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Malta Mon

Philadelphia, PA

#395 Nov 30, 2012
Phil wrote:
"Censored never leaves his porch in backwoods Tennessee that is why he is always sitting their naked with his MI6 assault rifle and bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken looking out for males who have still got their swimming trunks on"
Now that is funny image.
Sorry, Censored.
That is pretty much how Hunter S. Thompson lived. And he was a brilliant contemporary observer of American politics, culture, and society.
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Kingsport, TN

#398 Nov 30, 2012
DJW wrote:
However nude swimming did happen in UK private schools for males at least up to the 1980s in Harrow and a lot of private prep schools which take kids from 5-11, most were boys only but some involved pre-pubescent boys swimming naked in front of clothed girls.
More CFNM fiction by the now prolific CFNM fetishist, DJW.
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Kingsport, TN

#399 Nov 30, 2012
DJW wrote:
Some state schools such as St Martha's in London about 1973 had a rule if a boy forgot his gym kit he had to do gymnastics completely bare whereas girls could keep their knickers on.
More CFNM fiction by the now prolific CFNM fetishist, DJW.
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Kingsport, TN

#400 Nov 30, 2012
DJW wrote:
I've also shown Maltamon a facebook thread on the Welsh Showers topic where a particular pE teacher before the private school went co-educational in the late 1960's held nude swimming lessons for boys who forgot their trunks.
Manchester Grammar school part of the state system, then had nude male swimming up to 1973.
More CFNM fiction by the now prolific CFNM fetishist, DJW.
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Kingsport, TN

#401 Nov 30, 2012
DJW wrote:
Even liberal progressive private schools such as Summerhill in East Anglia which promoted "democracy" for pupils and the ultra liberal Bedales school in my home county of Hampshire allowed optional co-education swimming at least until about 1990.
Not only is this shown on the internet I remember an expose from the New of the World around 1990 declaring it a "scandal" and showing a picture of the outdoor pool with some of the pupils swimming nude and others with suits.
More CFNM fiction by the now prolific CFNM fetishist, DJW.
Phil

Dunfermline, UK

#402 Dec 1, 2012
Censored By T-O-P-I-X-com wrote:
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More CFNM fiction by the now prolific CFNM fetishist, DJW.
I've heard of Summerhill and it's ethos, if that is the word. There was a documentary about it years ago and both male and female students swam nude in the outdoor pool.
Sorry, Censored but this one is fact.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#403 Dec 1, 2012
Here's a blog post by a Swedish commentator currently living in Great Britain. I'm sure that many of the commentors here will agree with Mr. Petterson.

http://www.larsgpetersson.com/military-abuse/...
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Kingsport, TN

#404 Dec 1, 2012
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
I've heard of Summerhill and it's ethos, if that is the word. There was a documentary about it years ago and both male and female students swam nude in the outdoor pool.
Sorry, Censored but this one is fact.
Phil, you and DJW wouldn't know "fact" if it bit you in your fetishist asses.

I said it's CFNM fiction, because NOWHERE in any school were boys forced to swim nude WITH CLOTHED GIRLS. Provide proof or shut your mouth. And I don't mean some article written by another CFNM historian who wishes it were true. I mean photographic evidence.

You can't do it because NONE of you CFNM fetishists could provide reliable evidence in the LONG previous "nude swimming" threads on topix and other boards. So give it up, Phil. Your side lost the battle a long time ago trying to prove CFNM happened in schools when it did not.
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Kingsport, TN

#405 Dec 1, 2012
SLC wrote:
Here's a blog post by a Swedish commentator currently living in Great Britain. I'm sure that many of the commentors here will agree with Mr. Petterson.
http://www.larsgpetersson.com/military-abuse/...
More CFNM porn and CFNM fiction stories by "SLC" an admitted CFNM fetishist who along with "FortySomething" only rears his head here when CFNM is a frequent topic, their shared fetish resurrected by DJW and Phil the Pill.
Phil

Dunfermline, UK

#406 Dec 1, 2012
Censored By T-O-P-I-X-com wrote:
<quoted text>
Phil, you and DJW wouldn't know "fact" if it bit you in your fetishist asses.
I said it's CFNM fiction, because NOWHERE in any school were boys forced to swim nude WITH CLOTHED GIRLS. Provide proof or shut your mouth. And I don't mean some article written by another CFNM historian who wishes it were true. I mean photographic evidence.
You can't do it because NONE of you CFNM fetishists could provide reliable evidence in the LONG previous "nude swimming" threads on topix and other boards. So give it up, Phil. Your side lost the battle a long time ago trying to prove CFNM happened in schools when it did not.
You really are dumb.
Where in my post did I say boys were forced to swim nude alongside clothed girls?
They all had a choice.
The school was famous for it's relaxed attitude even extending to attendance at lessons.
You either did or you didn't.
Look it up instead of making your usual stupid comments.
DJW

Colchester, UK

#407 Dec 1, 2012
Stay in your trailer park Censored!

No one is talking about CFNM fanatasy.

I've talked about "progressive" private schools like Bedales, Summerhill or Dartington Hall where nude swimming was co-educational but depending on the period of time was either compulsory or optional.

I've also referred to "traditional" private schools ie Harrow and "traditional" grammar schools ie Manchester Grammar School for boys where the school was single sex and the nudity rule was mandatory for swimming.

Some threads do mention experiences where boys were naked in front of suited girls these were most likely co-educational "prep" schools these in the UK are private schools where parents send their Junior 5-11 year old kids okay!
DJW

Colchester, UK

#408 Dec 1, 2012
Compulsory Nude Swimming at School
August 2 2008 at 8:35 AM

I've mentioned this subject before and have been asked for further details.

A male friend of mine (well-known for presenting factual TV programs) assures me that nude swimming was a compulsory part of his education at the famous Manchester Grammar School.

If i remember correctly, the practice persisted up the 1970s then ceased when the swimming pool building was rebuilt in a position where passers-by could see the pool (and the boys) through the windows.

No girls or women were ever involved.


Re: Compulsory Nude Swimming at School September 25 2008, 7:47 PM

A college friend of mind told me that at his (all male) school, nude swimming was the norm. He also said that the gym teacher used to punish boys for misbehaviour in the pool by putting them acros his knee and whacking them with a flip flop.

In the novel "The Rotters Club" a boy is punished for forgetting his kit by being made to swim naked. The writer mentions that he's heard of school where nude swimming is the norm, but that having to be naked while your friends are in swimming trunks is very embarassing. There's also a nude swmimming scene in the film "Catholic Boys".

And, of course, one of the hippy progressive schools (Sommerhill?) practiced mixed nude swimming.

I agree that allowing a female teacher or pupil at a mixed school to witness the boys swimming naked is about as likely as an invasion of flying pigs. Mixed schools are incredibly prudish; a pupil would get whacked or suspended for being within ten yards of the opposite sexes changing rooms.

Nude swimming at my school September 28 2008, 7:38 PM

I went to a public school which had a prep school attached. In the 1960s, all boys swam nude, but by the 1970s, the public school boys were allowed to wear trunks but the prep school boys still swam nude under the control of one of the school's two known pervy teachers.

Scott


will just add in the information I know from the schools I attended

Prep school 1968-72, we swam in the newly built municipal pool so wore trunks
Public school 1973-75, we swam in the school's hardly heated indoor pool in trunks but 10 years earlier swimming had been nude. The associated prep school still swam nude in the same pool and there were reports of "hot day" swimming in lieu of PE also being nude for the younger public school boys
My other schools I never went swimming but I assume it was clothed

Scotty

and I thought that my school was unique!

In Cambridge, England in the early 60's, I learnt to swim nude.
It was a private school, and the preparatory (Junior) school to a well
known college - boys only. The reason we were told that costumes were
not to be used was to 1) remove the excuse of not being able to swim
because "I've forgotton my costume, Sir" and 2) The tatty sight of 100
costumes drying on the line and then being left behind when we went
home.

I was at the school, 1963 to 66 aged 6-9 and thought nothing of it.
Cossies were only required in a swimming gala against another school.
Although I was not in the swimming team, I remember attending the events
and that some boys still swan naked. I did not go to high school in the
U.K. so cannot say what happened in the senior school. At my school in
South Africa, it was clothing all the way in that sexually repressed
land of the late 60s and early 70s.

I have often thought that learning to swim nude is one of the reasons
that I realised nudity was for me. I am glad to say that I nude as I
sit at my PC, eventhough the UK summer weather is not that great (it was
raining a short while ago :(
DJW

Colchester, UK

#409 Dec 1, 2012
After chatting with other nudists, I am finding an experience I had in
school was/is not widespread: nude swimming classes. During my junior and
senior high school years in Dearborn, Michigan, in the late 1960 s and
early 1970 s, our all male gym classes had swimming one week per month in
our indoor pools. Except for the life saving course, the boys swam nude.
Bathing suits were not an option until after the life saving course, but
most of us continued to swim nude. The girls classes were not nude, but
required tank suits. The only thing I have read about this tradition was
in a novel, making a reference to northern European immigrants bringing
this practice to the mid-west.
Richard

No doubt all these contributors are lying Censored including journalist Miriam Gross and Historian Michael Woods Ex-Manchester Grammar who all endured forced nude swimming in the UK school.
Phil

Dunfermline, UK

#410 Dec 1, 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/07/education/s...
"It had last been featured in London tabloids in 1992, when a television documentary showed teachers and pupils swimming naked together"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/dec/01/ofst...
"....and, weather permitting, staff and students can sunbathe in the nude"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerhill_Schoo...
"School meetings are held three times a week, where pupils and staff alike have an equal voice in the decisions that affect their day-to-day lives, discussing issues and creating or changing school laws. The rules agreed at these meetings are wide ranging - from agreeing on acceptable bed times to making nudity allowed around the pool"
Times have changed and I imagine that rule has long been scapped.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#411 Dec 1, 2012
Censored By T-O-P-I-X-com wrote:
<quoted text>
More CFNM porn and CFNM fiction stories by "SLC" an admitted CFNM fetishist who along with "FortySomething" only rears his head here when CFNM is a frequent topic, their shared fetish resurrected by DJW and Phil the Pill.
Mr. Censored is a lying piece of filth. At no time did I claim that boys in school swam naked in front of girls, clothed or otherwise in American high schools. They did not in my high school. Whether they did in other high schools, I can't comment on as I wasn't there. And the two incidents I mentioned in which girls inadvertently entered the ramp from the girls locker room leading to the pool area and quickly beat a hasty retreat hardly constitute a CFNM situation, except in the fevered diseased mind of Mr. Censored.
Phil

London, UK

#412 Dec 1, 2012
"...except in the fevered diseased mind of Mr. Censored"

So true.
He sees CFNM in everything because he is obsessed.
MaltaMon

Emmaus, PA

#413 Dec 1, 2012
All-male swimming is not the issue. And you guys just believe the statements or suggestions of nude swim meets open to the public? If you have searched extensively on line--and it would appear that most of you have--you will have discovered that there are more web sites than one can count devoted to the nude-male/clothed female (or clothed male adult for those fetishists who are gay) "experience". Most of these contain material that is entirely anecdotal or, indeed, lifted right from published fiction and film (note how one of DJ's Dearborn nudists refers openly to the text of a novel as hard "evidence" of this phenomenon). There are hundreds of sites that are comprised of CFNM (or CMNM)stories that are entirely made up out of whole cloth (no pun intended). And many of these so-called articles and other sources lift their allegedly personal experiences directly from thise texts. In short, any study of these web sites, even a cursory one, will reveal to "anyone with a brain cell" (I footnote Phil for that expression) that this phenomenon is largely sexual fetishism. Accounts are created from the imagination of the writer to apoeal directly to the imaginations of those who are similarly obsessed. Many seek contributions of this smut (which is what it is--literature intended to facilitate auto-erotic orgasm) by contributing themselves to these sites under the guise of seeking, often with apparent obsessiveness, to right the wrongs in society thar these bits of invented smut allegedly reveal. But all these do-gooders want is to read more about it so they can get off to yet another arrangement of the same sexual refrain. Witness DJW.
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Kingsport, TN

#414 Dec 1, 2012
SLC wrote:
Mr. Censored is a lying piece of filth. At no time did I claim that boys in school swam naked in front of girls
Above you see another denial by SLC of his promotion of his CFNM fetish. When in FACT I was correct. Earlier today on this very page, SLC posted a LINK to a "blog" which is loaded with CFNM porn images and videos:
SLC wrote:
Here's a blog post by a Swedish commentator currently living in Great Britain. I'm sure that many of the commentors here will agree with Mr. Petterson.
http://www.larsgpetersson.com/military-abuse/...
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Kingsport, TN

#415 Dec 1, 2012
MaltaMon wrote:
All-male swimming is not the issue. And you guys just believe the statements or suggestions of nude swim meets open to the public? If you have searched extensively on line--and it would appear that most of you have--you will have discovered that there are more web sites than one can count devoted to the nude-male/clothed female (or clothed male adult for those fetishists who are gay) "experience". Most of these contain material that is entirely anecdotal or, indeed, lifted right from published fiction and film (note how one of DJ's Dearborn nudists refers openly to the text of a novel as hard "evidence" of this phenomenon). There are hundreds of sites that are comprised of CFNM (or CMNM)stories that are entirely made up out of whole cloth (no pun intended). And many of these so-called articles and other sources lift their allegedly personal experiences directly from thise texts. In short, any study of these web sites, even a cursory one, will reveal to "anyone with a brain cell" (I footnote Phil for that expression) that this phenomenon is largely sexual fetishism. Accounts are created from the imagination of the writer to apoeal directly to the imaginations of those who are similarly obsessed. Many seek contributions of this smut (which is what it is--literature intended to facilitate auto-erotic orgasm) by contributing themselves to these sites under the guise of seeking, often with apparent obsessiveness, to right the wrongs in society thar these bits of invented smut allegedly reveal. But all these do-gooders want is to read more about it so they can get off to yet another arrangement of the same sexual refrain. Witness DJW.
MaltaMon, I realized what was going on when DJW started posting CFNM a few days ago, then SLC and FortySomething reappeared after months. They're trying to start up the old "nude swimming in school" threads which were on topix a few years ago before it was deleted. In all that time, no one ever produced evidence that mixed gender swimming or CFNM physical exams ever occurred in school. It is a sexual fetish.
MaltaMon

Bethlehem, PA

#416 Dec 1, 2012
Censored By T-O-P-I-X-com wrote:
<quoted text>
Above you see another denial by SLC of his promotion of his CFNM fetish. When in FACT I was correct. Earlier today on this very page, SLC posted a LINK to a "blog" which is loaded with CFNM porn images and videos:
<quoted text>
You gotta love the way the blogger posts all those photos of nude young men and boys... And then expesses outrage over each one. This is an example of what I meant in my last post: fetishism portrayed as self-righteous conscientiousness. If the blogger, and SLC, were sincere, why display all the smooth bare boy asses, all the hard and flaccid cocks, all the fully-clothed authoritarian figures?

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