even think I knew what a shower was then! There were about six large sinks in the girls' cloakroom where we changed. You could wash in those if you wanted.
The Girls' toilets were a brick-built building outside! The bit where you stood waiting to use a cubicle was open-air.
And that I guess is the difference some people here have pointed out between British and other countries.
For the folk in our Swedish office it seemed entirely normal.
They were aware of our British views on this though, and if Brits were visiting the office even though we were aware they did have saunas, they rarely seemed to suggest "let's go have a sauna" after work - it was more generally, "let's go have a drink". Though even they were surprised when one of my British female colleagues joined them in the Sauna once.
Most of the time, the saunas were taken on a single sex basis. Public saunas in Sweden are generally single sex. But they would be naked, not wrapped in a towel or anything.
From my experience they certainly did see their colleagues in a sexual way, just as much as any Brit might - they would talk about fancying attractive colleagues just like anyone else. But I guess also able to take a sauna with them without rising to the occassion!
They did joke about the fact though that on occasions some of the males had to excuse themselves and leave...
ust commenting on the "basic hygiene" assumption. In the case of my school I have to disagree.
We weren't in the showers long enough to observe any hygiene - 1 minute max. I'm not even sure it was as long as 1 minute actually.
We all just used to stand there with the water just running down our fronts - nothing else. And because we were all hunched up trying to cover ourselves the water didn't get anywhere else. We came out barely wet. No soap was used, no armpits were scrubbed. In short, no hygiene was observed.
So there was absolutely no point to the entire procedure. All it achieved was making 12 and 13 year old girls feel even more self-conscious about their bodies.
Blimey at that age your body's changing all the time. The school should have at least given us the chance to get used to our own bodies before forcing us to expose them on our classmates.
Just not right.
Phil is gulty in Mancunia!
To the charge of exposing you as a pedo and a liar, yes, I plead guilty.
MaltaMon

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Dec 12, 2013
PA DAD JAM WAFFLES wrote:
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Interesting thread. I never did PE because I'm disabled, but every week I had to sit and watch my class mates strip off for a shower while I just sat wondering where to look! At our school towels were provided, and they were miniscule-you certainly couldn't wrap one round you. One week one of the boys was pushed naked out of the boys showers and into ours. Everyone hated the whole thing.
If pupils no longer have to shower, and if even back then most people only had minimal contact with water, where does that leave the arguement that without showers pupils would be stinking out the classroom for the rest of the day?(Actually in our school it was rare for anyone to break a sweat. Usually 25 girls lined up, and one by one they threw a javelin or threw a discus while the rest watched and shivered, and I wrote down the scores. Then they all trooped in again for showers.)
I don't care what people do in other parts of the world. This is the UK, and most people never see another person naked, not even members of their family. Of course they are going to find it shocking and humiliating.
Everyone goes on about being sweaty after PE, we never done anything in PE to make us sweaty, it was a 50 min period - 5-10 mins getting changed, 40 mins left - 10 mins teacher telling what to do - 30 mins left, but with 10 mins to get ready again, we were getting 20 mins of PE, and in a class of 30 waiting to take their turn at the activity, you were lucky with 5 mins of exercise, so no need for showers there
I find it very weird that now, there's extensive sex education, but also this huge problem about kids showering! Used to be exactly the other way round ........
Various factors...The arrival of a lot of Muslim children, who are brought up to be modest...the change in the atmosphere of schools so they are seen more as a partnership rather than a dictatorship (which can work much better than the Daily Express pretends)...the belated awareness of decades of sexual abuse, and the rather over-heated debates about it...the general downgrading of PE and games, which used to have an almost sacred status in some schools...the gradual replacement of old school buildings with newer ones, which don't have run-through showers...
My old work was next to a school and it was pretty much like you describe from what I saw. Just kids larking about, being told to do ridiculously long winded team sports that resulted in more chaos and confusion than exercise.
Bring back the good old days when kids ran around a field a few times and really worked up a sweat. No wonder so many of them are over weight.
Those of us who found compulsory naked showers an ordeal back in the 1970's are indifferent about voluntary naked showers in 2011.
So now you post as a female! And a sensible female, albeit disabled, at that. What's next, DJ?? Do you even read what you post?
MaltaMon

Conshohocken, PA

#12 Dec 14, 2013
PA DAD JAM WAFFLES wrote:
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It does not matter that we read but we must follow our conscience Molly. If you are sincere in your desire for educational reform we must start by countering the sexualization of children by "Soccer Moms" and Sexual predators in the United States.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Cs7bmReVi2kXX
Sexualizing children: Little girls Burlesque in Nude Suits
These are little girls. That is so sick for their age.&#65279;
Stupid and fat mums. The USA it is a stronghold for all global pedophilia. About what it is possible to speak in general if the American psychiatrists have recognized pedophilia as a version of sexual orientation.&#65279;
Heidi Scott1 week ago
Its not harmless at all? Huh da fuk?? It so is!!! I have daughters & i can say that i would not let my kids be sexualised like this its sick & just a way for pedos to get off it shouldnt be aloud.. Why would people want to watch children be illusioned to be naked??! Just wrong&#65279;.
Maltamon must lobby Congress now!
I am an educator, DJ. I began my adult life as a teacher, and following a break of two decades in government, I returned to teaching. What have you done from the loneliness of your room, sitting bare-assed at your computer, besides lift from others without attribution the lurid fiction and tortured recollections of a long-distant past and get off autoerotically to the intrusive, abusive and illegal images of naked young boys?
MaltaMon

Dorval, Canada

#13 Dec 14, 2013
I am an educator,. I began my adult life as a teacher, and following a period of two decades supervising boys swimming nude at a local swim club, I returned to teaching. What I have done from the loneliness of my room, is watch videos of boys being spanked bare-assed on my computer, And read correspondence from Phil about the lurid friction of tortured bare buttocks of an adolescent boy and get off autoerotically to the interesting, exclusive and legal images of naked young boys?
Phil

Manchester, UK

#15 Dec 15, 2013
Maltese man wrote:
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I am a sex educator, Phil, I began my adult porn life as Biology teacher, and following a break of two decades in Sing Sing Prison, I returned to nude weigh ins in the school gym.
What have you done from the school changing room, showering bare-assed at the direction of the PE Teachers, besides lift from Line Dazzle without attribution the lurid fiction and tortured recollections of a long-distant past and get off auto erotically to the intrusive, abusive and illegal images of naked young Penis-sylvanians?
Not an original thought in DJW's tiny, immature, underdeveloped excuse for a brain.
What a waste of chemicals he is.
DJW, do yourself and the world a favour.
Go to the vets and have yourself put down.
MaltaMon

Emmaus, PA

#16 Dec 15, 2013
Maltese man wrote:
<quoted text>
I am a sex educator, Phil, I began my adult porn life as Biology teacher, and following a break of two decades in Sing Sing Prison, I returned to nude weigh ins in the school gym.
What have you done from the school changing room, showering bare-assed at the direction of the PE Teachers, besides lift from Line Dazzle without attribution the lurid fiction and tortured recollections of a long-distant past and get off auto erotically to the intrusive, abusive and illegal images of naked young Penis-sylvanians?
Do you even know where Sing Sing is, or that Sing Sing is not the real name of the prison?
MaltaMon

Philadelphia, PA

#17 Dec 16, 2013
I clearly hit a nerve... insofar as DJW has nerves. He posted twice in reaction to mine, and rather than follow his usual pattern of pretending to ignore what I've said and posting the text of someone else's sexual fantasy, child porn, or embroidered account of real or imagined nudity-induced trauma back in the 1960s, 1970s, or 1980s, he actually takes what I have written and rewrites it--not once, but TWICE!! Lol. What I wrote is so terribly close to the truth of DJW's life that it had the extraordinary impact of actually pissing him off. Lol.
Phil

Manchester, UK

#18 Dec 16, 2013
MaltaMon wrote:
I am an educator,. I began my adult life as a teacher, and following a period of two decades supervising boys swimming nude at a local swim club, I returned to teaching. What I have done from the loneliness of my room, is watch videos of boys being spanked bare-assed on my computer, And read correspondence from Phil about the lurid friction of tortured bare buttocks of an adolescent boy and get off autoerotically to the interesting, exclusive and legal images of naked young boys?
This is the opening paragraph of Bob's autobiography.
Sold in all gay sex shops.
MaltaMon

Merchantville, NJ

#20 Dec 16, 2013
djw wrote:
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You should no Phil you are the Queen of the Manchester Gay scene.
Phil can't hide his Mancunian Gay pride.
Swimming naked: my high school swim team did!
By Norm, November 12, 2013 at 9:46 am
Swimming naked: my high school swim team did!
No, this is not me.
After watching swim team meets between other schools, I tried out for our high school swim team (I attended Harrison High School in Chicago from 1946-1950) and what do you know, I made it! As I relive this memory it also talks to how swimming has changed in six decades and all for the better.
I went to my first practice session in our swimming pool and I saw no one wearing a bathing suit. It was strange seeing my swim team members jumping into the pool while their private parts also jumped. It was liberating without swim trunks and actually without the heavy boxer short swims suits it helped us stroke that much faster.
I tried out for the relay swim team and lost by a stroke but I still remained on the team as a substitute. Then it was time to swim against another high school. There wasnít any audience (donít ask me why) but there we were, two teams competing without swim trunks. When I think about it I find it hilarious to believe we ever practiced and competed completely naked. Now the fun part!
We had another meet, this time with an audience of men and women. No! I know what youíre thinking but we wore the worst fitting swim suits of that era. One of our swimmers was in the 40 yard free style. Most pools of that time were twenty yards as pools by meters were not built at that time. So they dove off the side of the pool, did their belly flop and off they went.
When the swimmers came to the end of the first lap, they pulled their bodies out of the water and released their feet off the pool and it happened. When one of our swimmers pushed off the side of the pool his swim trunks began to slide off his waist and his buns started to show. W
Now in todays swimming you wear the skin tight suit so water canít crawl into the suit and you lose it. In addition, you no longer jump from the side of the pool into the water with a body flop.
My memory of the better swim times has faded but they probably couldnít compete with the modern day swimmer. Todayís techniques and practice are so far apart to my era but so much better for todayís competitors.
Now back to my time. I was trying out for the long distance team. We had to swim 100 yards, 5 lengths of the pool and it was the most embarrassing trial run I could have had. There I am butt naked, never swam the distance but when all my team mates were finished I was last in the pace. I actually changed lanes all through my tryout. You guessed it, I did not make the long distance team.
After that we were to assemble around the pool in our swim trunks for a team picture. While the photographer set up his equipment I strolled into the hallway and saw some guys playing basketball in the small gym. So I started to play the game with them, barefoot and in swim trunks! I got so engrossed in the game I forgot about the team picture and I never took my place for the photo. So Harrisonians, you wonít find my photo with the swim team in any of our year books. But I did end up on the basketball team.
This is what I love about Chicago Then. I can fill in the blanks with memories of another time but I can make it a semi-autographical history of my own life way back when.
You have never set foot in North America, DJ, much less in Chicago. I taught high school there for five years. What would you know about Chicago then or now? And Phil a queen? Projection, DJ. We all know that you're the Fa** ggot Queen of England.
MaltaMon

Merchantville, NJ

#21 Dec 16, 2013
Phil wrote:
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This is the opening paragraph of Bob's autobiography.
Sold in all gay sex shops.
Well, not in all of them. Only in those in the worst neighborhoods.
Norwere

Bielsko-biala, Poland

#22 Dec 23, 2013
Education reforms in UK? Yep they exist but we should ask ourselfs. If they are really so important to be noticed by us?

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