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Does Your School Still Have A Mandated Shower Requirement?

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Derek Sharne

Bishops Stortford, UK

#1 Apr 22, 2014
I've just started working in a brand new job at a new school, one of the newest Acadamies fro senior school pupils aged 12 upwards in the East of England. I'm a physical education teacher in my late 30's and at my previous 2 post there was never any set rule on after PE hygiene. Wash facilities wxisted and were encouraged, from just use of a sink to a cubicle shower if wanted. There was no compulsion.

My new school is quite different and has firmer rules all round, including in the physical education department. One of them is the mandatory school shower after PE classes for all. The showers are not even cubicles but the old style communal variety of all in at once together, no privacy. Now it came as a surprise to me that these type of facilities still exist and would be made compulsory. I'm not very comfortable with the whole issue and wonder whether to raise the fact. I'd prefer my pupils to have choice, not compulsion on the issue of showers and group nudity, not have it forced upon them, clearly against their will in many cases.

So just how widespread is the mandatory communal shower rule in schools nowadays? Am I in a minority for being a physical education teacher who is not comfortable with forcibly imposing nakedness on pupils? I'm pro choice, not force.

The current situation at my school and in my job is exactly the same as the one I as a boy had to deal with in school and I thought, and think that times and attitudes should have moved firmly on.
Phil

Blackburn, UK

#7 Apr 24, 2014
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Derek we must end all mandatory shower requirements in all uk schools.
Uniform List - Aylestone School
www.aylestone.org.uk/uniform.php&#8206 ;
Towel (all pupils are expected to shower after strenuous physical exercise)
Joseph Clarke School & Service - Equipment and Storage
www.joseph-clarke-sc.co.uk ›...› Secondary › Equipment and Storage&#8206;
Pupils are expected to come properly equipped for their lessons.... We do expect pupils to shower after their PE lessons and so they will also need to bring
School Information - Stone Hill School
stonehillschool.co.uk/?page_id =120&#8206;
KS3/4 pupils are expected to shower after PE
BP16 Showering PE - Cambridgeshire Education Portal
https://www.learntogether.org.uk/.../BP16%20S... ;
in physical activity there has been an expectation that pupils should shower, thereby showing an ... What is the expected behaviour of pupils in the shower?
Ignore Phil end this state sanctioned child abuse. Pupils can shower at HOME! djw
"....we must end all mandatory shower requirements in all uk schools"

Derek, if that happened DJW would have nothing to fantasize about.
As I said, a quick search of Topix using DJW as the key word will tell you all you need to know about this pedo who is probably rather envious of you and your predicament.
He would love to be in your shoes, or rather in your locker room.
MaltaMon

Wilmington, DE

#9 Apr 25, 2014
DjW wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop the Phil-anderers, Penisylvanian Perverts, Pittsburgh Pederasts, Philadelphia Paedophiles, Cyber predators and Mancunian Molestors. I fear the "honourable member" from Faringdon has been superglued to his own laptop by his semen stains.
Meanwhile, me and BOB will campaign for real child protection and stop school mandated showers in state schools!
http://www.frednicholson.norfolk.sch.uk/page/...
PE Kit
Children must be provided with a change of clothing for PE and games. Parents will be informed when their child is swimming and they will be informed of any special requirements for games.
A towel is needed for showering after PE.
Required:
Plain white T-shirt
Black PE Shorts
Trainers
Towel
Optional for outside lessons:
Plain black/navy tracksuit
Spare socks
Swimming:
Girls: One piece costume
Boys KS2: Swimming trunks
Boys KS3/4: Swimming shorts.
http://www.toynbee.hants.sch.uk/uniform.html
Girl’s PE Wear:
Plain black T-shirt/polo
Black reversible red band Rugby shirt (SKOOLKIT) or
Plain black sweatshirt (no hoods)
Black or white trainers with short plain white sports socks.
Black games shorts
Long Red socks,
Football boots and shin guards (Metal studs are not permitted on the Synthetic pitch.)
(a black pleated skirt may be worn for outdoor games but is not complusory)
A towel for use after taking a shower, and changes of underwear and socks are essential. All games and PE kit should be taken home after use for washing. Pupils should be reminded to bring it to school on the appropriate days and should not, of course, wear their day clothes for PE.
http://www.salegrammar.co.uk/page/schoolunifo...
Boys
•White Polo shirt with purple piping*
•Badged 1/2 zip sweat top*
•Badged black football shorts*
•Black/purple stripe reversible sports shirt*
•Sports socks with school lettering*
•Plain white sports socks
•Football boots
•Trainers
•Towel
•Change of underwear
Girls
•White Polo shirt with purple piping*
•Badged 1/2 zip sweat top*
•Badged black sports skirt*
•Badged black fitness shorts*
•Sports socks with school lettering*
•Plain white sports socks
•Plain black leotard (optional)
•Trainers
•Towel
•Change of underwear
http://www.thepalmercatholicacademy.org/admis...
In the interest of hygiene and PE equipment, it is essential that the same footwear, socks and underwear are not used for both PE and normal wear. Boxer shorts are not suitable for PE. Trainers are worn for Drama but students should change into shoes before going home, and this also applies after PE/Games.
http://hathawayacademy.attrust.org.uk/our-aca...
Physical Education
High standards of kit are expected of students with the following being required:
Black Shorts
White Socks
Boys Rugby Top *
Blue Polo shirt **
Girls Sweat Shirt *
Towel
Change of underwear
Training shoes (preferably Black Tracksuit Bottoms non-marking)
* Outdoor lessons
** Indoor lessons
All PE tops & shorts have the Academy logo and can only be purchased through the Academy. All kit to be clearly labelled.
Phil join me :-)
DJW, stop responding to.your own posts. Everyone knows that Phil didn't post that queer pedo trash: you did.
Bob

Mont-saint-hilaire, Canada

#11 Apr 26, 2014
Hey MaltaMon, the second time I did your son, instead of using lube, I used Ben Gay Heat Liniment. Your boy's buns were burning that night!

Hahahahahahahahaha!
Phil

Manchester, UK

#14 Apr 30, 2014
Devil Jinx Winlow wrote:
End mandated Maltamon showers in all uk schools.
http://corpuschristi.cardiff.sch.uk/~frontpag...
3. PE/Games clothing has been kept as simple as possible for the benefit of all concerned. However, separate clothing is required to avoid wear and tear on school uniform, to soak up perspiration and to avoid any adverse effects of inclement weather. It is clearly essential that pupils can change back into clean, dry clothes including underwear, after their games or PE lessons. It is also necessary for reasons of health and personal hygiene, that all pupils bring a towel with their kit for a shower after games.
It's also 'essential' that schools continue to post their PE uniform requirements so DJW can waste his excuse for a life trawling for such things to get off on it.
MaltaMon

Allentown, PA

#16 Apr 30, 2014
YOU, DJW, have been nothing of the kind. Not instrumental in anything other than stealing what others have posted and reposting their statements under your name or, in your endless effort to upgrade your sleazeball-pedophile image, under Phil's name or mine. Lol. Nobody has helped you here or elsewhere because nobody takes you seriously--except, of course, as what yku truly are: a deeply disturbed, sexually dysfunctional, nude-boy-fixated, morbidly lonely pedophile.
MaltaMon

Lancaster, PA

#18 May 1, 2014
Nobody takes you seriously, DJ. You have nothing to offer. You're a plagiarist and a pedophile. On the more positive side, however, you are very deeply disturbed.
Phil

Manchester, UK

#19 May 2, 2014
Deviant jolts workshy wrote:
You take me seriously Molly because I support child protection. You just want naked "concealed carry" in the school shower. Well remember Columbine 20 April 1999. People like you as good as pulled the triggers on those kids through your support of college jocks, homophobia and nude weigh-ins, showers, swim meets, posture photographs and gymnasium medical scoliosis checks!
DJW, explain in simple terms how your regularly copying and pasting the fantasies of others which involve boys in showers, in locker rooms, etc, and you obviously enjoying doing so as you never condemn the original poster, is somehow supporting child protection?
Phil

Manchester, UK

#20 May 2, 2014
PS: in your own words, DJW.
Don't copy and paste this time.
I know that will be difficult.
MaltaMon

Wilmington, DE

#21 May 2, 2014
Phil wrote:
PS: in your own words, DJW.
Don't copy and paste this time.
I know that will be difficult.
That will never happen, of course. Never. He'll either copy and post another sexual fantasy about children written entirely by someone else or he'll post another list of PE guidelines from some school. Or he'll ignore your request altogether. Those represent the upper limits of what this very sick queer pedophile bastard can do. He is devoid of ability and originality. And he has no shame whatsoever.
MaltaMon

New Castle, DE

#24 May 2, 2014
Dealing Junk Words wrote:
<quoted text>
By copying and pasting I highlight the contemporaneous injustice that still goes on in schools today. This is shock and awe Phil and we must put pressure on school Governors, heads of pe and school Principals to end Mandatory shower policies in UK schools and compulsory change of underwear policies.
Lets have tracksuits for all and not just girls. If white shorts are no good for girls they are no good for boys. Why do pupils still do gym bare feet in some schools but not in others? Why are football boots mandatory for boys but not girls? Why do at lea st 3 primary/community schools in the UK still have shirtless indoor PE.
Support Gender justice Phil, do not give in to the cynicism of the Maltamon who masturbates at every post I put on Topix. Do not allowed watered down perversions that happened to you at the Manchester Grammar occur today.
Support Male Rights.
Please, DJ, explain the strategy. How will posting queer sexual fantasies about schoolboys here put pressure on anybody, much less school governors? Please, DJ, explain.
Phil

Oldham, UK

#25 May 2, 2014
MaltaMon wrote:
<quoted text> Please, DJ, explain the strategy. How will posting queer sexual fantasies about schoolboys here put pressure on anybody, much less school governors? Please, DJ, explain.
Also explain how childishly posing as/posting these fantasies as Maltamon or myself helps to persuade school governers, etc to change their policies.
Bob

Mont-saint-hilaire, Canada

#26 May 3, 2014
Pedo Phil has been caught several times with minors in locker rooms, scout huts, and changing rooms. But he doesn't molest the boys, he just bores them to death.
Derek Sharne

Bishops Stortford, UK

#27 May 4, 2014
I remember reading an article in an education based magazine about 5 years ago, sorry but the name of the publication escapes me at the moment, but it had a really fascinating story about a particular secondary school in about 2008 or so that continued to have communal showers after PE classes. This school instigated a series of inter school referenda on varying day to day school based issues, one of which was whether mandatory communal showers should remain after PE. Although the results were not binding one way or the other, the pupils actually voted by a not insignificant majority of something like 60/40 in favour of retaining a compulsory communal school shower requirement for all its pupils up to about 15. Not the outcome I myself would have expected where I work.
MaltaMon

Wilmington, DE

#29 May 5, 2014
Derek Sharne wrote:
I remember reading an article in an education based magazine about 5 years ago, sorry but the name of the publication escapes me at the moment, but it had a really fascinating story about a particular secondary school in about 2008 or so that continued to have communal showers after PE classes. This school instigated a series of inter school referenda on varying day to day school based issues, one of which was whether mandatory communal showers should remain after PE. Although the results were not binding one way or the other, the pupils actually voted by a not insignificant majority of something like 60/40 in favour of retaining a compulsory communal school shower requirement for all its pupils up to about 15. Not the outcome I myself would have expected where I work.
2008. That's not exactly "breaking news". What is the situation now?
Phil

Oldham, UK

#32 May 6, 2014
DJ Waltz wrote:
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DJW, in what way does a post like this help with what you laughingly call a 'campaign' to end school showers?
What is the link?
What is the point you are making?
MaltaMon

Chester, PA

#33 May 6, 2014
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
DJW, in what way does a post like this help with what you laughingly call a 'campaign' to end school showers?
What is the link?
What is the point you are making?
You will never get a reasonable answer from DJ, Phil. You know as well as I that he has all the experience, sophistication and emotional maturity of a ten year-old. He doesn't know how to talk to adults. The saddest part of it is that he is entirely unaware of it. He's THAT screwed up. He's a ten year-old gay boy who lives in a disgudting middle-aged live carcass.
bill

Portland, IN

#34 May 19, 2014
We took communal showers totally nude without privacy after every gym class, sports practice, after school run, supervised weight training class, etc.

Some guys also showered and shaved at school after school so they would not have to do it at home prior to going to work.

This was in addition to nude swimming classes.

In high school I was naked every day.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#35 May 27, 2014
Last year I bought a guest pass for a Y out of state, when I was traveling on business. I was getting done with my weights workout at the same time that an entire boys swimming team was done with practice. They all showered in their suits and dried off and changed in the toilet stalls. You would think that if any boys would not mind being nude in a locker room, it would be a high school swim team.

Nope.

Showering with suits on and wearing the suits home or changing in the stalls, just like little boys at a park district pool....
. How times have changed.
Phil

Valencia, Spain

#37 May 28, 2014
jm1983j wrote:
Last year I bought a guest pass for a Y out of state, when I was traveling on business. I was getting done with my weights workout at the same time that an entire boys swimming team was done with practice. They all showered in their suits and dried off and changed in the toilet stalls. You would think that if any boys would not mind being nude in a locker room, it would be a high school swim team.
Nope.
Showering with suits on and wearing the suits home or changing in the stalls, just like little boys at a park district pool....
. How times have changed.
I agree JM 1983

If showering is optional the teacher should ensure that there is enough time available for those pupils
who wish to shower.

To encourage personal hygiene, washing could be an alternative to taking a shower. If this is the
preferred option for pupils, the following questions need to be considered.

Are there enough sinks available within the changing room area to allow all pupils to wash within a
short space of time?
Do the sinks provide private washing or will the open row of sinks just encourage the splashing of
hands and face?
Where do pupils hang their towels?
Is soap available or are pupils encouraged to bring their own?

Showering is a very sensitive issue, with many pupils finding the experience embarrassing and one
which causes anxiety. Teachers need to be aware of all the issues related to showering and act with
due consideration. The teacher has a duty of care and must be present within the changing area.
However, they must be careful to avoid compromising their position by being drawn into individual
situations e.g. being alone with a pupil in the changing rooms or condoning pupils being tormented by
others. The showering situation provides the opportunity for ridicule and unpleasant comments
between pupils. Teachers must be careful not to tolerate or encourage this kind of distressing
behaviour and ensure that at all times pupils are treated fairly and with due respect.

The school policy for showering should be made explicit to parents/guardians and be included within
the school handbook.

Carol Gronow (General Adviser for Physical Education and Sport) is available to provide advice and
consultancy on all aspects of curriculum, management and organisation of physical education in
schools. Contact Number: 01480 375599



References
Clay, G. Standards In Primary and Secondary Physical Education OFSTED 1995-96
The British Journal of Physical Education Summer, 1997 Vol.28 No.2
Tinson, S (1998)‘Like a lamb waiting to be slaughtered’. The implications of compulsory showering
on girls in physical education. Unpublished Masters Dissertation, University of Southampton.

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