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80s Child

Bristol, UK

#1 Feb 11, 2013
Was talking to a friend who is a PE teacher in a UK school the other day and he said very few schools insist on showers after PE lessons these days.

In my day they were compulsory and naked.

Does it go on at all now? I hated it!
Katie Mellish

UK

#2 Feb 11, 2013
80s Child wrote:
Was talking to a friend who is a PE teacher in a UK school the other day and he said very few schools insist on showers after PE lessons these days.
In my day they were compulsory and naked.
Does it go on at all now? I hated it!
To 80s child hello school showers were Never compulsory it was taken for granted that they were.That is true what you have said very few schools insist on showers today after pe.If they insist on it they are breaking the human rights act and could and would face court action.I myself hated school showers but at my school we only had them up to the age of 12.I still hated them,though there is no need for them in this day and age and to be honest there never was.Ps some schools that do have showers allowe children to cover up in the shower,but if a parent says no showers the school cannot make that child have a shower-simple as that.
Katie Mellish

UK

#3 Feb 11, 2013
80s Child wrote:
Was talking to a friend who is a PE teacher in a UK school the other day and he said very few schools insist on showers after PE lessons these days.
In my day they were compulsory and naked.
Does it go on at all now? I hated it!
To 80s child hello again at my old school we never had showers after PE we had them after games,but not always infact i put more effort into dodging the showers than what i would have put in having one.But when i did have one i just walked in and walked out my hair was almost dry when i came out of them.Shower dodgers of all lands unite-Katie Mellish.
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#4 Feb 11, 2013
Read this B 4-- what is/was so bad about showers after a w/o or game in HS ?
Katie Mellish

UK

#5 Feb 12, 2013
To Coyote hello i have said this before children do not like being naked outside the house or in front of non close family members.And at puberty children hate being naked in front of other people period.When your body is reaching sexual maturity your body is your own,puberty is a private thing and you do not want other people to see your developing adult body.
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#6 Feb 12, 2013
uhhh- OK- thanx
Bob

Dorval, Canada

#7 Feb 13, 2013
When I first had to take a shower with my fellow students in grade seven, I was nervous, but after the first time, nudity was a non-issue, and all or most of us had a great time.
It was an easy way to learn that all bodies are different, and normal, and there's nothing to be ashamed of.
I think taking PE, and NOT showering and putting clean clothes on is disgusting.
One caveat: children probably don't need showers these days after PE because they probable don't even break a sweat in PE, or don't even have PE.
What a shame.
80s Child

Bristol, UK

#8 Feb 14, 2013
Yes, I was nervous the first time as well, i still recall losing sleep the night before! It did get easier with time. I agree that students should shower after PE, but swim trunks or something should be an option of they are shy.

Would be curious to know if there are still students who have to go through the ritual these days. My guess is not many, as my friend said. Modern sensibilities probably preclude it.
Katie Mellish

London, UK

#9 Feb 15, 2013
80s Child wrote:
Yes, I was nervous the first time as well, i still recall losing sleep the night before! It did get easier with time. I agree that students should shower after PE, but swim trunks or something should be an option of they are shy.
Would be curious to know if there are still students who have to go through the ritual these days. My guess is not many, as my friend said. Modern sensibilities probably preclude it.
tO 80s child hello there are not many schools that do these days and them that do swimming trunks and swim suits are an option.Schools do not want to face any type of court action reguarding child nudity.Times change and thank G.d they do.
Lord Byron

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Feb 15, 2013
Katie Mellish wrote:
To Coyote hello i have said this before children do not like being naked outside the house or in front of non close family members.And at puberty children hate being naked in front of other people period.When your body is reaching sexual maturity your body is your own,puberty is a private thing and you do not want other people to see your developing adult body.
Well, I agree about the modesty among adolescents part, but I do see the need for a nude shower after class.
I recently read a blog post from a woman pe teacher who caught all kinds of flack from the parents of her students for requiring a nude shower after class. She had been getting complaints from other teachers who taught her girls in the next hour. The more polite commentary was that exuded an odor not distinctly different from that of a week old dead goat. When you sweat, bacteria grows on your skin, producing that “flowery” scent. Not to mention the skin diseases it encourages. She said that once she patiently explained this to the parents, they concurred and their daughters took nude showers after class.
I had to do this, as did the girls those days, and while I didn’t enjoy it, I never the less put up with it as a simple hygienic necessity. What I did find unforgiveable was the egregious, thoroughly unjustified, mandatory nude swimming that millions of males in my age group experienced. There was no reason for it, no logic to it, and it left me and a lot of others humiliated, and even now (45 years later) desirous of revenge upon those bastards who forced it upon me.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#11 Feb 15, 2013
Lord Byron wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I agree about the modesty among adolescents part, but I do see the need for a nude shower after class.
I recently read a blog post from a woman pe teacher who caught all kinds of flack from the parents of her students for requiring a nude shower after class. She had been getting complaints from other teachers who taught her girls in the next hour. The more polite commentary was that exuded an odor not distinctly different from that of a week old dead goat. When you sweat, bacteria grows on your skin, producing that “flowery” scent. Not to mention the skin diseases it encourages. She said that once she patiently explained this to the parents, they concurred and their daughters took nude showers after class.
I had to do this, as did the girls those days, and while I didn’t enjoy it, I never the less put up with it as a simple hygienic necessity. What I did find unforgiveable was the egregious, thoroughly unjustified, mandatory nude swimming that millions of males in my age group experienced. There was no reason for it, no logic to it, and it left me and a lot of others humiliated, and even now (45 years later) desirous of revenge upon those bastards who forced it upon me.
I have commented on this subject on another thread on this forum. There were, in fact, explanations that were proffered, all of which were piffle. Here is a link to my comment. It's item #40 on the page.

http://www.topix.com/forum/education/TV5C3Q72...
Katie Mellish

UK

#12 Feb 15, 2013
Lord Byron wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I agree about the modesty among adolescents part, but I do see the need for a nude shower after class.
I recently read a blog post from a woman pe teacher who caught all kinds of flack from the parents of her students for requiring a nude shower after class. She had been getting complaints from other teachers who taught her girls in the next hour. The more polite commentary was that exuded an odor not distinctly different from that of a week old dead goat. When you sweat, bacteria grows on your skin, producing that “flowery” scent. Not to mention the skin diseases it encourages. She said that once she patiently explained this to the parents, they concurred and their daughters took nude showers after class.
I had to do this, as did the girls those days, and while I didn’t enjoy it, I never the less put up with it as a simple hygienic necessity. What I did find unforgiveable was the egregious, thoroughly unjustified, mandatory nude swimming that millions of males in my age group experienced. There was no reason for it, no logic to it, and it left me and a lot of others humiliated, and even now (45 years later) desirous of revenge upon those bastards who forced it upon me.
To SLC hello i think some people forget the Rights Of Man-No body has the right to break another mans freedom of thought or their ideas.And that no man shall force upon another man their rule.QED-Katie Mellish xxx.
coyote

Dartmouth, Canada

#13 Feb 16, 2013
Profound statements of Rights -Katie ! however: I do question what role the purported ideology you promote in fact plays with low self esteem, infatuation with "perfect physical specimens`via advertising, starvation diets etc.of which young ladies seem to be victims and I feel it is due to lack of communal exposure at an important age. Other than the role of hygiene, my present (not fixed in stone)thought is such participation helps make people aware they are not "imperfect" but are normal yet may see things they may aspire to reach via exercise, proper diet etc. Understanding the reality of situations, instead of avoiding same, has to be a posi----not a neggie......jest sayin'..One would never know how fine an archer until one goes to an archery to observe others rather than judging by the "ultimate archers" conveyed via movies, olympics, national tournaments etc.---....
Katie Mellish

UK

#14 Feb 19, 2013
coyote wrote:
Profound statements of Rights -Katie ! however: I do question what role the purported ideology you promote in fact plays with low self esteem, infatuation with "perfect physical specimens`via advertising, starvation diets etc.of which young ladies seem to be victims and I feel it is due to lack of communal exposure at an important age. Other than the role of hygiene, my present (not fixed in stone)thought is such participation helps make people aware they are not "imperfect" but are normal yet may see things they may aspire to reach via exercise, proper diet etc. Understanding the reality of situations, instead of avoiding same, has to be a posi----not a neggie......jest sayin'..One would never know how fine an archer until one goes to an archery to observe others rather than judging by the "ultimate archers" conveyed via movies, olympics, national tournaments etc.---....
To Coyote hello my sweetheart i will answer you back on this one tomorrow maybe its 10 past 3 in the morning now and its half term.So lots to do with my children now there off school-takecare Katie Mellish xxxxxxxx.
Pete Singleton

Newport Pagnell, UK

#15 Mar 28, 2014
A typical PE lesson in the UK from the 1980's.

Outdoors - Basically a football kit in winter, studded boots, shorts and shirt. Football, rugby or a strenuous cross country run. These were the options between September and March. Regardless of whether you liked them or were poor at them, you did them. You showered afterwards without exception, and naked in a communal open shower. Everybody at once.

Indoors - All year round was basically the same two options. In the sport hall with a game of basketball/indoor football or fitness testing, trainers, white shorts and a vest. Often during a team game event half the class would be instructed to lose the vest, or be a "skin". In the gym the kit was simpler. White shorts only. No footwear and no tops at any time. Barefoot and barechested for all. Showers remained compulsory afterwards regardless of how clean and unsweaty anyone appeared.

Class sizes were average of 28 to 32.

Incredibly we even had a film crew from a school's television educational programme in one day, filming many aspects of school life across the board, and when it came to filming PE they comprehensively filmed a gym lesson, a sports hall lesson and an outdoor football and cross country lesson, complete with cameras waiting in the changing room as lesson ended and everyone showered naked. There was even a camera pointing at the entrance to the communal shower that filmed a class of boys aged about 14/15 all coming out, which was later broadcast on TV, without any parental consent! they weren't even given an option of privacy.How times have changed since just as recent as 1985 that such things would happen without question.
Anon

Dorval, Canada

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Dorval, Canada

#20 May 10, 2014
In keeping with the ethos of rigorous physical exercise, in earlier days as a PE teacher in Pittsburg, I was very robust in my application of corporal punishment to pupils who misbehaved. The favourite implement in the Quaker State was the Pennsylvania Paddle. A well-polished, 12" paddle of eastern butternut (or butt-nut), with a finish of Maltese cypress oil, applied vigorously to a bottom, clad only in thin cotton shorts, would bring tears to the eyes of even the most hardened miscreant! Six whacks would leave the bottom stinging for several hours. Another ad hoc implement often pressed into service was a skipping rope doubled to form a sort of whip.
I always administered corporal punishment in PE in the touching-toes position. Bare bottom spanking was popular, especially when given in front of the girls of the class. For a harder and more lengthy punishment, PE equipment such as a vaulting-buck or vaulting horse was useful.
Since justice must not only be done, but must be seen to be done, I whipped my own son extra hard to avoid any accusations of preferential treatment.

Since: May 14

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#22 May 22, 2014
We went shirtless for b-ball games and so forth, but no one ever did gym in their undies.
Nudity was for the pool!
double jeopardy winner

Pineda, Spain

#23 May 23, 2014
I am in Europe with Bob fighting for effective protection in sport to ensure no person´s human rights are ever infringed again. We are using the European Elections to get a directive passed to ban communal showers europe wide in educational institutions and make it mandatory for males to wear shirts in gym class and rash vests-wet suits for swimming. It is time we ended the tyranny of Maltamon and his side kick Phil who still hold on to the past grammar school- dartmouth university ways!
Phil

UK

#24 May 23, 2014
double jeopardy winner wrote:
I am in Europe with Bob fighting for effective protection in sport to ensure no person´s human rights are ever infringed again. We are using the European Elections to get a directive passed to ban communal showers europe wide in educational institutions and make it mandatory for males to wear shirts in gym class and rash vests-wet suits for swimming. It is time we ended the tyranny of Maltamon and his side kick Phil who still hold on to the past grammar school- dartmouth university ways!
DJW, you are a tragic, deluded, silly excuse for a man and you are going nowhere, achieving nothing and will always be a nobody.

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