Did You Swim Nude In High School?
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“The Devil Made Me Do It”
Since: Jun 09
#1 Dec 16, 2012
Ive seen so many posts on this subject, and the way theyve been subverted, that Im hesitant to try again, but here goes, trolls and loonies never the less.
I was in junior high and high school in the early to late 60s in Illinois. Boys (but not girls) were required to swim nude. No explanation, we just had to do it.(Being pre disposed to dislike humiliation, I hated it.) Every male in my age group (early 60s) reported he did the same thing.
It seems to have been universal, yet I read where some people claim theyve never heard of it. Im trying to find out how wide spread and how long ago this practice persisted. So, what Id like is for the male persons (I presume girls didnt do this, but if any of you did, youre free to post also) to answer just the following questions:
Did you swim nude in high school or junior high school?
The city and state where this took place.
Thats all. Although if you wish to add a few lines, go ahead, but the point is to get an idea when and where this happened and discourage nuts by limiting the verbiage. As an addendum, and I hesitate to do this because I can already here the trolls cranking up, if your instructor was (even only on occasion or just once) of the opposite sex, mention this. Ive heard these reports, and thought them only fantasies, but I know a woman who taught swimming to males who were bereft of clothing, so I thought I might ask if anyone else experienced this.
Ive only read a few reports of girls nude swim classes, but if any of you female persons had a nude swim class in school, let me know also.
I am having a voodoo practitioner put a spell on this discussion. If any trolls try to post any crap in an attempt to derail it, your genitals will immediately shrivel down to the size of a peanut and fall off. If they havent already.
#2 Dec 16, 2012
Pennsylvania. No pool in Jr High. High school pool opened in 1972, and wr were all required to take swimming for one of the two weekly phys ed periods throughout the ,'72-'73 school year. We didn't swim nude. At the start of each weekly session, each boy was issued a black nylon tank suit that he had to put on after a quick shower; the suit was more full-cut than a speedo and we returned it for laundering after each session. Classes were single-sex, as with all phys ed classes. For two of the academic year's quarters--the last two, as I recall--our swimming teacher was a female. That was when the local Catholic HS started using our pool regularly as part of its taxpayer-funded program. They added a teacher to the staff and shifted the teschers around. But we were all wearing suits, the required unsexy suits, including the teacher, and neither she nor the male instructor of the first semester was permitted in the locker room. The boys athletic director supervised us there, distributed and collected the swim suits. And no female students or other faculty of either sex ever used the pool during our class time. The instructors were all certified lifeguards, so nobody else was there. It was kind of boring with both instructors. Very glad the state required it at the time. along with Driver Ed The objective was safety. Very untittilating story. But that's exactly as it was. Once, the basketball team went skinny dipping in the pool after practice, and they were all suspended for three days, which included a forfeit of the next game and no Varsity letters. That very strict policy against nudity in my coeducational, urban public school is why I find some of the stories posted on here implausible. Most of them in fact. Yours is sensible.
#3 Dec 16, 2012
By "sensible" I mean that you ask rather than claim what you read is fact. Take it from me and from all the other real people on here: no female would ever have been permitted to teach pubescent and adolescent boys unless they had swim suits on.. Anything else is preposterous, incredible fantasy from fetishists. Just use your head: no school, no comnunity would have allowed it. "Oh, it was different back then," is not an explanation that is credible. I was there back then. And it WAS different, because boys showered and changed together, unlike many kids today in this country. Male teacher with naked boys? Okay. But never a female instructor. It would never have been an option. And, frankly, my friend, my genitals haven't shrunk from posting this. All the best to you.
#4 Dec 17, 2012
As I posted on the previous thread, we swam naked at Los Angeles High School in Los Angeles, Ca. in the years 1956 - 1958. At no time did any of the scenarios so popular amongst the CFNM aficionados occur. That is to say that no female teacher ever entered the pool area during boys swim classes, there were never any female life guards, all gym teachers were male, there were never any female spectators (or in fact any spectators) in the pool viewing stands (the pool was also used for swim meets) and all swim classes were single sex.
The practice ended in the early 1970s due to the school district losing a law suit brought by a parents group and a feminist group. The parents argued that requiring the boys to swim naked while the girls wore swim suits was a violation of Title IX because they weren't being treated equally. The feminist group argued that the policy discriminated against girls, thus violating Title IX, because it denied the use of the pool for 1/2 the available time. Instead of appealing the decision, the school district punted and instituted coed swim classes.
#5 Dec 18, 2012
Looks like it was a waste of time to reply to Flydipper. Oh well. The End.
#6 Dec 19, 2012
Another wishful CFNM fiction fetishist is born. Women NEVER supervised nude boys swim classes anywhere. EVER. PERIOD. Whoever this "woman" is he's referring to is nothing but another fraud and liar.
LOTS of people have researched this subject and none have EVER produced a shred of evidence that CFNM happened in any school.
Maltamon, looks like you've been duped again. "Winlow" is just another pervert looking for CFNM porn stories.
#7 Dec 19, 2012
3. high school only, mid-1970s, catholic all-boys school
4. Chicago, Illinois
5. no middle school, elementary was 1-8, high school was 9-12
Notes on the above: the YMCA was notorious for nude swimming. I frequented 3 YMCA's in my youth, and each one had suited swims only, no nudity.
So the practice must have ended at the Y before it ended in high schools.
#8 Dec 19, 2012
There has been much discussion on this site and others about about why the practice of mandatory nude swimming for boys in high schools that had indoor pools was the policy. They are bogus, for the most part. I posted this on another thread here but it is, perhaps instructive to repost it here.
1. The claim that fibers from boy's swim suits would clog the filters is piffle. The girls swam with swim suits made out of the same material and it would seem that this didn't cause any problem. It also didn't seem to cause a problem in schools that had outdoor pools and where the boys wore swim suits (remember, this is Southern California where folks can swim outdoors in January if the pool is heated).
2. The claim that the boys would store wet swim suits in their lockers which would lead to mildew is piffle. The school issued tank swim suits to the girls before every swimming session and collected them afterwards. The same thing could have been done relative to boys swim suits.
3. The claim that allowing the boys to wear swim suits would track dirt into the pool is piffle. They could have showered in the school issued swim suits, just as the girls did.
4. The claim that forcing the boys to swim naked would act as a deterrent to bad behavior, such as engaging in wrestling matches in the pool has, IMHO, some validity. The theory behind this claim is that teenage boys tend to engage in such behavior, whereas girls are less so inclined, which, from my, albeit limited experience, is not altogether unfounded. However, since there was, at all times, both a gym teacher and a lifeguard in attendance, it would seem that they would have been able to keep things under control (by the way, this was probably one reason why the girls wore swim suits because a male lifeguard supervised both classes). This didn't seem to be a problem when the high school went over to coed swim classes with suited boys, although maybe the presence of girls moderated the boys behavior.
5. Now we come to what, IMHO, was the real reason for this regulation, namely selective service aka the military draft. I think that the idea was that requiring the boys to swim naked with other boys would eliminate any tendency towards bashfulness and modesty, both of which would be counterproductive in military service. It may be a coincidence but it is telling that naked male swimming started to be phased out at the time that selective service was suspended in the early 1970s.
#9 Dec 19, 2012
Reposted from another thread on the education forum is a link to a post on another web site by a woman who reports that her father went to the same high school I did and swam naked during gym swim classes. Note that there is a comment near the end of the post from another individual who went to that high school and who also reports swimming naked.
"SO, I was kind of shocked to find out that it was standard course for the boys to swim nude during gym class when my dad attended L.A. High. The way my dad described it, there were two separate pool facilities for the girls and the boys. For whatever reason (can anyone explain this to me?) the guys all swam naked. Have I stated this enough times in this paragraph?!! Everyone was swimming without clothes!! At school!!!
My first question to my dad was,So did the girls do their swimming lessons in the nude as well? My dad (to his credit?) did not know the answer to that. I asked him tons of follow up questions and I guess that it wasnt that big of a deal back then and there was absolutely no way that anyone could get into or see into the pool area when these nude classes were in session. Can you imagine? My dad said that jumping off the diving board wasnt fun though. For another story about him skinny dipping, you will have to ask him in person ."
#10 Dec 19, 2012
I'm not duped. It is my way of eliciting more information before I declare openly what I believe is going on. Most of these guys,will hang themselves with their own words. Like the guy who posed as "normal", then went on to say that he saw his father's "dong" all the time, even through his wet skivvies. Gave himself away. Don't be so sure that I'm as gullible as I may seem, Censored. You are a bit quick to call me on that every time, but I want them to reveal more. That's all. You put someone on the defensive immediately, and everyone rallies round him. It turns very soon into just,an exchange of insults. Besides, there's a chance that I might be to quickquick to dismiss someone as a soul mate of Pedo Bob's or Coyote's or DJW's. I want them to show their cards so that everyone will get it... And to see the established fetishists swallow whole whatever they have to say.
#11 Dec 19, 2012
Whenever a woman is introduced, one who strolls in to a class of naked boys without anyone saying anything to her about it, you know that you're in Fetishist Fantasy Land. But this guy says he knows a woman who claims to have taught naked male adolescents. She could be the fetishist liar: the fantasy could be hers rather than his,, and maybe he takes for granted that she's telling the truth. Or perhaps he's the one with the fantasy, and the woman doesn't exist. Need more than what he has said to make that determination. But we both know that the tale, whether it is hers or his, is complete nonsense.
#12 Dec 19, 2012
But given this individual's screen name, all his ground rules, his facetious threat that nonetheless focuses on male , and, finally, his request for anecdotes and his failure to comment on them, I'm tempted to conclude, as you seem to, that ol' Flydipper is another sexually confused fetishist and that the woman who ostensibly taught classes of naked teenaged boys never existed. And so my penis and testicles must now shrink because of his rather strange choice of joke to impose upon other men... Hmmm.
#13 Dec 19, 2012
(**facetious threat that focuses on male genetalia)
#14 Dec 20, 2012
Come out of the closet, Winlow, and say something. It is your thread, after all.
#15 Dec 20, 2012
Still want our genitals to shrink,... "if they haven't already"? Guess your appeal, replete as it was with exculpatory pre-conditions, has failed to elicit the avalanche of naked boys you sought.
#16 Dec 21, 2012
Swimmming nude in schools did happen in the mid to late 70's. I went to school in the City of Tonawanda we were required to take swimming . None of us wore suits. I personally looked forward to swim class as it was once a week. I found it to be fun.It was kind of funny watching my classmates walk by me and there penis would be bouncing and swaying back and forth . There was a sitting area if you were not in the pool.
#17 Dec 21, 2012
I took swimming in the late 60's in Baltimore, Md. Nude swimming in school is a popular topic except certain things seem to be left out. Boys and girls had seperate classes and boy classes had male instructors and girls had women instructors. Could the girls have gone in nude on a voluntary basis? The movie "Woodstock" was from that era and it shows girls bathing naked. Baltimore schools had girls only dances. Were these truly lesbian affairs? Boys always had warmups. When we had swimming we did warmups in the nude poolside. Were there gym classes not in the pool where students wore only a "bike"? In Japan boys go arround in public in a loincloth known as a "fundoshi". Sumo wrestlers have something similar and they compete in them and weigh hundreds of pounds. Try to wear only a loincloth or supporter in the US and one is in deepest do do.
#18 Dec 22, 2012
Nude swimming was boys only and the gym teacher male clothed standing outside of pool.
#19 Dec 22, 2012
Hello Winlow Dorval-Dipper, as Maltamon states nude swimming didn't really occur much in Pennsylvania but it was more common in states like Michigan, Wisconsin and Illinois.
A few Michigan schools such as Liberty School did experiment with female nude swimming on an optional basis but even this ended under parental protests.
Lets ensure this double standard never happens again and we campaign for gender neutrality in schools!
#20 Dec 22, 2012
While Maltamon may be sceptical about boys swimming naked in High School the one thing that will make his genitals shrink is the practice of forced nude weigh in's for wrestling that carried on until mid 2010. Maltamon was himself a victim of this practice that occured in his Pennsylvania High School in the 1970's.
Often boys were forced to strip naked one by one while their coach leered on!
Why couldn't they let them keep their underwear on? & for all those forced nudity deniers there is proof!
see below: http://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php...
High schools ban naked weigh-ins for wrestling
« on: May 08, 2010, 01:50:42 am »The rationale is correct, in my opinion, but its sad that its come to this, not for the athletes, but just in general.
No more naked weigh-ins in high school wrestling, not in this age of cell-phone cameras and easy access to the Internet.
Among wrestling rules changes approved last week by the National Federation of State High School Associations is that starting next season competitors must weigh in wearing "suitable" undergarments.
That means something covering the buttocks, groin and (in the case of girls) the breasts.
"The concern is technology. We're getting into cell phones getting into weigh-in areas. It's a privacy thing," said Bob Colgate, assistant director of the Indianapolis-based association.
There have been breaches of that privacy.
"There is every year," Colgate said. "If I was in a state association office, I'd rather have someone upset at me that their daughter or son was a tenth of a pound overweight than call and tell me,'Why is their picture on the Internet?' "
With weight classes in wrestling, a tenth of a pound can prevent a wrestler from competing at that weight. That was motivation for some to totally strip.
The previous rule was they could wear "no more" than an undergarment, and there was a rationale for that. Weigh-ins also are when wrestlers undergo checks for skin conditions such as ringworm. It is a total body check of limbs and torsos.
"They didn't want you covering up some kind of communicable skin condition," said Dale Pleimann, chairman of the association's wrestling rules committee.
The new rule is about images spreading on the Internet.
"With cell phones and (video) recordings and pictures and stuff like that, privacy issues were a great concern," Pleimann said. "All it takes is one time. With the ease of putting stuff like that on the Internet, YouTube and all those things, we just felt it's better to make sure that everybody is appropriately covered."
Colgate also said the rule accommodates female doctors and athletic trainers doing skin checks on males and vice versa.
Before last season, the NCAA made a rules change that wrestlers must weigh in wearing briefs, boxers or a competition singlet.
It also cited privacy and the increased number of female athletic trainers, doctors and administrators.
The NCAA had allowed naked weigh-ins. In international freestyle and Greco-Roman wrestling outside of the school setting, the rule is that wrestlers must weigh in wearing their competition singlets. That was done at last week's U.S. Open in Cleveland.
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