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John

Dormánd, Hungary

#1 Apr 19, 2014
Hi!

There are many forums on the net where posters say there were/are many schools which required/require boys to be shirtless for PE lessons.

What was/is your PE kit at school?

I would like to read some PE teacher posts either what kind of PE kit they required/require at their school.
Jason K

Bishops Stortford, UK

#3 Apr 21, 2014
I went to a school in the 1990's that had a barechested indoor for gym or sports hall PE rule. It applied to all lads 11 to 18's. Infact the PE teachers seemed to delight in enforcing the rule especially on the shy ones like me who detested it, which was quite a few of us actually. It was just a case of wearing white shorts. Not really sure what it was, or is about being barechest shy but I think it was definitely a nipple thing with me, and always thought I wouldn't have been so bad if I hadn't got nipples on my chest. Could be wrong however!

What bugged me in the gym was team games, when we all looked the same up top. Rather than half of us put a top on to tell the teams apart on such games as indoor footy or basketball, we had teachers pick the teams and proceed to line you up and get a thick black marker pen and scribble a large cross right over the chest and the back of half the class. It was a pain to get off even in the shower afterwards but we weren't ever allowed to leave until it was gone, which meant getting another close classmate to help scrub your back.

Looking back I'm a bit sorry that I didn't actively enjoy all this barechested PE I was made to do.
John

Dormánd, Hungary

#4 Apr 21, 2014
Jason K wrote:
I went to a school in the 1990's that had a barechested indoor for gym or sports hall PE rule. It applied to all lads 11 to 18's. Infact the PE teachers seemed to delight in enforcing the rule especially on the shy ones like me who detested it, which was quite a few of us actually. It was just a case of wearing white shorts. Not really sure what it was, or is about being barechest shy but I think it was definitely a nipple thing with me, and always thought I wouldn't have been so bad if I hadn't got nipples on my chest. Could be wrong however!
What bugged me in the gym was team games, when we all looked the same up top. Rather than half of us put a top on to tell the teams apart on such games as indoor footy or basketball, we had teachers pick the teams and proceed to line you up and get a thick black marker pen and scribble a large cross right over the chest and the back of half the class. It was a pain to get off even in the shower afterwards but we weren't ever allowed to leave until it was gone, which meant getting another close classmate to help scrub your back.
Looking back I'm a bit sorry that I didn't actively enjoy all this barechested PE I was made to do.
Hi! Thank you for your answering.
I would like to ask about some memories of you:

Were you barechested and barefoot for all activities in the gym?, Was there any reason given having to be half naked for indoor lessons?
What was the reaction of boys having to be shirtless for PE? Was it a discussion theme amongst you?
What did you wear outdoors?
Jason K

Bishops Stortford, UK

#5 Apr 21, 2014
Not sure why there had to be a reason. It was the uniform and that was it. I can remember one or two in class pleading to be allowed tops now and again but to no avail. I absolutely never ever saw a single lad in my own gym classes over a 5 year period wearing a top at any time. It simply never happened, no matter what you looked like or how much you hated it or were body conscious. It was the same thing with footwear indoors. The rule was none, end of. To dare to walk in the gym even in a decent pair of sports shoes would have meant hell to pay. Barefoot every time like it or not, and I'd have preferred trainers. Without anything on the feet or top it automatically makes you feel a bit more vulnerable. I had a reasonable looking upper body and okay looking feet but was still self conscious about being like it, even when I'd been doing it for a long time.

In the gym there were always the class clowns who enjoyed making the quieter or shyer lads lives hell, and took advantage of the situation. I must admit I was guilty once when my best friend was up a climbing frame above me and I grabbed his shorts and pulled them clean down and off his legs, leaving him naked, as he couldn't grab them for holding on to the frame. I did this while a PE teacher was out. Recall the shorts getting passed around the class while my now naked friend was desperately trying to get them back until the teacher came back and caught us, and I got rollicked including both my nipples painfully twisted on my chest as I was told to apologise and behave.

Outdoors was basically a football kit, but if it was ever decently warm in spring or summer then we sometimes got told to forget our tops and do athletics based sport barechested. It felt better outside than in an often chilly gym.

Most lessons were just single gender, but in the younger age 11 to 14 about a third were shared with girls, especially in the gym. That could be tiresome! These classes would often involve a female and male teacher.

Showers would already be streaming away before class even got in the door of the change area to be met with wafts of hot steam. Never a cold shower in my school, they were scorching hot. We'd get barked at to get in them as fast as possible so we were all in at once which could be pretty crowded with a full class of 30. You'd then be told when you could start coming out, and it was never less than 3 minutes. The dipping your head under a shower and pretending was never a remote possibility at my school ever. Anyone who forgot their towel was never allowed to borrow one from another person, and had to stand with hands on head in the middle of the change room and drip dry naked, which happened to me twice aged about 14. By the time I was dry most of the rest of class were all dressed and ready to go the first time and the second time I was still standing there with hands on my head drying when everyone had gone and it was just me and the teacher left!

So it didn't much pay to be too shy at my 90's school, as most of us boys had few secrets from each other about the way we looked.
Phil

Godstone, UK

#9 Apr 23, 2014
phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi John I successfully ended the baretop option for pupils who did not bring their pe kit or had no vest with knickers to strip down to at the Alex Macleod school London in 2013.
See the old 2012 prospectus now repealed.
AMP text Mar 12b.cdr - The TES
www.tes.co.uk/Upload/Attachments/.../AMP-Hand... [1].pd...&#8206;
Welcome to Alexander McLeod Primary School. Contents ..... Leotard or sports shorts, pants or knickers, plus PLAIN vest, sports shirt or tee-shirt,(or bare top).
John, you will notice that DJW is clearly deluded and one can short of a six pack.
He often forgets his own screen name when he posts and uses those of others but he is too stupid to realise how stupid he is.
Phil

Godstone, UK

#10 Apr 23, 2014
phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi John I successfully ended the baretop option for pupils who did not bring their pe kit or had no vest with knickers to strip down to at the Alex Macleod school London in 2013.
See the old 2012 prospectus now repealed.
AMP text Mar 12b.cdr - The TES
www.tes.co.uk/Upload/Attachments/.../AMP-Hand... [1].pd...&#8206;
Welcome to Alexander McLeod Primary School. Contents ..... Leotard or sports shorts, pants or knickers, plus PLAIN vest, sports shirt or tee-shirt,(or bare top).
"....I successfully ended the baretop option for pupils"

You didn't.
Presumably you posting all your fantasies persuaded the governers to change the policy?
Jason K

Bishops Stortford, UK

#12 Apr 25, 2014
I'm not really sure what point the previous poster is making by religiously listing schools and their full PE kit requirements like this, which I have also seen elsewhere. In the end it rather makes the point for a simple kit with fewer items, such as doing gym classes barechested and barefoot like I had to do. If it's only a pair of shorts that's not much to remember. Although I really didn't like doing the lessons like that myself in school, I now look back and rather wish I hadn't been so silly over the whole thing and embraced it instead of letting body image issues get in the way and my not wanting to be seen shirtless.

We have to do many things we don't really care for in life. If the worst thing you end up looking back on and saying is that you were made to take your top off and be barechested in a PE class in your schooldays then I'd say that is quite fortunate and not the worst. Those, like me who did compulsory barechested PE probably also did compulsory showering involving full body nudity too anyway, so just going on about one aspect of the body seems in the end illogical.
Phil

Eastbourne, UK

#13 Apr 26, 2014
Jason K wrote:
I'm not really sure what point the previous poster is making by religiously listing schools and their full PE kit requirements like this, which I have also seen elsewhere. In the end it rather makes the point for a simple kit with fewer items, such as doing gym classes barechested and barefoot like I had to do. If it's only a pair of shorts that's not much to remember. Although I really didn't like doing the lessons like that myself in school, I now look back and rather wish I hadn't been so silly over the whole thing and embraced it instead of letting body image issues get in the way and my not wanting to be seen shirtless.
We have to do many things we don't really care for in life. If the worst thing you end up looking back on and saying is that you were made to take your top off and be barechested in a PE class in your schooldays then I'd say that is quite fortunate and not the worst. Those, like me who did compulsory barechested PE probably also did compulsory showering involving full body nudity too anyway, so just going on about one aspect of the body seems in the end illogical.
"I'm not really sure what point the previous poster is making by religiously listing schools and their full PE kit requirements like this..."

Jason, if you do a search on Topix using DJW as the keyword all will become clear.
DJW is weirdly obsessed with children and child nudity, PE kits and school locker rooms and as for most of his posts he simply copies and pastes the work of others.
Clearly he never got over his childhood experiences and cannot grow up, move on and get a life.
Bob the other 'man' he mentions in his posts also finds child abuse quite funny and on the strange planet he lives on of you challenge him for it in his eyes you are the pervert for having read the post.
As you say, illogical but they lie to themselves and tell themselves they are normal.
Phil

Eastbourne, UK

#14 Apr 26, 2014
I have no idea why my location is showing as Bracknell.
That is miles away.
Jason K

Bishops Stortford, UK

#15 Apr 26, 2014
Point taken Phil.

I am new to this and the whole thread seems very poorly moderated compared to other places I've used before.

I'd rather not name it here, but my old school that I was at between 1990 and 1995 still has boys PE lessons without shirts in the gymnasium. I don't seem to notice a lot of fuss being kicked up about the fact. Think about it for a moment. The boys all go swimming in nothing but their swimming trunks with no issue, but the moment they basically wear the same outfit, of just shorts in a non wet setting, like a gym, the barechestedness becomes a problem to some people! Fascinating why. There does seem to be a psychological difference, and I was always far more self conscious and unhappy being shirtless in a gym class playing on apparatus, doing basketball or whatever, compared to jumping in the swimming pool looking much the same.

Explain that!
MaltaMon

Wilmington, DE

#18 Apr 26, 2014
DjW wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong. There are only 3 schools that still have bare chested pe
I have successfully campaigned in 2013 against St Michael's in Rochdale having bare chested PE for boys. Until October/November 2013 this was its rule!
http://www.stmichaelscemidd.rochdale.sch.uk/o...
8. Broome Hill in Doncaster. This school has now gone Unisex and allows both boys and girls to wear sports trousers for indoor PE.
It is noted that these schools were either primary schools that took 5-8 year olds or community schools that took 5-11 year olds.
To my knowledge there are no private schools, grammar schools, secondary schools, comprehensive schools, sports colleges or Academies that require boys to go topless for dry sports. swimming is another matter.
Jason, this queer pedophile has "campaigned successfully" against exactly nothing. Indeed, who would or could take seriously a "man" who is obsessed with the nudity of young boys, who has posted child pornography (all of it involving boys) and videos of nide teenaged boys wrestling, and who stages "discussions", even debates, with himself while posting under a variety of names, including mine and Phil's. Please, ignore him. Or report him to the authorities in Britain.
Jason K

Bishops Stortford, UK

#19 Apr 26, 2014
Who is this person in the previous post to contradict me and tell me I am wrong about a school I went to and know all about in the place I live? I think there are something like 30,000 schools in the UK and this person seems to think he/she knows about the dress codes for each and every one of them! Absolute nonsense.

I find all this detailed obsession being posted about various schools policies on kits all rather creepy. Somebody actually campaigning against barechested requirements in schools, are you serious? You need to focus your attention to more pressing matters.

If you are some kind of genuine campaigner on these issues then can you prove it by posting something that backs up your claim, as something would be verifiable.

I expect to be waiting a long time.

I didn't much care for the compulsion to be shirtless in school PE classes and would always have liked a top on, plus something on my feet too for that matter, but when and if my own children go to my old school in a few years time and if that still is still doing barechested boys PE then I am not going to get all hot and bothered about it, and they will just have to follow school rules, like we all had to, whether we liked them or not, even if it meant wearing or not wearing certain items.
Jason K

Bishops Stortford, UK

#20 Apr 26, 2014
MaltaMon wrote:
<quoted text> Jason, this queer pedophile has "campaigned successfully" against exactly nothing. Indeed, who would or could take seriously a "man" who is obsessed with the nudity of young boys, who has posted child pornography (all of it involving boys) and videos of nide teenaged boys wrestling, and who stages "discussions", even debates, with himself while posting under a variety of names, including mine and Phil's. Please, ignore him. Or report him to the authorities in Britain.
You could be right.

It seems nobody can actually have a sensible and decent discussion on this matter without the freaks swarming around it like bees round the honeypot.

MaltaMon

Wilmington, DE

#22 Apr 26, 2014
"Creepy" certainly describes him. You should check out the school-locker-room fantasies and so-called CFNM (all of the 'm's of which are young boys forced by females to strip off), of the bare-bottomed spanking of young schoolboys, and of child rape and other child sexual abuse. Mind you, he doesn't write any of them himself. He searches obsessively for them online, then copies and pastes them here. The same is true of the child and teen pornography, including graphic videos, to which he has posted dozens upon dozens of links. And then there are his more recent postings of links to videos of nudity on the stage (plays and performance art) and other filmed images of men, women and boys in the nude. Don't miss, too, his frequent use of childish toilet humor (He refers obsessively to my home state in the US as "Penis-sylvania, and the one across the river as "Nude Jersey". He is a chilling, deeply disturbed middle-aged sexual deviant. And given his dark fixations, very likely, a dangerous man, a threat to young boys in his community. He belongs in either a psychiatric institution or in prison.
Jason K

Bishops Stortford, UK

#23 Apr 26, 2014
These sick deviants actually think they fool people by using some kind of reverse psychology of professing to be against the very issues they infact relish. This is how I read that poster who runs off all those kit rules and school names. Clearly a fantasist obsessive.
Bob

Mont-saint-hilaire, Canada

#24 Apr 26, 2014
MaltaMon wrote:
"Creepy" certainly describes him. You should check out the school-locker-room fantasies and so-called CFNM (all of the 'm's of which are young boys forced by females to strip off), of the bare-bottomed spanking of young schoolboys, and of child rape and other child sexual abuse. Mind you, he doesn't write any of them himself. He searches obsessively for them online, then copies and pastes them here. The same is true of the child and teen pornography, including graphic videos, to which he has posted dozens upon dozens of links. And then there are his more recent postings of links to videos of nudity on the stage (plays and performance art) and other filmed images of men, women and boys in the nude. Don't miss, too, his frequent use of childish toilet humor (He refers obsessively to my home state in the US as "Penis-sylvania, and the one across the river as "Nude Jersey". He is a chilling, deeply disturbed middle-aged sexual deviant. And given his dark fixations, very likely, a dangerous man, a threat to young boys in his community. He belongs in either a psychiatric institution or in prison.
Jason, creepy doesn't even begin to describe MaltaMon the Molester. He has only a grade-school education, yet claims to have a PhD, and to have done graduate-school work in Paris.
Yet he writes like the grade-school moron that he is. Another outrageous claim that he makes is that he is an ex-intelligence operative, despite his writing showing very little in the way of intelligence.
Never married, he used fraud to sponsor and eventually foster a child, that he refers to as his "son". He raped his "son": in 2004 after a soccer game, and committed violent physical assault on the boy, who eventually fled to Canada, working as a squeegee, and eventually as an escort on the streets of Montreal. Now a student at McGill, he had to file a restraining order against MaltaMon, who kept visiting Montreal to threaten the lad.
In the meantime, MaltaMon the Molester continues his campaign of depravity, molesting and stalking children in multiple municipalities of Pennsylvania. He posts logs of his exploits on Topix, and gloats of his sexual conquests of innocent boys.
He is aided and abetted by his UK counterpart, Pedo Phil Phellatio, who resides in Salford, and stalks children over there. Both of them post links to child pornography. Both use the technique of "diversion" whereby they attempt to accuse others of similar crimes, in order that the focus is not on them.

" He is a chilling, deeply disturbed middle-aged sexual deviant. And given his dark fixations, very likely, a dangerous man, a threat to young boys in his community. He belongs in either a psychiatric institution or in prison."
The above is a classic example of MaltaMon attempting to blame another for his own crimes. Ironically, he describes himself as he tries to sully the reputation of another.

But the police are tracking MaltaMon the Molester, and expect to arrest him any day now.
Soon he will be behind bars, as the wheels of justice are turning.
MaltaMon

Cherry Hill, NJ

#25 Apr 26, 2014
Jason, Meet Pedo Bob of Montreal. Tonight he posts under his own name, but like DJW, he often forgets to do that. He's a known (but, sadly, as yet unregistered) sex offender. A pedophile. As Phil explained yovyou (the real Phil... Hope you already can spot DJW or Bob posing as Phil or me) Pedo Bob is more into violent sexual abuse of pubescent boys than DJ is. DJ likes variety, is more fixated on the forced nudity of young schoolboys in groups and actually at school. Bob is fixated on the rape of boys and other forms of violent sexual abuse of underaged males in the throes of puberty. And unlike DJ, Bob prefers to write his own material, to create his own pedophile fantasies.
MaltaMon

Cherry Hill, NJ

#26 Apr 26, 2014
Then again, DJW hates variety when it comes to his phony "crusade". He's a Gay Johnny One Note in his insane insistence that he's been out "campaigning" against nudity in locker rooms. He hasn't been "out" doing anything. He has only remained indoors, searching the web for nude-schoolboy material and child pornography to post on Topix Education Forum. By his own telling, when he was fifteen he and his classmates were forced to walk past a fully-clothed PE class of girls in nothing but towels wrapped around their waists. This apparently was a traumatic event to him and has damaged him for life. He is enormously unsophisticated about the issue of sex, focusing as a child would on the "equipment"--penises , mostly. Like a young pre-pubescent boy, he clearly lacks any intimate familiarity with a woman's anatomy. But I doubt he has any interest. If he ever has had sexual contact of any sort with anyone other than himself, it has never been with an adult of either sex. A pity, really.
Bob

Mont-saint-hilaire, Canada

#27 Apr 26, 2014
Notice, Jason, how MaltaMon the Molester posts not one, but two replies of sheer blabbery to obfuscate things/

Keep posting, MaltaMon, your days are numbered.
Jason K

Bishops Stortford, UK

#28 Apr 26, 2014
I think I'll leave you guys to slug it out between yourselves.

I only came here to talk about being forced into doing barechested PE!

Just let guys wear a t-shirt or vest if they want to. What difference does it make in the end? Not a lot, although some seem to think shirtless boys behave better. Well if my own class experience is anything to go by I didn't notice it, as I mentioned previously in a post about larking around. Certainly the fact that I was in a gym lesson barechested didn't mean I fell into line. I'm sure all of us used to have more banter because of getting our nips out. Recall one idiot who used to enjoy creeping up behind various boys and suddenly very painfully tweaking and twisting both nipples. I myself preferred pointing my middle knuckle out from a fist and digging it into the bare back of certain people!

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