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#1 Mar 16, 2011
Yes I know some guys are shy about being nude in the locker rooms and using showers at schools so were you ever the one that hazed boys there or were you on the receiving end.

What got your goat the most, was it because you were not circumcised or that you were circumcised. Had no pubes there and they did, got called names like baby boys wiener is here or was it so bad you could not shower with other boys anymore.
Katie

UK

#2 Mar 16, 2011
To answermenow hello sorry i can only give you a girls perpective on this but here goes.Girls hate being naked with other non related girls from about eleven years old.Us girls never wash between our legs in a communial shower.Puberty is when us girls really start to kick off about communial nudity our bodies become more privet after all what girl wants to come on in front of her class mates in a communial shower.This is really embarressing for a girl.Then you have the pubic hair factor no young girl wants anybody to see her pubic hair not even her own mother.Pubic hair to us girls is a very privat thing.Then there is the shaving factor us girls not not want anybody to know that she shaves her pubic hair again not even another girl.Puberty is more secretive with us girls than it is with boys.Also with us girls there is breast size this is the same with us girls as penis size is with boys.Also about communial showers with girls is periods we do not want other girls to know when we are on.What girl wants to take a shower with a tampon string on show dangling from between her legs.Or worse a sanitary towel on show in her knickers.The greatest resistance to school showers comes from us girls and we tend to get our own way.Sorry i can only give you a girls perspective on these things i hope you do not mind,Katie.
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#3 Mar 16, 2011
answermenow wrote:
Yes I know some guys are shy about being nude in the locker rooms and using showers at schools so were you ever the one that hazed boys there or were you on the receiving end.
What got your goat the most, was it because you were not circumcised or that you were circumcised. Had no pubes there and they did, got called names like baby boys wiener is here or was it so bad you could not shower with other boys anymore.
Only someone gay would even suggest some of this tripe. No male would even consider some of the things you suggest, we just want privacy you idiot!!!!!

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#4 Mar 17, 2011
CaDad wrote:
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Only someone gay would even suggest some of this tripe. No male would even consider some of the things you suggest, we just want privacy you idiot!!!!!
Hey there drongo, do you whack your mouth or what. it seems that you down grade folks here that have a genuine answer to other people's problems, but you take the cake.

You must have had a dreadful life as a kid, sounds like you were a bully as boy {if in fact you are male} don't know about your doctorate but I have been to a few E.R's due to my dads awful parkinson's and heart problems. Female nurses were placing catheters down his penis as his bladder died, It was so hard to see him get this done but worse to see a female do this to a old man and have no compassion for his dignity.

I don't care if you work in the field of medicine or pretend to work in one as I have seen heaps of males and females dumped on toilets at nursing homes with doors opened for all to see.

yes my folks are in one so I see it daily, your comments are nothing but degrading nonsense. You do this for a reason, I bet you get off seeing how others talk about you.

Yes cadad, you have a opinion but you should use it to help folks and not piss people off.

You are a homophobic as you have answered a few questions that has no meaning about being gay, you said my questions about boys looking at other boys was a gay question, I bet you looked when you showered with other boys and saw things that turned you off or on, as I was not there I can't really say how you took it when other boys saw you naked. Was it gay to you when a boy saw your I presume circumcised penis.

Most boys you showered with could have all been circumcised and yes it can be hard for an uncircumcised boy to deal with his foreskin when surrounded by cut boys and you don't know how they felt when told not to play with their penis when they were actually cleaning it.

Boys can be drongos when it comes to not being the same down there and yes it can work in reverse when a cut guy is surrounded by uncut boys but that is a minority.

So don't throw the baby out with the bath water as it might hit you in the face. I have a right to ask questions and you have the right to answer but don't go bulling folks unless you expect to be on the receiving end as well.

P.S you need to use spell check as I have read quite a few of your comments and wow the spelling mistakes is one thing you need to fix up first before beheading every one here.

That's my two cents worth.

go for it cadad.
Katie

UK

#5 Mar 17, 2011
To answermenow hello there is nothing gay about your thread.What is gay about wanting to know how other boys feel about communial nudity nothing.Iam sorry that i can only give a female point of view on how girls/women feel about communial nudity.Having said that if it was not for your thread readers both male and female would not get to know the female point of view.Iam this forums most proliffic female poster sadly to say i wish we had more to put the female point of view across.Until then this forum only has my view point so i hope you do not mind.Your questions are valid and should be respected as such there is nothing wrong with that.Your other thread growing up uncut in a cut country was just as valid even though i could only give you a British perspective of it i still answered your question and why not.We are human beings we need to share our ideas and our opinions with each other this is called communication.Before the inter net we could only do this with our friends and family now we can do it around the world to me this is a good thing.With the inter net two strangers that have never met each other and will never meet each other can get an insite into each other this is called learning from each other and another word for learning is education.Katie is my real name by the way i use no other name or monika.
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#6 Mar 17, 2011
answermenow wrote:
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Hey there drongo, do you whack your mouth or what. it seems that you down grade folks here that have a genuine answer to other people's problems, but you take the cake.
You must have had a dreadful life as a kid, sounds like you were a bully as boy {if in fact you are male} don't know about your doctorate but I have been to a few E.R's due to my dads awful parkinson's and heart problems. Female nurses were placing catheters down his penis as his bladder died, It was so hard to see him get this done but worse to see a female do this to a old man and have no compassion for his dignity.
I don't care if you work in the field of medicine or pretend to work in one as I have seen heaps of males and females dumped on toilets at nursing homes with doors opened for all to see.
yes my folks are in one so I see it daily, your comments are nothing but degrading nonsense. You do this for a reason, I bet you get off seeing how others talk about you.
Yes cadad, you have a opinion but you should use it to help folks and not piss people off.
You are a homophobic as you have answered a few questions that has no meaning about being gay, you said my questions about boys looking at other boys was a gay question, I bet you looked when you showered with other boys and saw things that turned you off or on, as I was not there I can't really say how you took it when other boys saw you naked. Was it gay to you when a boy saw your I presume circumcised penis.
Most boys you showered with could have all been circumcised and yes it can be hard for an uncircumcised boy to deal with his foreskin when surrounded by cut boys and you don't know how they felt when told not to play with their penis when they were actually cleaning it.
Boys can be drongos when it comes to not being the same down there and yes it can work in reverse when a cut guy is surrounded by uncut boys but that is a minority.
So don't throw the baby out with the bath water as it might hit you in the face. I have a right to ask questions and you have the right to answer but don't go bulling folks unless you expect to be on the receiving end as well.
P.S you need to use spell check as I have read quite a few of your comments and wow the spelling mistakes is one thing you need to fix up first before beheading every one here.
That's my two cents worth.
go for it cadad.
Because I expose someone for what he is, what a crock, no male is embarrassed if he is cut or not-men don't give a dam about that-so he is aether gay or a woman masquerading as a male-period. If you sir are one of these so called little boys who thinks about such things, you obviously have had something happen in your childhood to affect you-Dam sorry that happened to you.
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#7 Mar 17, 2011
Katie wrote:
To answermenow hello there is nothing gay about your thread.What is gay about wanting to know how other boys feel about communial nudity nothing.Iam sorry that i can only give a female point of view on how girls/women feel about communial nudity.Having said that if it was not for your thread readers both male and female would not get to know the female point of view.Iam this forums most proliffic female poster sadly to say i wish we had more to put the female point of view across.Until then this forum only has my view point so i hope you do not mind.Your questions are valid and should be respected as such there is nothing wrong with that.Your other thread growing up uncut in a cut country was just as valid even though i could only give you a British perspective of it i still answered your question and why not.We are human beings we need to share our ideas and our opinions with each other this is called communication.Before the inter net we could only do this with our friends and family now we can do it around the world to me this is a good thing.With the inter net two strangers that have never met each other and will never meet each other can get an insite into each other this is called learning from each other and another word for learning is education.Katie is my real name by the way i use no other name or monika.
Nonsense Katy, he specifically asked a really really stupid question. I will say this, all children have a sense of privacy, it is quite normal and I do not understand why anyone in authority would even think about abrogating that, what is so dam wrong with a child having Private issues? I don't get it. Because children are not given the proper amount of respect , that's why. I have always maintained, kids are nothing more then big people trapped in small bodies. They are way more smarter and iontelligent then some people give them credit for.
Katie

UK

#8 Mar 17, 2011
hTo CaDad hello I agree with you that children do have a sense of privacy and modesty.What answermenow is talking about is communial nudity of males perhaps 11-13 most likely in a forced naked situation ie school showers.Unless forced or coerced children will never take their clothes off outside of the home the same goes for teenagers.There is nothing wrong with a child having privat issues children are privat anyway.CaDad all answermenow wants to know is how people felt about school nudity most probably enforced there is nothing wrong or gay about wanting to know peoples feelings.Sorry to say CaDad boys/men do care about being circumcised there has been posters on other threads that have said that they were made fun of because they were circumcised.In this country male circumcision is rare so boys and men do care about this issue.The biggest male cosmetic surgery carried out in this country on men is foreskin restoration.CaDad when i was at school a Jewish mother sent her son to the school i attended instead of King Davids the reason well he was not circumcised and he would have been made fun of.So boys and men do care about circumcision so answermenow does have a valid point that is why i told him about how us girls feel about socalled enforced nudity.
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#9 Mar 17, 2011
Katie wrote:
hTo CaDad hello I agree with you that children do have a sense of privacy and modesty.What answermenow is talking about is communial nudity of males perhaps 11-13 most likely in a forced naked situation ie school showers.Unless forced or coerced children will never take their clothes off outside of the home the same goes for teenagers.There is nothing wrong with a child having privat issues children are privat anyway.CaDad all answermenow wants to know is how people felt about school nudity most probably enforced there is nothing wrong or gay about wanting to know peoples feelings.Sorry to say CaDad boys/men do care about being circumcised there has been posters on other threads that have said that they were made fun of because they were circumcised.In this country male circumcision is rare so boys and men do care about this issue.The biggest male cosmetic surgery carried out in this country on men is foreskin restoration.CaDad when i was at school a Jewish mother sent her son to the school i attended instead of King Davids the reason well he was not circumcised and he would have been made fun of.So boys and men do care about circumcision so answermenow does have a valid point that is why i told him about how us girls feel about socalled enforced nudity.
Perhaps it is an across the pond issue-it is quite common here. If someone really was looking that hard , well you can imagine what would happen lol.

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#10 Mar 17, 2011
CaDad wrote:
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Perhaps it is an across the pond issue-it is quite common here. If someone really was looking that hard , well you can imagine what would happen lol.
cadad; you need to understand one thing and read my quote: boys have committed suicide due to being bullied over one thing or another and one of those reasons is that some of these boys was picked on due to not being circumcised and laughed at when they saw him nude and these boys would make his life hell, you don't know how young boys can get so depressed hearing that he is not like the other boys and he has a penis that looks like an elephants trunk.

So it can be a real life problem and its not a laughable thing, so again I asked if this is a issue for boys been seen naked and having to deal with mean and downright rude boys that think they have the right to bully other boys because they have a penis not like theirs.

Today is international anti bulling day, hope you now understand why I asked this question.
Katie

UK

#11 Mar 17, 2011
answermenow wrote:
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cadad; you need to understand one thing and read my quote: boys have committed suicide due to being bullied over one thing or another and one of those reasons is that some of these boys was picked on due to not being circumcised and laughed at when they saw him nude and these boys would make his life hell, you don't know how young boys can get so depressed hearing that he is not like the other boys and he has a penis that looks like an elephants trunk.
So it can be a real life problem and its not a laughable thing, so again I asked if this is a issue for boys been seen naked and having to deal with mean and downright rude boys that think they have the right to bully other boys because they have a penis not like theirs.
Today is international anti bulling day, hope you now understand why I asked this question.
To answermenow hello well said your thread is a real issue being bullied is a real issue childrens feelings are a real issue is thread is a real thread.I care about how girls and boys feel about being naked in school showers and i am this forums most anti communial school shower advocate.Most school bullying in high school in boys is down to school showers.Answermenow you are correct there has been suicides in this country because of bullying.If you understand peoples feelings you will understand people.
Katie

UK

#12 Mar 20, 2011
DOWN WITH COMMUNIAL SCHOOL SHOWERS.
Katie

UK

#13 Mar 21, 2011
answermenow wrote:
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cadad; you need to understand one thing and read my quote: boys have committed suicide due to being bullied over one thing or another and one of those reasons is that some of these boys was picked on due to not being circumcised and laughed at when they saw him nude and these boys would make his life hell, you don't know how young boys can get so depressed hearing that he is not like the other boys and he has a penis that looks like an elephants trunk.
So it can be a real life problem and its not a laughable thing, so again I asked if this is a issue for boys been seen naked and having to deal with mean and downright rude boys that think they have the right to bully other boys because they have a penis not like theirs.
Today is international anti bulling day, hope you now understand why I asked this question.
To Answermenow hello CaDad causes more subjects to go off topic than anybody else him and his red neck followers and supporters.Answermenow you bring up real issues and people have answered them.Apart from ranting and raving what real issues as CaDad brought up and also what real feelings has CaDad shown against certaine issues on this forum.NON apart from ranting and raving and p1221ng people off and calling people apart from that he has nothing to say.
Phil B

Buda, Hungary

#14 Mar 30, 2011
I went to an all boys grammar school in the 60s. I remember after our first p. e. lesson we were mostly a little apprehensive about showering naked together. However, after the first couple of times nobody took any notice of it any more.
Showers for us were an opportunity to rinse the sweat and dirt off our bodies - not a social occasion. We were supervised most of the time and I do not recall any teasing, let alone downright bullying. We had one Jewish lad in the class but I don't remember any comments about him being circumsized.
Bullying can occur for many reasons, often because the "victim" is different. However, attempting to hide differences is not the answer to bullying. A good school should make it clear that bullying is not acceptable and will not be tolerated under any circumstances. This must be backed up with appropriate action when necessary though the options for punishment are severely limited these days. The only common reason for teasing that I can remember was boys wearing vests and this was not excessive and I don't think the boys concerned took it to heart.
Katie

UK

#15 Mar 30, 2011
Phil B wrote:
I went to an all boys grammar school in the 60s. I remember after our first p. e. lesson we were mostly a little apprehensive about showering naked together. However, after the first couple of times nobody took any notice of it any more.
Showers for us were an opportunity to rinse the sweat and dirt off our bodies - not a social occasion. We were supervised most of the time and I do not recall any teasing, let alone downright bullying. We had one Jewish lad in the class but I don't remember any comments about him being circumsized.
Bullying can occur for many reasons, often because the "victim" is different. However, attempting to hide differences is not the answer to bullying. A good school should make it clear that bullying is not acceptable and will not be tolerated under any circumstances. This must be backed up with appropriate action when necessary though the options for punishment are severely limited these days. The only common reason for teasing that I can remember was boys wearing vests and this was not excessive and I don't think the boys concerned took it to heart.
To Phil B hello i think name calling and teasing has more to do with post puberty than pre puberty but sadly this sort of thing happens.
Katie

UK

#17 Mar 31, 2011
Bob wrote:
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I recall the same thing in the showers when I was in high school. There was the obvious concern about how big your willie was, but classmates who were uncircumcised were teased, and those with no pubic hair were teased, and one boy with lots of pubic hair was called 'bushy', much to his annoyance.
Not surprised that CaDad creature gave you grief, but he's not capable of much else. And you're right, he does need spell check.
To Bob hello you are correct in your statement this is a valid reason against school showers they are the main source of school bullying.
George Howell

Worcester, UK

#18 Mar 31, 2011
Katie wrote:
To answermenow hello sorry i can only give you a girls perpective on this but here goes.Girls hate being naked with other non related girls from about eleven years old.Us girls never wash between our legs in a communial shower.Puberty is when us girls really start to kick off about communial nudity our bodies become more privet after all what girl wants to come on in front of her class mates in a communial shower.This is really embarressing for a girl.Then you have the pubic hair factor no young girl wants anybody to see her pubic hair not even her own mother.Pubic hair to us girls is a very privat thing.Then there is the shaving factor us girls not not want anybody to know that she shaves her pubic hair again not even another girl.Puberty is more secretive with us girls than it is with boys.Also with us girls there is breast size this is the same with us girls as penis size is with boys.Also about communial showers with girls is periods we do not want other girls to know when we are on.What girl wants to take a shower with a tampon string on show dangling from between her legs.Or worse a sanitary towel on show in her knickers.The greatest resistance to school showers comes from us girls and we tend to get our own way.Sorry i can only give you a girls perspective on these things i hope you do not mind,Katie.
All of that is no doubt the case for the vast majority of females. Those are the reasons why women are much more modest among each other then men generally are, and why there is more concession to modesty in womens' facilities than in mens'. Although the younger generation of males are more precious about it all, so it seems, most of us would nevertheless say fair enough.

What is does not justify (and to be fair I don't think it is intended to) is our old friend the double standards. Because men are for various reasons generally less concerned about "showing off what they have" among their own gender, it does not excuse their privacy being invaded by the opposite sex, which is a different matter entirely.

There are numerous website forums around with people talking about this general topic. For example "How old should children be to be allowed in the opposite sex changing room ?". Invariably examples are given of women invading the privacy of mens' changing rooms in order to 'protect' their young male offspring, who are too old to be allowed in the female changing rooms. Sometimes such offspring are described as being as old as 11, yet still apparently cannot be left unprotected among grown men.

The women who try to justify this B/S on such forums spout garbage demonstrating a depressing level of ignorance, stupidity, and paranioa. Sometimes it comes down to the fact that they think young boys could realistically be assaulted by the odd aggressive paedophile among a random group of normal men in a pool changing room. Even more ludicrous perhaps is that some can't bear the though that their young sons might have to look at grown men naked, or that the grown men could look at them.

Equally depressing is the passive attitude of the men complain on such forums about being confronted with clothed women in their own changing room - I have yet to see one who purports to have actually formally complained about it.

The third depressing thing is the gym/pool managements who tacitly allow it. While such ignorance, stupidity, and spinelessness continues, no wonder that the double standards do too.
coyot e

Bridgewater, Canada

#19 Mar 31, 2011
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>To Bob hello you are correct in your statement this is a valid reason against school showers they are the main source of school bullying.
Are you serious ? Are you speaking about boys or girls ? I showered after sports during school and university and cannot recall any incidents to which you refer. Maybe in the female showers but I never noticed it on the few occasions I .....
Katie

UK

#20 Mar 31, 2011
George Howell wrote:
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All of that is no doubt the case for the vast majority of females. Those are the reasons why women are much more modest among each other then men generally are, and why there is more concession to modesty in womens' facilities than in mens'. Although the younger generation of males are more precious about it all, so it seems, most of us would nevertheless say fair enough.
What is does not justify (and to be fair I don't think it is intended to) is our old friend the double standards. Because men are for various reasons generally less concerned about "showing off what they have" among their own gender, it does not excuse their privacy being invaded by the opposite sex, which is a different matter entirely.
There are numerous website forums around with people talking about this general topic. For example "How old should children be to be allowed in the opposite sex changing room ?". Invariably examples are given of women invading the privacy of mens' changing rooms in order to 'protect' their young male offspring, who are too old to be allowed in the female changing rooms. Sometimes such offspring are described as being as old as 11, yet still apparently cannot be left unprotected among grown men.
The women who try to justify this B/S on such forums spout garbage demonstrating a depressing level of ignorance, stupidity, and paranioa. Sometimes it comes down to the fact that they think young boys could realistically be assaulted by the odd aggressive paedophile among a random group of normal men in a pool changing room. Even more ludicrous perhaps is that some can't bear the though that their young sons might have to look at grown men naked, or that the grown men could look at them.
Equally depressing is the passive attitude of the men complain on such forums about being confronted with clothed women in their own changing room - I have yet to see one who purports to have actually formally complained about it.
The third depressing thing is the gym/pool managements who tacitly allow it. While such ignorance, stupidity, and spinelessness continues, no wonder that the double standards do too.
To George Howell hello a child of 11 is of secondary education age and should use a mens toilet young children should use their same sex toilets from the age of 6-7.You are right such women that think it is right to invade mens privacy show a high level of stupid ignorance.Well George i for one would have plenty to say to a woman if she brought her 11 year old son into a womans changing room/toilets.Why men have never made an official complaint about such behaviour my females taking older children public privat spaces is beyond me.
Katie

UK

#21 Mar 31, 2011
coyot e wrote:
<quoted text> Are you serious ? Are you speaking about boys or girls ? I showered after sports during school and university and cannot recall any incidents to which you refer. Maybe in the female showers but I never noticed it on the few occasions I .....
To Coyote hello iam being a bit tongue in cheek and iam half serious because these things have happened and still do.It is all down to a different generation in these matters.Katie xx

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