coyote
#143 Aug 17, 2012
Which means most people in your social circle do not talk that way ! Sad person you appear to be and am happy you find someone to assoc. with !!! Good for you !!
Phil

Manchester, UK

#144 Aug 18, 2012
"All boys aged 12 to 15"

I find this puzzling.
After the 3rd year at my senior (high) school showers were no longer compulsory.
By the age of 14 most boys are no longer little boys anymore so if the idea of stopping forced showers is to spare the boys blushes it's a bit late for that as they will have seen it all anyway.
MaltaMon

New Berlinville, PA

#145 Aug 18, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the only forum I'm on, moron, and if it's strange, you're on it too. So maybe you're the immature masturbater with no life who trawls the net for 'strange' forums.
See what I mean about this dude being a pathalogical liar? He even lies when he doesn't need to lie. he just can't help himself. This is NOT the only forum you're "on", Pedo Bob, you sick child molesting bastard. You'll be prosecuted before long, I assure you.
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#146 Aug 18, 2012
Hey M&M ,you have been spouting same about that for some time now- what is the point ?- why don't you shut up and let us know when it happens ? Goodness- you keep warning bob and he will escape and likely take refuge in the same hospital you are in- dunno... and neither do you !!...
MaltaMon

Harrisburg, PA

#147 Aug 18, 2012
Whatever you say, coyote. Yes, that's exactly how things like this work: I should tell him exactly how this will all go down, and then he'd be found guilty because I've told him in advance what to expect. Seems as if you're a non-believer. But I suspect that you've never met Pedo Bob or any of his young victims in person. Loyalty to someone whom you've never known and who portrays himself through lies and invective is very strange,indeed. And as for the hospital? Of course: that's what you're supposed to say. I don't expect anything more. Thank you for being you, coyote. Ciao, Baby.
Bob

Dorval, Canada

#148 Aug 18, 2012
If you wanted to catch a pedophile, why tip him off? File the complaint, expose the evidence, and let the police make the arrest.
But you've been firing blanks on this one for months, MullettMoron, and "I ain'ts affeared" as they would say back in Tennesee (giggle).
I'm not afraid, but I am tired of the same old threats, ie "the police are closing in", "any day now the the local and federal will be at your door", etc etc...(yawn)
Put your money where your mouth is, and make that call! I'm sitting here with my Sears catalogues with kids' underwear photos, copies of juvenile porn, addresses of children's parks and schools, and my shotgun, just waiting for the local and federal to arrive.
Bring it on, and I'll come out screamin'!!!
MaltaMon

Elkton, MD

#149 Aug 20, 2012
You're a NAMBLA member, Bob. A boy lover. You belong in gaol. The thing is, I'm not satisfied with your being prosecuted just for having raped my son. I'm gathering together other victims of yours. That hasn't been easy, of course, since they didn't know my son. The objective is to put you away for life. Conviction for the rape of one boy years ago won't guarantee that. So keep on
"waitin'", Pedo Bob. We're more than half way there.

And if you were not guilty as charged, you wouldn't be obsessed with me. During my three months in Asia, you even created an entire new thread devoted to me, and accused me of actually being Monsignor Linn of Philadelphia, who is incarcerated an unable to access these threads. I wonder why an innocent man would behave like that.
DJW

Bridgwater, UK

#150 Aug 20, 2012
Although the UK policy is far from the voluntary shower policy I would like to see, with different policies at different schools left to the arbitrary whim of school governors at least we dont have the harsh nude shower policy that is enforced on all pupils in Nordic countries like Denmark and Sweden. Please see excerpts below:

A Swedish school district has sparked outrage for striking a deal with local Muslim groups ensuring Muslim students can skip out on overnight class trips and Muslim girls don't have to be naked when showering at school.

Her comments came in response to reading a document outlining an agreement between education officials in Jönköping municipality and local Muslim groups ensuring special treatment for Muslim children enrolled in area schools.

"It's not only about exceptions for food, but it's also about an exception from human rights. Children learning from an early age that gender segregation is something natural and that love without marriage is a sin and immoral," wrote Andersson.

Among other things, the document includes guidance ensuring that schools will allow Muslim girls to shower in their underwear following physical education classes and that students would be allowed to skip out on study visits of class trips that involve overnight stays.

Rapp emphasized that the agreement would be reviewed "closely" to ensure it complies with Swedish law.

Meanwhile, GAPF, along with other groups, have reported the matter to national education authorities in Sweden, arguing that the agreement legitimizes violence, oppression and control over Muslim children.

School should be a neutral environment where they avoid being controlled. Children aren't born with religious values, rather it is parents' traditional convictions that are forced on the children. Schools and municipalities shouldn't contribute to that."

GAPF is also looking into whether there are similar agreements in other municipalities.

http://www.thelocal.se/40788/20120511/

I love the way the swedish argue the muslims are violating pupil's freedom of choice when it is they who force all their pupils to shower nude.

You shouldnt have to be muslim to get privacy, either they should build self contained cubicles or they should give pupils the option of not showering or washing in spare underwear or swimming costumes.

It is the Swedish social democrats who brought muslim mass immigration to Stockholm even though unlike the British or French they had no former colonial obligations. Now they think they can hold onto their Scandinavian Protestant Sauna culture without realising Islamic multiculturalism coupled with an awareness of Right to Privacy issues from the US led internet is fundamentally changing the Nordic region in the long term.
MaltaMon

Cressona, PA

#151 Aug 20, 2012
Bob wrote:
If you wanted to catch a pedophile, why tip him off? File the complaint, expose the evidence, and let the police make the arrest.
But you've been firing blanks on this one for months, MullettMoron, and "I ain'ts affeared" as they would say back in Tennesee (giggle).
I'm not afraid, but I am tired of the same old threats, ie "the police are closing in", "any day now the the local and federal will be at your door", etc etc...(yawn)
Put your money where your mouth is, and make that call! I'm sitting here with my Sears catalogues with kids' underwear photos, copies of juvenile porn, addresses of children's parks and schools, and my shotgun, just waiting for the local and federal to arrive.
Bring it on, and I'll come out screamin'!!!
Pedo Bob, my posts here, which really seem to upset you, have led over the yesrs to the identification of two of your victims. We've been in touch ever since. Moreover, the more I post, the less likely you are to troll for more innocent boys to outsmart into sex. But you always neglect the reality that children grow up and don't forget. That you can outsmart innocent kids into letting your rape them makes you think that you somehow are more intelligent than adults who are on to you. Won't work, Bob. You're going to gaol. "Not today, not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of your life" (and your underaged victims are the ones who've been 'screamin'', you sick bastard)
coyote

Shelburne, Canada

#153 Aug 20, 2012
Bob: may be a sound idea to sell your shares in the quarterhorse stud farms yu have in tenn. and s. cal.!! M&M may read something into such an op.-... jest sayin !.. He is correct though- I do not have a clue who ur and it is a surprise he ack that !! Who cares !!
MaltaMon

Philadelphia, PA

#154 Aug 20, 2012
Coyote, I will ignore any further posts of yours because you're just a lapdog for a known pedophile, and as such you obviously have no self-respect or, more important, any sense of decency or humanity. Spout all you want in defense of you're "colleague": it makes no difference. I'd have to wonder, however, why anyone would behave as you do. Have to wonder if perhaps you're into little boys just as your friend "Bob" is. So take care, coyote, and say whatever you want about me or about anyone else. I don't give a damn. My only objective here is to get Bob off the streets, removed from civilization, and locked behind bars for the rest of his life. Farewell, Sweetie. You must be some sexually twisted piece of work yourself.
Bob

Dorval, Canada

#155 Aug 20, 2012
Coyote: better be careful matey, the "local and federal" may be at your door any minute!

Hahahahaha!
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#156 Aug 20, 2012
U R rite- two DEA (canucks) agents were here yesterday for a beer and borrowed the key for my golf cart which they are welcome to use when I am not at the course- there was a 3rd fellow who I think is ret'd HRM police officer. Didn't act unusual and enjoyed the cold Moosehead from my bar ! I expect them back t'morrow with the key as I'll be playing in a club tournament on wed/thurs. Well, seems M&M was correct !
MaltaMon

Trenton, NJ

#157 Aug 21, 2012
Bob wrote:
Coyote: better be careful matey, the "local and federal" may be at your door any minute!
Hahahahaha!
Nah. Who wants to go after a numbskull like that? We're only interested in stopping you, Pedophile Bob: you have forfeited the right to live as a free man, or whatever it is you are. And be serious: we're not talking any minute, but it won't be very long. So stay on your toes... as difficult as that is for you physically.

Night night, Bob, you sick bastard.
Bob

Dorval, Canada

#158 Aug 21, 2012
"but it won't be very long"

How long? I'm tired of waiting for your empty threats to come to fruition.

"we're not talking any minute"

"we're"? Who's "we"? You and the Legion of Decency? You and Peggy?(good luck getting on a flight with her in tow!)

You and Captain CaDad?

Hahaha!
Bob

Dorval, Canada

#159 Aug 21, 2012
coyote wrote:
U R rite- two DEA (canucks) agents were here yesterday for a beer and borrowed the key for my golf cart which they are welcome to use when I am not at the course- there was a 3rd fellow who I think is ret'd HRM police officer. Didn't act unusual and enjoyed the cold Moosehead from my bar ! I expect them back t'morrow with the key as I'll be playing in a club tournament on wed/thurs. Well, seems M&M was correct !
What a coincidence! Last night two agents from the Constabulaire Federale Nationale et Municipale (CFNM) came to my house to ask me about these molestation charges. We were out in the backyard and they were grilling for over an hour.(grilling the hungarian and polish sausages they had picked up on the Main)
Then they tried to administer a 'truth serum' to make me talk: Boreale Dark Ale. When that didn't work, they started taking the truth serum themselves, and we polished off a case between us.
Told them I didn't have any child pornography, but did have a dozen or so Playboys from the early 60s. As they promised not to impound them, I let them see the mags.
We finished off by 'waterboarding': jumping off the board into my neighbor's swimming pool to sober up.
Poor guys, I didn't get into trouble, but they probably missed their curfew back at the station. I wonder what they told the sarge?
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#160 Aug 21, 2012
ya no wat ? maybe m&m is mis understanding why the "feds" are going to visit your place ? They may be sick of his "baloney burgers" , weak beer and cfnm posters throughout his cell. They prefer the bbq and drinkable ale at your place vs the sicko kingdom. I understand Conrad is heading your way with big$$ as he needs a ghost writer who can identify true id's of people such as Peg (there couldn't be any more !) He is awesome but cash your cheque first or make it cash only. jest sayin.....
Bob

Dorval, Canada

#161 Aug 22, 2012
If Connie offers any money, I'll ask that it be in the traditional format: cash only in a brown envelope a la Brian Mulroney...
DJW

Bridgwater, UK

#162 Aug 23, 2012
Graeme wrote "If one or both of my sons don't want to strip off naked and shower then that's their choice to me. Same with the others it will affect.
Are we going back to the future or what here? "

I agree with you Graeme this issue regarding forcedcommunal nudity was considered in an ofsted report in 1996 see;


BP16 Showering within PE.docc97.e2bn.net/.../schools/.../Advice%20o... +1'd this publicly. Undo
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The Ofsted report of 1995/6 suggests that 'often cramped and dirty, changing rooms lack proper ... lack of time; or even because they did not have any soap (Tinson 1996).... lessons, some schools have moved away from compulsory showering.... All schools are encouraged to develop or review a local policy on showering,...

Unfortunately, the report was vague talked alot about girls being less willing to shower communally and left the issue to individual school governors.

While there is no physical force the school can use to force your sons to shower they can go down the detention route, letters to parents leading to expulsion.

However, I advise standing your ground see if they have an identical policy for girls in the school or if the girls showers are cubicled. Alot of schools still discriminate on the grounds of sex.

If the governors dont budge they should consider allowing children to shower in swimwear or underwear.

Schools claim they dont have the money to rip out communal showers and replace them with cubicles but Waterwise estimates: Schools in the UK spend £70 million annually on the provision of fresh water and the treatment of waste water. A typical primary school can spend £2,000 a year on their water bill, and a secondary school can spend twice this amount.

So if we live in a time of austerity why dont they stop communal showers and save the public purse.

Unlike in my later father's days kids regularly change clothes at home an wash regulary up to twice a day. Back in the 1930's kids often had no shoes to wear at home and sometimes washed only once a fortnight. There was also no washing machines or detergents.

So today children can wash at home no problems. In my dads day in the 1930/1940's and my mothers in the 1950's parish schools and secondary modern schools never had showers and pe was done in underwear. Arguably in those days you could argue they were needed but not today.

I oppose state sponsored child abuse of our children. Communal showering can lead to transmission of veruccas, MRSA and HPV. I dare say your son's school wont even provide them with soap or shower gel. This means the skins pores remain unblocked and washing hair in just water leads to dandruff.

You shold fight for your son's right to privacy and protection against degrading treatment. I am not against individual practicing naturism in the private sphere but schools should not mandate it as government policy.

It sounds like you school allows pupils the right to object showers in the 4th year but by that age boys are fully pubescent and need deodrant after games to cover up the smell. How can they justify forced showering at 13,14 and 15 when many have not developed and are shy about other boys seeing them nude.

While many schools have gone optional shower and all schools seem to have dropped shirtless sport for dry games (ie not swimming) or doing PE without underwear which was the hallmark of many schools in the 1970's. Governor's need to step into the future and realise we are pluralistic society when it comes to religion and gender. PE should no longer be seen as an initiation into would be military service where 13 & 14 year olds are forced to be nude despite having no prep for this at 5-12.

Schools argue they are in loco parentis but as you say your son does not parade around the house nude. He would likely lock the bathroom and shower in private. He is not 3 and doesnt need to potty trained or supervised. The same goes for school showers.
DJW

Bridgwater, UK

#163 Aug 23, 2012
Graeme wrote "If one or both of my sons don't want to strip off naked and shower then that's their choice to me. Same with the others it will affect.
Are we going back to the future or what here? "

I agree with you Graeme this issue regarding forced communal nudity was considered in an ofsted report in 1996 see;
BP16 Showering within PE.docc97.e2bn.net/.../schools/.../Advice%20o... +1'd this publicly. Undo
File Format: Microsoft Word - Quick View
The Ofsted report of 1995/6 suggests that 'often cramped and dirty, changing rooms lack proper ... lack of time; or even because they did not have any soap (Tinson 1996).... lessons, some schools have moved away from compulsory showering.... All schools are encouraged to develop or review a local policy on showering,...

Unfortunately, the report was vague talked alot about girls being less willing to shower communally and left the issue to individual school governors.
While schools can no longer use physical force to make your sons shower they can go down the detention route, letters to parents leading to expulsion.

However, I advise standing your ground see if they have an identical policy for girls in the school or if the girls showers are cubicled. Alot of schools still discriminate on the grounds of sex.
If the governors dont budge they should consider allowing children to shower in swimwear or underwear.

Schools claim they dont have the money to rip out communal showers and replace them with cubicles but Waterwise estimates: Schools in the UK spend £70 million annually on the provision of fresh water and the treatment of waste water. A typical primary school can spend £2,000 a year on their water bill, and a secondary school can spend twice this amount.

So if we live in a time of austerity why dont they stop communal showers and save the public purse.

Unlike in my later father's day, kids regularly change clothes at home an wash regurlary up to twice a day. Back in the 1930's kids often had no shoes to wear at home and sometimes washed only once a fortnight. There were also no washing machines or detergents.

So today children can wash at home no problems. In my dads day in the 1930/1940's and my mothers in the 1950's parish schools and secondary modern schools never had showers and pe was done in underwear. In those days you could argue school showers were needed but not today.

I oppose state sponsored child abuse of our children. Communal showering can lead to transmission of verucae, MRSA and HPV. I dare say your son's school wont even provide them with soap or shower gel. This means the skins pores remain unblocked and washing hair in just water leads to dandruff.
You should fight for your son's right to privacy and protection against degrading treatment. I am not against individuals practicing naturism in the private sphere but schools should not mandate it as government policy.
It sounds like your school allows pupils the right to object showers in the 4th year but by that age boys are fully pubescent and need deodorant after games to cover up the smell. How can they justify forced showering at 13,14 and 15 when many havent developed and are shy about other boys seeing them nude.

While many schools have gone optional shower and all schools seem to have dropped shirtless sport for dry games (ie not swimming) or doing PE without underwear which was the hallmark of many schools in the 1970's. Governor's need to step into the future and realise we are pluralistic society when it comes to religion and gender. PE should no longer be seen as an initiation into would be military service where 13 & 14 year olds are forced to be nude despite having no prep for this at 5-12 or requirement at 15/16.

Schools argue they are in loco parentis but as you say your son doesnt parade around the house nude. He would likely lock the bathroom and shower in private. He is not 3 and doesnt need to be potty trained or supervised. The same goes for school showers.

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