MaltaMon

Thomasville, PA

#74 Oct 1, 2012
I don't understand the interest in CFNM involving children. Children shouldn't be the objects of adult sexual fantasy. Just sayin'
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Bristol, VA

#75 Oct 1, 2012
MaltaMon wrote:
I don't understand the interest in CFNM involving children. Children shouldn't be the objects of adult sexual fantasy. Just sayin'
The ones to ask would be Phil, DJW, SLC and Katie Woodhill. Every post they make is about the swimming/bathing habits of male children being monitored by clothed females.
Phil

London, UK

#76 Oct 2, 2012
"Every post they make is about the swimming/bathing habits of male children being monitored by clothed females"

In my particular case your evidence is?
Put up or shut up.
It would be uncharitable to call you a liar.
Just obsessed maybe.
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Bristol, VA

#77 Oct 2, 2012
Phil wrote:
In my particular case your evidence is?
Put up or shut up.
Done:
Phil wrote:
a school for able bodied boys up to the age of 16. it was made clear that the showers would be supervised by the (female) staff.
Phil wrote:
schoolchildren were enjoying a birthday party at a pool on the same night a group of nudists had booked a swimming session.
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Bristol, VA

#78 Oct 2, 2012
More:
Phil wrote:
It's amazing how boys become regular users of soap and water and the shower when girls appear on the scene, as my teenage son will verify.
Phil wrote:
By the age of 14 most boys are no longer little boys anymore so if the idea of stopping forced showers is to spare the boys blushes it's a bit late for that as they will have seen it all anyway.
Phil

London, UK

#79 Oct 2, 2012
"Every post they make is about the swimming/bathing habits of male children being monitored by clothed females"

Once again, put up or shut up.
I see one post out of four which might fit your criteria and quoted by you out of context.
Also the fact you have the time to trawl through old posts in a poor attempt to back up your silly statement shows what a sad and empty life you must lead.
Or maybe you keep a dossier on such issues to 'amuse' yourself with during the long lonely nights.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#80 Oct 2, 2012
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The ones to ask would be Phil, DJW, SLC and Katie Woodhill. Every post they make is about the swimming/bathing habits of male children being monitored by clothed females.
Mr. Censored is a god damn liar. I never said or implied that male high school students in swim classes were monitored by clothed females at the high school I attended. I challenge Mr. Censored to cite a post where I said any such thing. In fact, I made it clear that such was not the case at the high school I attended.
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Kingsport, TN

#81 Oct 2, 2012
SLC wrote:
I never said or implied that male high school students in swim classes were monitored by clothed females at the high school I attended. I challenge Mr. Censored to cite a post where I said any such thing.
CFNM:
SLC wrote:
a couple of occasions a girl entered the ramp leading from the girls locker room to the pool observing the boys.
Phil

Manchester, UK

#82 Oct 2, 2012
"monitored by clothed females"

Censored, read that again.
Slowly.
You are getting so desperate you cannot distinguish between being monitored (keep under systematic review or/and maintain regular surveillance over) and someone accidentally(?) coming into a room.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#83 Oct 2, 2012
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CFNM:
<quoted text>
This is what Mr. Censored said: "Every post they make is about the swimming/bathing habits of male children being monitored by clothed females. "

Two brief incursions hardly counts as monitoring. Monitoring would consist of, for instance, a female lifeguard or a female gym/swimming instructor, neither of which ever occurred. I suggest that Mr. Censored grow up and stop trying to promote home runs.
MaltaMon

Perkasie, PA

#84 Oct 2, 2012
I still don't believe that any of this would have occurred in an American school when I was growing up. They issued tank suits to every boy and girl which had to returned at the end of the class... and STILL our swim classes were segregated by sex. No co-ed swimming or use of the pool by both sexes, even with classes conducted independently of one another. In the gym, a collapsing wall that went from floor to ceiling separated our phys ed classes that weren't in the pool, and we alternated with regard to use of the pool. Early 1970s. Nudity in the pool? Give me a break!
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Kingsport, TN

#85 Oct 2, 2012
SLC wrote:
This is what Mr. Censored said: "Every post they make is about the swimming/bathing habits of male children being monitored by clothed females. "
Two brief incursions hardly counts as monitoring. Monitoring would consist of, for instance, a female lifeguard or a female gym/swimming instructor, neither of which ever occurred. I suggest that Mr. Censored grow up and stop trying to promote home runs.
Define the presence of clothed females however you like: "monitored", "entered, "barged in"...

It's all HUMILIATION forced on nude males, and this is the aspect which SLC, Phil, Bob, Katie Woodhill and other CFNM fetishists fantasize over.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#86 Oct 3, 2012
MaltaMon wrote:
I still don't believe that any of this would have occurred in an American school when I was growing up. They issued tank suits to every boy and girl which had to returned at the end of the class... and STILL our swim classes were segregated by sex. No co-ed swimming or use of the pool by both sexes, even with classes conducted independently of one another. In the gym, a collapsing wall that went from floor to ceiling separated our phys ed classes that weren't in the pool, and we alternated with regard to use of the pool. Early 1970s. Nudity in the pool? Give me a break!
There are newspaper accounts from Duluth, MN., Sheboygan, WI., and Houston TX. whkich have been posted on the Internet which talk about the practice being ended. I don't know when or where Mr. MaltaMon went to high school but boys swam naked during the 1950s at Los Angeles High School and, if the newspaper articles are to be believed, in Duluth, Sheboygan, and Houston at the least. And, when the practice ended due to the successful law suit in LA, my former high school went to coed swim classes with both sexes wearing swim suits. There are also what appear to be credible claims that some high schools in Chicago, Detroit, New York City, and Rochester, NY. also had naked boys swimming classes.

Apparently, if first hand accounts are to be credited, the practice was also not unknown in Catholic Parochial schools (that happened to have swimming pools), which, back in the 1950s, were invariably single sex.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#87 Oct 3, 2012
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Define the presence of clothed females however you like: "monitored", "entered, "barged in"...
It's all HUMILIATION forced on nude males, and this is the aspect which SLC, Phil, Bob, Katie Woodhill and other CFNM fetishists fantasize over.
Oddly enough, I agree that naked swim classes for boys in US High Schools was humiliating, at least for some of us. As a matter of fact, if my hypothesis relative to Selective Service is correct and accurate, that was one of the purposes behind the practice.
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Kingsport, TN

#88 Oct 3, 2012
SLC wrote:
Oddly enough, I agree that naked swim classes for boys in US High Schools was humiliating, at least for some of us. As a matter of fact, if my hypothesis relative to Selective Service is correct and accurate, that was one of the purposes behind the practice.
Why would males being nude around other males be humiliating??

This is how I know you're a CFNM fetishist. You twist things around so that males feel humiliated to be nude with their own gender.

Yet you think clothed females forced on nude males is NORMAL.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#89 Oct 3, 2012
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Why would males being nude around other males be humiliating??
This is how I know you're a CFNM fetishist. You twist things around so that males feel humiliated to be nude with their own gender.
Yet you think clothed females forced on nude males is NORMAL.
Well, some boys at the time were bashful and modest (such notions seem to be much more prevalent today then they were 50 years ago), which may come as a surprise to Mr. Censored. Actually, they generally got over it after the 2nd or 3rd session. I believe I stated earlier on that getting boys used to being naked in front of other boys was the whole idea behind the practice in preparation for military service. I have a flash for Mr. Censored. The humiliation that draftees underwent in basic training makes any humiliation of being seen nude by girls pretty small beer indeed.

However, it appears that Mr. Censored has accepted that boys swam nude in high school 50 years ago. The issue of whether CFNM occurred is totally irrelevant to that fact. My suspicion is that it occurred very infrequently and quite possibly not at all at most high schools. The stories of female life guards, female gym/swim teachers, coed swimming with naked boys and swim suited girls or naked swimming competitions in front of mixed audiences seem to be fictitious to me. I have seen no evidence that such events took place, and if they did, I would expect that the authorities put a stop to them in short order.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#90 Oct 3, 2012
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Why would males being nude around other males be humiliating??
This is how I know you're a CFNM fetishist. You twist things around so that males feel humiliated to be nude with their own gender.
Yet you think clothed females forced on nude males is NORMAL.
And by the way, I don't think that clothed females forced on nude males is in any way, shape, form, or regard "normal". Is Mr. Censored claiming that girls were forced to observe naked boys? That's preposterous. Obviously, if they got the opportunity, they would engage in observation. AFAIK, such opportunities were few and far between.
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Kingsport, TN

#91 Oct 3, 2012
SLC wrote:
Obviously, if they got the opportunity, they would engage in observation. AFAIK, such opportunities were few and far between.
More proof of his CFNM fetish.
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Kingsport, TN

#92 Oct 3, 2012
SLC wrote:
The humiliation that draftees underwent in basic training makes any humiliation of being seen nude by girls pretty small beer indeed.
Diminishing CFNM humiliation as harmless. More proof of his CFNM fetish.
MaltaMon

Greenwood, DE

#93 Oct 3, 2012
SLC wrote:
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There are newspaper accounts from Duluth, MN., Sheboygan, WI., and Houston TX. whkich have been posted on the Internet which talk about the practice being ended. I don't know when or where Mr. MaltaMon went to high school but boys swam naked during the 1950s at Los Angeles High School and, if the newspaper articles are to be believed, in Duluth, Sheboygan, and Houston at the least. And, when the practice ended due to the successful law suit in LA, my former high school went to coed swim classes with both sexes wearing swim suits. There are also what appear to be credible claims that some high schools in Chicago, Detroit, New York City, and Rochester, NY. also had naked boys swimming classes.
Apparently, if first hand accounts are to be credited, the practice was also not unknown in Catholic Parochial schools (that happened to have swimming pools), which, back in the 1950s, were invariably single sex.
Well,as my last post indicates, I attended high school in the 1970s. Pedo Bob posted photos of nude swim classes and swim meets (with clothed girls and women present) back when he was claiming to write from Malta (which he lately, and dishonestly, has disavowed), but those photos are clearly not real. I cannot tell you that what you claim about your own school in the 1950s isn't true: I wasn't there. Let's just say that I remain skeptical about it, which may not be fair to you, but I hasten to add that I'm certain about nude swimming in US public schools in the 1970s. It simply didn't occur.

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