Did You Swim Nude In High School?
bill

Portland, IN

#1265 May 26, 2014
There were rumors in my school about gym coaches who would paddle bare butt boys who were in the locker room wearing only their jockey straps, but I never actually saw it done.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#1266 May 27, 2014
Fortunately corporal punishment was not allowed in my
state.

I can imagine that a gym coach who likes to look at naked boys
would not mind paddling a bare arse.
LDA

Reno, NV

#1267 May 28, 2014
Winlow C Flydipper wrote:
I’ve seen so many posts on this subject, and the way they’ve been subverted, that I’m hesitant to try again, but here goes, trolls and loonies never the less.
I was in junior high and high school in the early to late 60s in Illinois. Boys (but not girls) were required to swim nude. No explanation, we just had to do it.(Being pre disposed to dislike humiliation, I hated it.) Every male in my age group (early 60s) reported he did the same thing.
It seems to have been universal, yet I read where some people claim they’ve never heard of it. I’m trying to find out how wide spread and how long ago this practice persisted. So, what I’d like is for the male persons (I presume girls didn’t do this, but if any of you did, you’re free to post also) to answer just the following questions:
Your sex?
Did you swim nude in high school or junior high school?
What years?
The city and state where this took place.
That’s all. Although if you wish to add a few lines, go ahead, but the point is to get an idea when and where this happened and discourage nuts by limiting the verbiage. As an addendum, and I hesitate to do this because I can already here the trolls cranking up, if your instructor was (even only on occasion or just once) of the opposite sex, mention this. I’ve heard these reports, and thought them only fantasies, but I know a woman who taught swimming to males who were bereft of clothing, so I thought I might ask if anyone else experienced this.
I’ve only read a few reports of girls’ nude swim classes, but if any of you female persons had a nude swim class in school, let me know also.
I am having a voodoo practitioner put a spell on this discussion. If any trolls try to post any crap in an attempt to derail it, your genitals will immediately shrivel down to the size of a peanut and fall off. If they haven’t already.
What nonsense about voodoo and such! I never swam nude in high school but in the 1950s at the YMCA we all swam nude - it was all male. Nude swimming is natural and healthy. Too bad we don't have all-male clubs today
LDA

Reno, NV

#1268 May 28, 2014
bill wrote:
There were rumors in my school about gym coaches who would paddle bare butt boys who were in the locker room wearing only their jockey straps, but I never actually saw it done.
I never witnessed this, but I was told by a boy who went to a private boys' school that coaches would paddle guys (who wore only jock straps and shoes in the gym) if they got out of line. Not very often, but it happened occasionally.
In those days paddling was legal at almost all schools, public and private.
LDA

Reno, NV

#1269 May 28, 2014
jm1983j wrote:
The water polo ball story is true, actually
At the old Y in the 50s and 60s they sometimes played water polo, but they usually wore the narrow-band swimming supporters and nothing else. For regular swims it was all-nude. The lifeguards - most of whom were college men - just wore tank tops that said STAFF.
MaltaMon

Emmaus, PA

#1271 Jun 6, 2014
jm1983j wrote:
Fortunately corporal punishment was not allowed in my
state.
I can imagine that a gym coach who likes to look at naked boys
would not mind paddling a bare arse.
DJW: How would literally ANY American know that the above was not written by an American? You're an idiot.
MaltaMon

Medford, NJ

#1272 Jun 6, 2014
I'll bet you don't know, DJ, or you wouldn't have written "his" post as a BRIT would.
Phil

Manchester, UK

#1274 Jun 6, 2014
Djw wrote:
<quoted text>
JM1983J always published from a hidden location but you chased him off this forum just like you did Rush, 40 Something and SLC. I can understand you not liking me because like BOB I fight for child protection and privacy from intrusion by the state but what you have done to your fellow Americans are worthy of the worst atrocities since the battle of Bunker Hill and Yorktown.
http://www.pioneerschools.org/Page/449
Pioneer School History
-by Jeff Mason, Arcade Town Historian, Pioneer Class of 66
Starting in Arcade in 1811, schools have existed for 190 years in what is now the Pioneer district. In time, most towns had a dozen or more school districts, since the schools had to be located close enough for the students to walk.
These early schools were poorly funded and very primitive. The rare student who desired secondary education would have to go out of the area to obtain it until 1863, when the private Arcade Academy opened on the site of the present elementary school. In 1870, this became a public union free school, with its first three graduates receiving their diplomas in 1887. By 1900, union free schools had also been formed in Sardinia, Delevan, Freedom, and Machias.
To prepare for the opening of the new school, Delevan's Buzz Chaddock was named athletic director, and Arcade teacher Ray Cenni was selected as assistant principal. Support staff members prepared for the challenge of moving into a building that was not nearly complete on opening day. Students had to bring their lunches until the cafeteria was ready, boxes had to be emptied, and several classes were held in hallways until classrooms were completed.
For seventh-graders and seniors alike, entering this school was a whole new experience. The Class of 1970 in particular faced the challenge of turning two junior classes into one senior class, and to ease the transition the class had two sets of officers and advisors.
Sports teams, musical ensembles and clubs from the two buildings had to be merged into one, and two faculties had to work as one.
The first year was certainly not without its difficulties, but they were offset by the spacious classrooms, the large gymnasium, and a swimming pool. Even the pool caused a controversy just before school opened, when it was announced that boys in phys ed classes would swim in the nude.
That proposal was soon modified.
AND LEST WE FORGET THE MALTAMON AND HIS LAPDOG PHIL WERE DEFEATED AT DISTRICT LEVEL UNDER THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER!
"....like BOB I fight for child protection and privacy"

How do you and Bob do this?
In your own words, just this once.
Phil

Manchester, UK

#1277 Jun 6, 2014
Djw wrote:
<quoted text>
The eventual decision to require swim trunks might have been the result of increasing concerns over discrimination that started to bubble up in the 50&#8242;s and ’60s about other things, notably race and eventually gender bias. Since only the boys had to swim nude, it was the male gender that was being disadvantaged. I really don’t know with certainty why the course changed. Surely it didn’t end all at once everywhere that it was happening in the USA.
Nor must anyone who required male nudity have considered the excruciating circumstance it must have created for gay teens at a time before the word “gay” meant anything but being jolly — when custom permitted more pejorative and degrading names for those kids who had a predilection for same-sex relationships. And remember, teen-aged boys have enormous difficulty controlling the automatic arousal that can happen anytime, anywhere.
That reminds me of Mae West, a femme fatale of early talking movies. She commented to an attractive male,“Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?” But I’ll tell you from personal experience that erections often happen to 16-year-old males at the most inopportune moments. I find it rather ironic, in light of the overwhelming number of commercials for middle-aged men with problems of sexual performance these days.
To end, here’s a story that I was told by someone who saw it happen in another CPS High School swim class at a different school. Doubtless it wasn’t the only one of its kind. The teacher wanted someone to demonstrate the back float. The first couple of kids were chosen at random, but couldn’t manage the task, frustrating the instructor.“Hey Murray, you’re the best swimmer here, show these guys how it is done,” he finally barked. Murray did his stalwart best and did, indeed, display the ideal back float form for the 30 or so fellow-students assembled around him.
There was only one problem for good-old Murray. In the middle of everything, the poor Murray-meister had an erection that popped up like the opening of a switchblade, automatic knife. No sooner did it appear, than one of the class wags yelled out,“Up periscope, Murray!
In your own words was obviously too much of a stretch for such an inadequate waste of chemicals like you, DJW and all the chemicals you have been spilling over your keyboard while you trawl the net looking for ANY menton of child nudity or their PE kit has pickled your underdeveloped brain.
I was asking too much from one who is clearly as thick as pig shit.
It was a question aimed at a grown up but I should have known you wouldn't have the intelligence or maturity to respond accordingly.
Seven threads you have posted (sorry, copied the work of others) in so far in one night.
Such an exciting life you lead.
All this 'campaigning' from your bedroom must be so tiring.
All those education authorities, all those policy makers and politicians will be on Topix lappng up your every word and changng their rules and procedures as you write (sorry, copy).
Phil

Manchester, UK

#1279 Jun 7, 2014
Djw wrote:
<quoted text>
No Phil I am a heavy weight intellectual dedicated to child privacy in all American schools and across the world. I am opposed to military style enforced nudity in all school pools. Only I can prevent the state of Michigan from forcing pupils to show their 8 inches in front of the school life guard.
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/mde/Swim_Gu...
A swimming pool owner shall ensure that a person who has any of the following
medical conditions is excluded from a swimming pool, except that the person may be
granted use of a swimming pool upon written determination by the department, a
personal physician, or a local health officer that the condition will not affect the
health of other persons using the pool:
a) An infectious or communicable disease.
b) A possibly infectious condition, such as a cold, skin eruption, or open blister.
(2) A swimming pool owner or his or her representative may require a person who uses
a swimming pool to take a cleansing shower before entering the swimming pool
enclosure.
(3) A swimming pool owner shall ensure that the bathing apparel worn in a swimming
pool is clean.
(4) A person shall not spit in, or otherwise pollute, swimming pool water or related
facilities.
(5) A swimming pool owner shall ensure that running or boisterous or rough play is not
permitted in a swimming pool enclosure or bathhouse.
(6) A swimming pool owner shall ensure that a person wearing street clothes or shoes is
not permitted in a swimming pool.
Join me Phil it is your destiny. Only I can stop the Malta Monster!
"No Phil I am a heavy weight intellectual"

And then you woke up.
Still inadequate as a man.
Still a failure in all that you do and are.
Still delusional, still queer and still as thick as pig shit.
Bob

Mont-saint-hilaire, Canada

#1281 Jun 7, 2014
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
In your own words was obviously too much of a stretch for such an inadequate waste of chemicals like you, DJW and all the chemicals you have been spilling over your keyboard while you trawl the net looking for ANY menton of child nudity or their PE kit has pickled your underdeveloped brain.
I was asking too much from one who is clearly as thick as pig shit.
It was a question aimed at a grown up but I should have known you wouldn't have the intelligence or maturity to respond accordingly.
Seven threads you have posted (sorry, copied the work of others) in so far in one night.
Such an exciting life you lead.
All this 'campaigning' from your bedroom must be so tiring.
All those education authorities, all those policy makers and politicians will be on Topix lappng up your every word and changng their rules and procedures as you write (sorry, copy).
>...while you trawl the net looking for ANY menton of child nudity or their PE kit...."

As opposed to you Phil, who trawls the net looking for ANYTHING that djw and I have posted, which you call not worth reading or responding to, but read and respond you do.

"Seven threads you have posted" Al seven which have been read and responded to by Phil.

Hahahahahaha!

How pathetic is that?
Phil

UK

#1282 Jun 7, 2014
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
>...while you trawl the net looking for ANY menton of child nudity or their PE kit...."
As opposed to you Phil, who trawls the net looking for ANYTHING that djw and I have posted, which you call not worth reading or responding to, but read and respond you do.
"Seven threads you have posted" Al seven which have been read and responded to by Phil.
Hahahahahaha!
How pathetic is that?
And right on cue Bob searches out my posts directed at others and feels the need to give us the benefit of his stupidity.
Obviously his mummy has not let him play out recently and he feels left out.
Bob

Mont-saint-hilaire, Canada

#1283 Jun 7, 2014
And right on cue Pedo Phil proves my point.

Obviously, he hasn't told his wife, hies CEO, his children, or his grandchild that he has been cruising topix again!

What a loser!
Hahahahaha!
WinlowCFlydipper

Cary, IL

#1284 Jun 7, 2014
Djw:

Your reference to homosexuality reminded me of some comments I’ve read on the subject of mandatory male nude swimming.
I think that the whole point behind it was not, as some believe, any one thing. I think of number of things, mainly of a sociological nature, combined to make it acceptable to force boys into nudity. The usual excuse of the fibers clogging the filters is so ludicrous as to bear no serious discussion.(Or should we conclude that boys’ swim suits couldn’t be made out of the same, magical, non-filter clogging material as the girls’?) In those days, pre women’s movement, no one would have taken seriously the notion of sexual equality. Indeed, the whole system, including the educational system, was geared toward turning out two distinct products—men, who would happily march off to war to fulfill LBJ’s (and later, Tricky Dicky’s) fantasies of a commie free Asia; and women, who would breed a perpetual line of future soldiers. To that primary end, we were treated, and considered, radically different. It was acceptable to subject boys to the kind of embarrassment of public nudity; we needed to learn to be tougher than that, after all. And it was equally unacceptable to do so to females, who were quite delicate and whose only interest in s-e-x was as concerns b-a-b-i-e-s.
I’ve done a lot of researching in newspaper archives on this matter, and I discovered there seems to be a subtext of this relating to homosexuality. You must remember that there was a time when the average American parent lived in abject fear that their apple cheeked young lad, or their angelic little princess might turn out to be a fudge packer or a twat licker. Being gay was a lot less fashionable then; it was feared and considered a pathology. One of the things I’ve seen in what few letters to the editor I can find on this subject relates to homosexuality. Some seemed to think the gays in a group of nude boys could be recognized and “weeded out” easily.(Apparently, they’d be the ones with the hard ons. As a teenager, I remember having absolutely no control over that part of my body, so why they think a kid with a boner would be gay is beyond me.) But some also thought, perhaps because males in general, and young ones especially, were considered sexually adventurous, that group nudity was some kind of therapy that took the novel thrill out it, thus allowing potential gay sex to lose its luster.(Imagine that, putting a group of boys in a manifestly homoerotic setting as a means to tarnish the homoerotic. Go figure)
You should remember that at that time, homosexuality wasn’t understood as a simple sexual orientation, but a genuine perversion, and one a person could choose. I think that fear, and the fact that we have moved past it, is part of the explanation for mandatory male nudity in the past, and its absence today.
MaltaMon

Claymont, DE

#1285 Jun 7, 2014
DJW is back to creating characters to converse with. Now he's resurrected "Winlow Flydipper". What I wish for you, casual readers, is that you never become so lonely as Britain's DJW. Especially at his age.
Bob

Mont-saint-hilaire, Canada

#1286 Jun 7, 2014
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
"....like BOB I fight for child protection and privacy"
How do you and Bob do this?
In your own words, just this once.
DJW and I both do much behind the scenes work on these cruciail issues, which security protocols prevent me from mentioning here. Being ex-intelligence operatives, much of our vital work at national and international levels is done in secret.
Bob

Mont-saint-hilaire, Canada

#1287 Jun 7, 2014
MaltaMon wrote:
DJW is back to creating characters to converse with. Now he's resurrected "Winlow Flydipper". What I wish for you, casual readers, is that you never become so lonely as Britain's DJW. Especially at his age.
But djw didn't create you or Pedo Phil, MaltaMon. You two losers are real flesh-and-blood A-holes, who lap up everything you can on nude swimming, bare bottom spanking, and communal showers for boys after PE. Of course you claim to be shocked by it all, and threaten to call the authorities, but you never do. If djw and myself left topix, you and Phil would have nothing to read, and would have to resort to sending each other jerk off stories by e-mail
I feel more sorrow for you, MaltaMon. I have no doubt that you could write some pretty steamy stuff for Phil (most of it based on actual experience), but you would get the short end of the stick. Phil's homewritten porn is probably as boring as Phil's posts.
I wouldn't be surprised that when you jerk off to anything written by Phil, he's so boring that your hand falls asleep.

Hahahahahahaha!
MaltaMon

Conshohocken, PA

#1291 Jun 13, 2014
Nobody actually had any questions, DJ. We all know exactly where you're coming from. Get a job.
MaltaMon

Hatfield, PA

#1293 Jun 15, 2014
And just when and where, and with what words, did I "apologize" for these people? As for marrying Phil, he and I ARE married. To WOMEN. You know, those creatures with breasts and without testicles? Ever hear of "women", DJ? Your mummy is one. Most men your age are attracted to them sexually and romantically. And enjoy their company. Now, that may shock you, DJ, but it's true. Sorry to disappoint you.
Phil

Godstone, UK

#1294 Jun 17, 2014
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
But djw didn't create you or Pedo Phil, MaltaMon. You two losers are real flesh-and-blood A-holes, who lap up everything you can on nude swimming, bare bottom spanking, and communal showers for boys after PE. Of course you claim to be shocked by it all, and threaten to call the authorities, but you never do. If djw and myself left topix, you and Phil would have nothing to read, and would have to resort to sending each other jerk off stories by e-mail
I feel more sorrow for you, MaltaMon. I have no doubt that you could write some pretty steamy stuff for Phil (most of it based on actual experience), but you would get the short end of the stick. Phil's homewritten porn is probably as boring as Phil's posts.
I wouldn't be surprised that when you jerk off to anything written by Phil, he's so boring that your hand falls asleep.
Hahahahahahaha!
"....threaten to call the authorities, but you never do"

I didn't threaten.
I did.
Believe it or not, it make no difference to me.
You say you don't find child abuse funny and that joking about such it isn't illegal.
It isn't normal either whichever way you try to excuse it and neither I nor Maltamon ever post such things but you will a have chance to yourself in good time.

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