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Have You Noticed That Radical Muslims and Gays Are Both Controlled By Their Sex Drives?

There are 253 comments on the Free Republic story from Jul 21, 2013, titled Have You Noticed That Radical Muslims and Gays Are Both Controlled By Their Sex Drives?. In it, Free Republic reports that:

The human sex drive is the third most powerful force that exists in human beings, after thirst and hunger.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#204 Aug 3, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Who said all hetero marriages are invalidated? I only said that FIFTY percent fail. Your comparing that to child molesting is strange. When all else fails, I note, you guys run to that old stereotype.
I just wonder why you ignore the dismal failure of so many hetero marriages, yet think you own the lofty holy privilege, but choose to disallow those who are desperate for the pleasure. That makes no sense and is just mean.
You invalidated the marriages that don't fail because of the ones that do.

Who says I ignore divorce? You don't know me.

If you want to discuss divorce, go on a discussion site that does so. I will continue to engage this discussion.

Moreover, these issues directly affect marriage and family. I have devoted my life to working in that area. You don't get to choose which are valid, especially for another person.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#205 Aug 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Your monogamy notion is possible, however it still does not demonstrate any benefit to the species, as I said, it's inconsequential, the possible benefits and flaws neutralize each other. Our genes are still centered around communal breeding, ironically, the most successful species with dichotomous gender systems have the traits supporting such a habit of "mixing it up." The felines are some of the best examples of this.
Hence, the cross cultural constraint of marriage.

In fact, we are engaging in a huge social experiment that crosses traditional moral boundaries. Not just orientation boundaries but sexual boundaries among heterosexuals.

Has this happened in history before? What happened?

The Bible says a society is destroyed when that happens.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#206 Aug 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Marriage is relatively new for the species, it's a contract, a legal one dealing with property and inheritance ... and for it's entire existence it has been just that.
Please post reference for the time frame of marriage and it's limit to property and inheritance.

Just to clarify, children NEVER had anything to do with marriage?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#207 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Awe honey, I threw you for a loop!
Silly girl, there are a lot more famous gays than that.
But the question isn't can homosexuals be good or bad, it is whether or not homosexuality is a sexual defect.
Why does the issue always go to self acceptance. Any challenge is always personal. It betrays an inner fear. When you have the courage to fearlessly address that, you can deal with reality.
KittenKoder wrote:
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All sexuality restricted to dichotomous gender systems is defective, straight or gay, does not matter, the fact that homosexuals cannot reproduce is a flaw in the reproductive system, not in the homosexuals, in everyone.
Your response had nothing to do with my post.

Moreover, you just suggested that the reproductive system is faulty in all heterosexuals because homosexuals can't reproduce.

But not just in humans, in EVERY species that employs male/female.

This is after billions of years of evolutionary refinement. How did life survive???

LOL

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#208 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
.........
Moreover, you just suggested that the reproductive system is faulty in all heterosexuals because homosexuals can't reproduce.
But not just in humans, in EVERY species that employs male/female.
This is after billions of years of evolutionary refinement. How did life survive???
LOL
And gay folks are either male or female. Not a surprise.

Don't worry, there are enough straight people fornicating left and right, and creating more than enough offspring to keep the world filled with humanity. If a few gay folks either don't procreate, choose to procreate responsibly, or choose to raise the unwanted children of the fornicating heterosexuals, it's just fine.

It's one of the reasons that God made us, you know. When you folks make more children than you can raise, someone has to step up.

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#209 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Hence, the cross cultural constraint of marriage.
...
That restraint just isn't restraining much, is it? With the stats on unwed parenthood and divorce from cheating, you can't really make this argument without laughter.

Fortunately, those who value marriage know that it is not a "restraint on mating behavior". It's so much more.

And it is all of those wonderful things for gay couples and their families, too.

Learn to accept it.

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#210 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The reference I gave addressed marriage and evolutionary mating behavior. Do you have a reference that counters that?
Put up, or shut up.
Pick a random sampling of 1000 happily married straight couples and ask them if the primary reason they married was to "restrain their mating behavior".

The answers ought to be fun.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#211 Aug 3, 2013
Your response had nothing to do with my post.

Moreover, you just suggested that the reproductive system is faulty in all heterosexuals because homosexuals can't reproduce.

But not just in humans, in EVERY species that employs male/female.

This is after billions of years of evolutionary refinement. How did life survive???

LOL
Quest wrote:
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And gay folks are either male or female. Not a surprise.
Don't worry, there are enough straight people fornicating left and right, and creating more than enough offspring to keep the world filled with humanity. If a few gay folks either don't procreate, choose to procreate responsibly, or choose to raise the unwanted children of the fornicating heterosexuals, it's just fine.
It's one of the reasons that God made us, you know. When you folks make more children than you can raise, someone has to step up.
Too funny.

You make a dump claim, I expose it,

you shift and make another dumb claim, I expose it,

so you shift and make another dumb claim.

Honey,

Males and females engage sexually just fine. It's the redumbancy of homosexual sex that is the problem.

Moreover, homosexual couples NEVER mutually procreate.

This is why marriage needs protection NOT to procreate, but gay couples never need protection from procreation, just to HAVE sex.

Your concern for unwanted children does not stem from marriage, it stems from immorality. The cross cultural restraint of marriage is specifically there because of children, and nothing else.

Mating behavior encourages promiscuity. Homosexuality is a defect of mating behavior.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#212 Aug 3, 2013
Quest wrote:
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That restraint just isn't restraining much, is it? With the stats on unwed parenthood and divorce from cheating, you can't really make this argument without laughter.
Fortunately, those who value marriage know that it is not a "restraint on mating behavior". It's so much more.
And it is all of those wonderful things for gay couples and their families, too.
Learn to accept it.
Let me get this straight...

You diss marriage, so you can justify duplicate gender couples enjoying the wonderful things of marriage?

Moreover, you claim a orientation that has significantly more pronounced issues with promiscuity and commitment will ENHANCE marriage???

Do you think about what you write???

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#213 Aug 3, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Pick a random sampling of 1000 happily married straight couples and ask them if the primary reason they married was to "restrain their mating behavior".
The answers ought to be fun.
I think you'd agree that most couples hook up because of sexual interest.

Guess what mating behavior is about?
Mikey

Fullerton, CA

#214 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I think you'd agree that most couples hook up because of sexual interest.
Guess what mating behavior is about?
Boy, you're just spreading your bigotry all over these forums aren't you POS? You're not 'saving' traditional marriage, all you're doing is spreading hate, you're sick get help..

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#215 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I think you'd agree that most couples hook up because of sexual interest.
Guess what mating behavior is about?
Most couples hook up in marriage because they are mutually attracted, and, yes, sex is a lovely part of that. This is the same for gay couples, and straight couples - no difference.

But marriage is not required before having sex, and sex is not required in a marriage.

Your arguments that the primary reason and concern for any marriage is to CONTROL sex just falls waaay short.

And you know it.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#216 Aug 3, 2013
Mikey wrote:
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Boy, you're just spreading your bigotry all over these forums aren't you POS? You're not 'saving' traditional marriage, all you're doing is spreading hate, you're sick get help..
What 'hate' are you talking about?

Otherwise, you just posted a gay troll attack.

Hateful.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#217 Aug 3, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Most couples hook up in marriage because they are mutually attracted, and, yes, sex is a lovely part of that. This is the same for gay couples, and straight couples - no difference.
But marriage is not required before having sex, and sex is not required in a marriage.
Your arguments that the primary reason and concern for any marriage is to CONTROL sex just falls waaay short.
And you know it.
So mating behavior is fundamentally involved.

Where did I make any claim that marriage is required for sex? That's silly stupid. In fact I've consistently and accurately posted that the cross cultural constraint of marriage is to address the consequences of natural sex.

I'd suggest you study up on human mating behavior.

Here is a place to start;

http://www.psy.cmu.edu/
~rakison/bussandschmitt.pdf

"Mating is a human universal. All known societies have formal marriage alliances between MEN AND WOMEN (emphasis added). More than 90% of all people in all societies marry at some point in their lives. In a cross cultural perspective, marriages are usually regarded as formal reproductive alliances (NOTE THE TIE-IN WITH CHILD BIRTH) that contain the features of (a) mutual obligation between husband and wife (NOTE THE GENDER DIVERSITY)(b) rights of sexual access (c) an expectation that marriage will persist through pregnancy, lactation, and child rearing and (d), and recognition of the legitimate status of the couple's children."

“I Am No One Else”

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#218 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Hence, the cross cultural constraint of marriage.
In fact, we are engaging in a huge social experiment that crosses traditional moral boundaries. Not just orientation boundaries but sexual boundaries among heterosexuals.
Has this happened in history before? What happened?
The Bible says a society is destroyed when that happens.
There you go again, interjecting your religious mythology into the discussion.

“I Am No One Else”

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#220 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I think you'd agree that most couples hook up because of sexual interest.
Guess what mating behavior is about?
Mating behavior is about genetically controlled attractions which vary from organism to organism. Some attractions benefit the organism by allowing it to keep it's genetic material in the species, other attractions, specifically same sex ones, benefit the organism by creating bonds which can prove useful in social interactions. Some are detrimental to the organism, such as an attraction to plastic, most are inconsequential, such as an attraction to only light haired members of the species, for humans .... other animals this can have a major impact.

What was your stupid question again?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

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#221 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So mating behavior is fundamentally involved.
Where did I make any claim that marriage is required for sex? That's silly stupid. In fact I've consistently and accurately posted that the cross cultural constraint of marriage is to address the consequences of natural sex.
I'd suggest you study up on human mating behavior.
Here is a place to start;
http://www.psy.cmu.edu/
~rakison/bussandschmitt.pdf
"Mating is a human universal. All known societies have formal marriage alliances between MEN AND WOMEN (emphasis added). More than 90% of all people in all societies marry at some point in their lives. In a cross cultural perspective, marriages are usually regarded as formal reproductive alliances (NOTE THE TIE-IN WITH CHILD BIRTH) that contain the features of (a) mutual obligation between husband and wife (NOTE THE GENDER DIVERSITY)(b) rights of sexual access (c) an expectation that marriage will persist through pregnancy, lactation, and child rearing and (d), and recognition of the legitimate status of the couple's children."
So, as a species we said one thing, now we're finding that was a flaw and correcting it. It's time for you to evolve like the rest of us, or go extinct like the dinosaurs did.
Mikey

Fullerton, CA

#222 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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What 'hate' are you talking about?
Otherwise, you just posted a gay troll attack.
Hateful.
You know what hate I'm talking about, you do it day after day. You deserve any negative comments you get.

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#223 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Let me get this straight...
You diss marriage, so you can justify duplicate gender couples enjoying the wonderful things of marriage?
Moreover, you claim a orientation that has significantly more pronounced issues with promiscuity and commitment will ENHANCE marriage???
Do you think about what you write???
You silly thing. I'm dissing YOU, never marriage. I value my own marriage too much for that.

But I don't look to my marriage to control me. I control how I live within my marriage.

Your whole "duplicate gender" thing is foolish, of course, since straight folks are only attracted to the opposite gender, and gay folks are only attracted to the same gender. of course will select people we are attracted to as life mates - it's only sensible, and that's a srtaigth thing as well as a gay thing.

The nice thing is that my marriage doesn't harm you, or your vows, in any way.

As to promiscuity, straight folks have cornered the market, but we don't penalize all of you for what the majority do. Your can still marry. You can even marry ten times if you like, while cheating on each and every spouse along the way.

It's your choice how to live. Are you really trying to say that gay folks will cause even MORE children to be born out of wedlock? Are you saying that gay married folks can do any worse than straight folks already do, when it comes to marriage fidelity?

Please ...try a little rationality.

Each of us has to decide the value and weight we place on marriage vows. My orientation has just as much (and as little) effect on that as yours does.

However, even YOU have to admit that it's a absurd to try to deny gay folks the right to marry, while repeatedly telling all gay youth that marriage is out of the question, and then complain that too many gay people seem to just "hook up".

Geesh.

You are trying to intentionally create the very thing you are complaining about.

Fortunately, a great many gay folks aren't listening to your message, and are now in lovely marriages.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#224 Aug 3, 2013
Mikey wrote:
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You know what hate I'm talking about, you do it day after day. You deserve any negative comments you get.
Wow, not one.

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