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Rush

Columbus, NE

#493 Mar 4, 2013
Largelanguage


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Grandpasmurf952 wrote:

The real shame is in the denial of the reality of sexual orientation being determined before birth that homosexual people have been insisting is so for centuries and science is slowly confirming to be so.
This denial is clung to by religions that depend on a consistent patriarchal hierarchical order to support their religion that conflicts with the reality of unconditional LOVE.
How many more suicides of innocent young children rejected by their parent's religions do we have to see before people wake up to the reality of this horrible situation?
How many children need to be bullied every day they go to school for how they were born?
Why don't we question the validity of religions that use the hate of minorities and the fear of eternal damnation to protect their dogma?

Largelanguage wrote:
Your use of the word patriarchy shows your bigotry. And I'm perfectly fine with gay kids being bullied to death.
Phil

UK

#496 Mar 4, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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You defend them!
Do I?
How and where?
Phil

London, UK

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Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
The real shame is in the denial of the reality of sexual orientation being determined before birth that homosexual people have been insisting is so for centuries and science is slowly confirming to be so.
This denial is clung to by religions that depend on a consistent patriarchal hierarchical order to support their religion that conflicts with the reality of unconditional LOVE.
How many more suicides of innocent young children rejected by their parent's religions do we have to see before people wake up to the reality of this horrible situation?
How many children need to be bullied every day they go to school for how they were born?
Why don't we question the validity of religions that use the hate of minorities and the fear of eternal damnation to protect their dogma?
Largelanguage wrote:
Your use of the word patriarchy shows your bigotry. And I'm perfectly fine with gay kids being bullied to death.
"And I'm perfectly fine with gay kids being bullied to death"

If you have a son (unlikely, as only grown up do such things) it must be a huge comfort to him to know that if he were to come out he will have your unconditional love and support!
There are always complete and utter knobs who are more concerned with what the neighbours might think and who are not fit to be parents.
Whit Warden

Seattle, WA

#500 Mar 15, 2013
coyote wrote:
Rick: my understanding from the blogs is many males feel it is humiliation they do not wish to experience and thus the concern is over the amount of males who will not seek medical attention for problems which may get very serious if not treated in infancy. It seems the "who cares" is more a macho statement than actually exists. Obviously the basic problem is modesty and since 95% of providers are female there are not many options. The female providers (nurses, aides etc.)can only assure patients they handle these situations all the time and that is true but the patient is not faced with environment all the time. Naturally; female patients have access to same gender care so the tangent can lead into being called a double standard.(?) The fact many males say they prefer female care is turning out to often be only a macho fraternity statement that does not hold much water when the situation arises. Thus, many jurisdictions are trying to attract more males into nursing but seems there is some flak from nursing orgs. which feel it is not necessary and threatens traditional female profession......
Coyote, I think you've summed things up REALLY well here!
In addition, while it's certainly understandable (and many times
necessary) to have ONE or even two women in the room while a man
shows his genitals, there are PLENTY of women that like to assemble
or show up with a whole CREW of women to witness the show. I
recall reading a post from a male E.M.T.(emergency medical
technician) who had to shave off a man's pubic hair before a
procedure was to be performed. FOUR women immediately showed up to
"supervise". Much to the patient's relief, the male E.M.T. told
them to leave because HE was taking care of it. It's PROBABLY
outcomes like this that cause many female nurses to resent the
presence of males. I also remember reading about a man who had to
leave his crotch exposed for a period of time who counted NINETEEN
different women who came into the room and looked at him. It's
extremely unlikely that ALL of these women had a valid reason to be
there besides "checking him out".
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#501 Mar 15, 2013
Whit Warden wrote:
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Coyote, I think you've summed things up REALLY well here!
In addition, while it's certainly understandable (and many times
necessary) to have ONE or even two women in the room while a man
shows his genitals, there are PLENTY of women that like to assemble
or show up with a whole CREW of women to witness the show. I
recall reading a post from a male E.M.T.(emergency medical
technician) who had to shave off a man's pubic hair before a
procedure was to be performed. FOUR women immediately showed up to
"supervise". Much to the patient's relief, the male E.M.T. told
them to leave because HE was taking care of it. It's PROBABLY
outcomes like this that cause many female nurses to resent the
presence of males. I also remember reading about a man who had to
leave his crotch exposed for a period of time who counted NINETEEN
different women who came into the room and looked at him. It's
extremely unlikely that ALL of these women had a valid reason to be
there besides "checking him out".
It's only wrong of them.
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#502 Mar 15, 2013
Whit Warden: thanx for your comments.I have a fleeting interest in the topic as result of exposure req'd for a treatment about 6 years ago- my modesty never trumped health care but I found the often seemingly lack of regard esp. by female caregivers at cna, lpn level to be to be disappointing. That has been my only experience as a patient but found it mirrored often in the Dr.'s blogs. A week ago when entering a clinic for an EKG the young lady tech told her possibly 20 year old ass't "have him strip from the waist up !". No prob.! Waiting for the "posties" I asked if there were any male assistants employed there and she said "oh no, we do not do that because we have females requiring the diagnosis you understand !" Okay- kid- thanks for the explanation ! I found it to be funny !
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#503 Mar 15, 2013
coyote wrote:
Whit Warden: thanx for your comments.I have a fleeting interest in the topic as result of exposure req'd for a treatment about 6 years ago- my modesty never trumped health care but I found the often seemingly lack of regard esp. by female caregivers at cna, lpn level to be to be disappointing. That has been my only experience as a patient but found it mirrored often in the Dr.'s blogs. A week ago when entering a clinic for an EKG the young lady tech told her possibly 20 year old ass't "have him strip from the waist up !". No prob.! Waiting for the "posties" I asked if there were any male assistants employed there and she said "oh no, we do not do that because we have females requiring the diagnosis you understand !" Okay- kid- thanks for the explanation ! I found it to be funny !
She had no right to do that.
MaltaMon

Millville, NJ

#504 Mar 15, 2013
When I was 19 I had to have my ass shaved for hip surgery after an injury from a college soccer game.. The female head nurse did it--shaved everything from my thighs up--with about seven or eight other females watching (I was face down, so I wasn't sure how many eventually were in the room.. it may have been more). Nothing important was going on, and there must have been far more critical patients to take care of in the university's medical center, yet all of those nurses had to watch... and nobody asked if it was all right with me. Never understood why that was permitted. Late that night, a male nurse appeared alone to "examine" the work that his boss had done. I let him, of course--didn't feel I had any choice--but I mentioned his visit, as well as that of all those female observers, later to the doctor--not as a complaint, but disguised as a comment on how thorough everyone had been. Don't know if anything happened later. Probably nothing. Indeed, I don't think it was all that uncommon--and surely not frowned upon--at the time (Fall 1975), especially with male patients.
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#505 Mar 15, 2013
MaltaMon wrote:
When I was 19 I had to have my ass shaved for hip surgery after an injury from a college soccer game.. The female head nurse did it--shaved everything from my thighs up--with about seven or eight other females watching (I was face down, so I wasn't sure how many eventually were in the room.. it may have been more). Nothing important was going on, and there must have been far more critical patients to take care of in the university's medical center, yet all of those nurses had to watch... and nobody asked if it was all right with me. Never understood why that was permitted. Late that night, a male nurse appeared alone to "examine" the work that his boss had done. I let him, of course--didn't feel I had any choice--but I mentioned his visit, as well as that of all those female observers, later to the doctor--not as a complaint, but disguised as a comment on how thorough everyone had been. Don't know if anything happened later. Probably nothing. Indeed, I don't think it was all that uncommon--and surely not frowned upon--at the time (Fall 1975), especially with male patients.
Those females should have been killed.
Phil

UK

#506 Mar 15, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Those females should have been killed.
Remember the characteristics of a sociopath?
Rage and anger, etc.
A quiet word in their ear would sufficr.
Phil

UK

#507 Mar 15, 2013
Suffice.
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#508 Mar 15, 2013
Phil wrote:
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Remember the characteristics of a sociopath?
Rage and anger, etc.
A quiet word in their ear would sufficr.
That is only one of the characterists, not all of them. And I have just anger, and just rage, against evil sociapaths!

You speak with anger and rage unjustified against MaltaMon.

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#509 Mar 15, 2013
MaltaMon wrote:
When I was 19 I had to have my ass shaved for hip surgery after an injury from a college soccer game.. The female head nurse did it--shaved everything from my thighs up--with about seven or eight other females watching (I was face down, so I wasn't sure how many eventually were in the room.. it may have been more). Nothing important was going on, and there must have been far more critical patients to take care of in the university's medical center, yet all of those nurses had to watch... and nobody asked if it was all right with me. Never understood why that was permitted. Late that night, a male nurse appeared alone to "examine" the work that his boss had done. I let him, of course--didn't feel I had any choice--but I mentioned his visit, as well as that of all those female observers, later to the doctor--not as a complaint, but disguised as a comment on how thorough everyone had been. Don't know if anything happened later. Probably nothing. Indeed, I don't think it was all that uncommon--and surely not frowned upon--at the time (Fall 1975), especially with male patients.
More of your fantasies, I suppose.
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#510 Mar 15, 2013
MM- your post re shaved for treatment of soccer injury- seems very disrespectful but they would likely claim the contingent was mainly students in training and need experience. For the shaving it is quite possible the 17 year old girl who sold you a burger at the greasy spoon was there observing as a student. However; if you were a HS soccer player and sought similar training for after school work you would not have been permitted to observe an injured female soccer player being prepped..... some say that is a dble std....not sure myself...
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#511 Mar 15, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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She had no right to do that.
To do what, Large ?
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#512 Mar 15, 2013
coyote wrote:
<quoted text> To do what, Large ?
Female nurses have no right to crowd round and gawk at a boy being shaved or such.

Since: Jan 13

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#513 Mar 15, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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That is only one of the characterists, not all of them. And I have just anger, and just rage, against evil sociapaths!
You speak with anger and rage unjustified against MaltaMon.
Really?
Very hilarious!

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#514 Mar 15, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Female nurses have no right to crowd round and gawk at a boy being shaved or such.
So you expect only gay-pedos like you and Malmon to gawk at boys?
We know that Malmon would have preferred a group of men gawking at him instead of women, being the gay that he is.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#515 Mar 15, 2013
coyote wrote:
MM- your post re shaved for treatment of soccer injury- seems very disrespectful but they would likely claim the contingent was mainly students in training and need experience. For the shaving it is quite possible the 17 year old girl who sold you a burger at the greasy spoon was there observing as a student. However; if you were a HS soccer player and sought similar training for after school work you would not have been permitted to observe an injured female soccer player being prepped..... some say that is a dble std....not sure myself...
He obviously played in the soccer team just to be able to see other naked boys in the showers. Did you ask him if he played in the girls soccer team as Molly?

Since: Jan 13

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#516 Mar 15, 2013
No wonder the nurses were curious and dubious about his anatomy.

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