Grades up, knowledge down

Grades up, knowledge down

There are 28 comments on the Newsday story from Mar 8, 2007, titled Grades up, knowledge down. In it, Newsday reports that:

The year is 2007, but it might as well be 1991, 1983, 1967 or any number of points when brows were furrowed and hands were wrung over the state of education.

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Since: Jan 07

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#21 Mar 23, 2007
Failed wrote:
It's not really the teachers fault that students are becoming less and less intelligent. I get B's C's and D's but I have no problem in school and all I have (ADD) along with most of the teens that go to school with me. Yes I agree that alot of teachers dont know what there teaching but with me I'd rather draw or sleep then listen. Even though I have a low GPA I work fast food but every time some one has a problem with the cash register i am the first they call for. so its not the teachers fualt its more the schools because they limit the teachers to the amount of fun they can put in the lessons.
What you described is a big part of the problem as well. I can relate even though I graduated high school in 95. As Mark put it..it's a gap between what is being taught and students actually "learning".

Since: Jan 07

Columbia, SC

#22 Mar 23, 2007
You know, educating kids on real world skills such as register management and how to properly organize a group wouldn't be a bad idea. Most of the high school students have part time jobs that would require this and it would cut down the on-the-job training.
Mark

United States

#23 Mar 23, 2007
The Librarian wrote:
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So should the teacher have ignore the students comment? This is something that happens quite often in our rural school. I personally would have informed the student that we do not call names and then moved the subject to another topic. This situation came out of my teaching profession textbook. My teacher never went over it though.
So you have taught for 16 years? Wow. What do you feel should be done about the region where you work? We don't have gangs here in my part of Tennessee, but we do have a few issues with students doing drugs, getting pregnant, and low parent involvement. The only thing I can think of to do about this is to be there for the kids if they need my help. I'd hate to lecture them on the consequences of their actions because 1) Many will not listen to what I have to say. 2) I don't think the parents who join in with their children on these "extracurricular activites" would like it very much.
I'd love to mention things such as these to my students, just for the chance of me actually getting through to even one of my students. I guess I will know how to deal with these things after I have been in the field. Its easy to read the text and get scared of all the issues I will have to deal with, but for the sake of reaching that one child and making a difference, I have to continue on my path.
I don't think anyone knows how brave teachers are when facing their students. I take my hat off to you considering the region in which you are teaching. It's teachers like you who deal with the worst of the worst situations that make all of us feel proud.
Dear Librarian, I am sorry i didn['t et beck to you sooner, I think in real life, of course there should be a discussion about it. The truth is, is that we do call names, and the discussion should not revolve around what we should or should not do, but the reasons why we feel like doing what it is we do. Education that is based on shaming students that don't behave as teachers want them to only becomes a fruitless power stuggle at the expense of the real deal which is an authentic relationship based on mutual respect. It takes no courage at all to treat people wtih respect, there is no such thing as facing students, unless you plan on creating an adverserial relationship with your students. As I have told you, I have very rough students without a hint of threat of disciplinary action, but believe me, there is plenty of discussion about the development of character and humility and respect are modeled every day. And quite honestly, my view points and believe me, I have not yet met a teacher that feels proud because I am a teacher. I am antithetical to the profession and other teachers resent me for the relationships I build with the students at my school. Teaching should not be the battle it is, and all accountability must fall on a profession that would create an adverserial relationship with children when it only makes real teaching impossible, all the other sob stories are no more than excuses teachers make for their arrogance. sincerely mark
MaltaMon

Trois-rivières, Canada

#24 Feb 2, 2014
Grades up, knowledge down?

Grades would be up if pants were down. Boys who get poor marks because they don't study or because they misbehave in class would soon correct their errant ways if bare-bottom spankings were administered by a female teacher.

And positive reinforcement would work too: bathing suits down to permit boys to partake in nude swimming activities.
MaltaMon

Mullica Hill, NJ

#25 Feb 3, 2014
MaltaMon wrote:
Grades up, knowledge down?
Grades would be up if pants were down. Boys who get poor marks because they don't study or because they misbehave in class would soon correct their errant ways if bare-bottom spankings were administered by a female teacher.
And positive reinforcement would work too: bathing suits down to permit boys to partake in nude swimming activities.
This is Pedo Bob's concept of humor. The "man" is in his fifties. Pathetic.
Bob

Trois-rivières, Canada

#26 Feb 3, 2014
MaltaMon wrote:
<quoted text> This is Pedo Bob's concept of humor. The "man" is in his fifties. Pathetic.
You don't know who I am, or how old I am, so knock it off, moron.
Reading and responding to my posts is MaltaMon's concept of time well spent. Pathetic.
Bob

Trois-rivières, Canada

#28 Feb 4, 2014
Hahahahaha!

Dance-a-Mon is hilarious!!
Mitchigun

Noida, India

#31 Feb 17, 2014
student learning should improve by changing classroom and school practices both requires and results in changes to a school's culture. It also impacts how and what improvements are made to benefit student learning, and data can be a powerful lever to explore inequities, expose systemic biases, and change beliefs and practices needed to improve the achievement of suppress students

Thanks
Vectorindia

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