Why Stephen Hawking made a mistake backing Israel boycott

Full story: The Washington Post

The University of Cambridge, Hawking's academic home for decades, initially said he was pulling out for health reasons - Hawking is almost completely paralyzed from Lou Gehrig's disease - but later said it was a decision Hawking made "based on advice from Palestinian academics that he should respect the boycott," the Associated Press reported .

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LineDazzle

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May 14, 2013
 
Zuiko wrote:
Whatever the Jews' or Israel's shortcomings one has to admit that the state of Israel is a beacon of light in the middle of a sea of ignorance, backwardness and violence, not to mention religious fanaticism, that are the Arab countries that surround it.
The hypocrite Hawking would have been thrown out into the street begging as an invalid, or worse been tortured and killed for his "heretic" scientific beliefs. Even declaring that he is an atheist would have had him stoned to death in these backward countries. This alone proves what a hypocrite and ignorant person he is concerning this subject.
This is the only thing I agree with, Zuiko. I blame Islam.
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Rabbee, you can put your mind at rest, in spite of what the other Jew-haters here are saying, because G-D declared thousands of years ago in Genesis that "Judah (the Jewish State) will be like a young lion in the midst of his enemies in the latter days." This is an exact description of Israel today which is an isolated state surrounded by enemies but stronger than all of them put together. And you have G-D's guarantee that this will remain so till the end of time, although big trouble is also prophesied in the Middle East which will trigger WW3.
Zuiko believes in God?
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MaltaMon wrote:
<quoted text> What you say underscores what I say about religion as an excuse. It's all about power--military, economic, political. It really has little, at the level of decision-making of those three (where, obviously, the overlap is extensive)--to do with God, or whose God, or the Quran or the Tora. Those are for the masses to consume. And why do you think that Israel is "powerful", as you say? Is tiny, 65 year-old Israel, a segregated nation which covers a territory the size of New Jersey--mostly desert, almost entirely without its own natural resources-- inherently powerful? Are its people? Or did they have help over the past six and one-half decades? Lots and lots and lots and lots of help?
Originally yes, but the Israelites strategies also worked well during their fights, and they
did actually fight on their own. Later to this day now though, they do have independence when
it comes to military hardware.
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MaltaMon wrote:
Can you read or not? I question your claim that everyone has agreed that Hawking is a hypocrite. I have neither challenged the notion that he is a hypocrite nor otherwise suggested an opinion about it. So please, get a grip.
I was being facetious.

Obviously not everyone on this thread agrees that Hawking is being blatantly hypocritical, lefties are notorious 'fact dodgers' when it comes to Israel. And moslems.

And I'm not surprised that comment had you so worked up, lefties aren't generally known for their sense of humour.

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I I was being facetious.
Obviously not everyone aron this thread agrees that Hawking is being blatantly hypocritical, lefties are notorious 'fact dodgers' when it comes to Israel. And moslems.
And I'm not surprised that comment had you so worked up, lefties aren't generally known for their sense of humour.
And what nakes you so certain that I'm a "leftie"? You have no way of knowing where I stand on Hawking because I haven't offered an opinion. Moreover, you are the one that made a fallacious statement about all agreeing that he's a hypocrite. You say it was facetious. It was your reply to my asking what had happened to the original topic of this thread. So that tells you where I stand? Opinion and facts are the same thing as long as the opinion is yours? I wouldn't say that you are a leftie or a rightie. I reserve those assignations for those who know what they're talking about, who rely upon historical facts and real events.
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May 14, 2013
 
It appears MaltaMon has delivered the KO post ! "opinions and facts...."- well posted !!
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May 14, 2013
 
It is unfortunate that Dr. Hawking was not on the Achille Lauro instead of Leon Klinghoffer. Perhaps that would have given him clear insight into the nature of his new comrades character.
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MaltaMon wrote:
<quoted text>And what nakes you so certain that I'm a "leftie"? You have no way of knowing where I stand on Hawking because I haven't offered an opinion. Moreover, you are the one that made a fallacious statement about all agreeing that he's a hypocrite. You say it was facetious. It was your reply to my asking what had happened to the original topic of this thread. So that tells you where I stand? Opinion and facts are the same thing as long as the opinion is yours? I wouldn't say that you are a leftie or a rightie. I reserve those assignations for those who know what they're talking about, who rely upon historical facts and real events.
Leftwinged are in favour of the Muslims, right winged are against Islam. I believe Islam is an evil nation covered with a bright screen.
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It appears MaltaMon has delivered the KO post ! "opinions and facts...."- well posted !!
What are your opinions on this matter.

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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: you don't even know, nor asked what my STANDARD is to judge you. no matter how much of a nutcase you are, hypocritically calling others what you are. and you seem to be doing religiously well on your own merits of hating others. is there anything else, you won't lie about, to try to look different?
any one who is against Ysrael, must be against both jews and palestineans. because if you choose, one side or the other. your being, a prejudiced bigot. i do not accept, that only one side is wrong in their dispute. nor do i accept, that only you are right and all the jews only are wrong. and then claim unjustly, that you are not an anti-jewish semitism only.
your lying against G-D'S Truth, is your hate to own against G-D. and your lying about it, is just as reponsible. for all hell and death, ot different than anyone elses lies. your lying has also always been, responsible for the sinkings of the titanic and wwi too. all the tragity of the whole world, with your lies - you are also fully responsible for.
Thanks for proving me correct - despite spluttering out more untruths about me "lying," you couldn't prove a single thing using my own words.

As noted previously, you're simply an annoying nutball. You need to get help with your religious obsessions before you go crazy and blow up something or start shooting people.

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It is unfortunate that Dr. Hawking was not on the Achille Lauro instead of Leon Klinghoffer. Perhaps that would have given him clear insight into the nature of his new comrades character.
It's unfortunate that they don't push more Zionists in wheelchairs into the drink. Can we get YOU a wheelchair, Faith? ;)

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I was being facetious.
Obviously not everyone on this thread agrees that Hawking is being blatantly hypocritical, lefties are notorious 'fact dodgers' when it comes to Israel. And moslems.
And I'm not surprised that comment had you so worked up, lefties aren't generally known for their sense of humour.
We're not the types to laugh at oppression of a subject people by hypocritical crypto-Nazis, it's true. A character flaw, I suppose.
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We're not the types to laugh at oppression of a subject people by hypocritical crypto-Nazis, it's true. A character flaw, I suppose.
It is the Muslims who should be blamed, son! Remember, me, larglanguage, boy?

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It's unfortunate that they don't push more Zionists in wheelchairs into the drink. Can we get YOU a wheelchair, Faith? ;)
No, I am able bodied. Muslim cowards don't have the stones to take on someone that can actually fight back. That's why our Crusader armies and the Israelis have such an easy time slaughtering them like fish in a barrel.
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And what nakes you so certain that I'm a "leftie"?
I'm not, just an educated guess. Well, are you?
MaltaMon wrote:
You have no way of knowing where I stand on Hawking because I haven't offered an opinion
No you haven't. You certainly haven't tried to defend Hawking on any personal level, the majority of your posts on this thread just seem to attack Israel, Jews and Zionism. Where as the majority of my posts have, at the least, been on topic.

And when I make facetious remarks highlighting this, you expose your pathetic pedantry that would make chomsky himself, proud. Leftie.
MaltaMon wrote:
I reserve those assignations for those who know what they're talking about, who rely upon historical facts and real events.
Is that so?

Let's revisit a previous post of yours:
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America's problems with the Arab world have everything to do with our historic defense of Israel, from the Cold War to the present day
Is that right? Is that why Jefferson sent his navy to crush the arab states?

It seems I know more about your own culture than you do. You're a disgrace to your own country.
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tha Professor wrote:
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We're not the types to laugh at oppression of a subject people by hypocritical crypto-Nazis, it's true. A character flaw, I suppose.
Maybe not, but you are undeniably hypocritical scum when it comes to furthering your antisemitic agenda.

Well, I say maybe not, if Israel got wiped off the map tomorrow, you'd be dancing in the streets. Despite 20% of Israels population being arab.

The needs of the few..... right leftie.
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Where have I attacked Jews, Israel and Zionism? That post you cite has to do with US policy and the United States' difficulties with the Arab world. It's a matter of historical fact. It doesn't opine on whether we have been right or wrong to defend Israel, you putz. You have proven with your most recent post that you are unreasonable and, indeed, not very capable of intelligent discussion.(Moreover, I have had many years of experience in US Foreign Policy in the Middle East and, because of the nature of my previous work, am not free to express publicly my opinions--pro-Israel or anti-Israel. I am, however, permitted to state historical fact, which I have done) The major original source of the difficulties that the United States has had since the end of WWII is our support of the state of Israel. It's similar to saying that the primary source of US difficulties with Nazi Germany stemmed from the Roosevelt Administration's support of Britain. I realize that you are one of those bloviating bigots that come on here to prove to the world how knowledgeable they are, when in fact they tend to know very little that's relevant to the topic or that otherwise matters at all. I'm done.
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(Moreover, I have had many years of experience in US Foreign Policy in the Middle East and, because of the nature of my previous work, am not free to express publicly my opinions--pro-Israel or anti-Israel. I am, however, permitted to state historical fact, which I have done) The major original source of the difficulties that the United States has had since the end of WWII is our support of the state of Israel.
Ah, you obviously work for the obama administration then.
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Ah, you obviously work for the obama administration then.
I wasn't a political appointee. 1985-2003. You plug in the identities of the four administrations those years include--the names of the four presidents whose official photos hung successively upon my office wall. You should seriously consider the possibility that your assumptions are not always on the money.
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You should seriously consider the possibility that your assumptions are not always on the money.
And you should consider that a "slimey limey" like me, and other derogatory terms I've been called in this thread, has a vested interest in what happens in the US government. From an outside perspective, at least.

I blame your type, if you are what you claim to be (doubtful), for the benghazi attacks.

Israel is an ally of the west, islam isn't. History proves it, time and time again.

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