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Since: May 13

Franklin, OH

#1 May 8, 2013
With standardized testing going on in schools this month, I think it is time we start standing up for this abuse. This form of abuse not only concerns teachers but the students as well. I am a 21 year junior at Miami University in Oxford studying middle childhood education.

I have launched a campaign to try and gain awareness that basing teachers pay on standardized test scores is wrong. My goal is to bring this issue nationwide. In order to achieve this, I started a petition on change.org and really want help in some way getting the word out. While I was able to get almost 200 signatures in less than a week, I need help with spreading the word. Don't be afraid to be the difference this change may need!

Here is the link:

https://www.change.org/petitions/united-state...

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#2 May 8, 2013
Why is it wrong to base teachers pay on standardized testing? Why should a teacher who doesn't show any interest or ability in teaching students be paid the same as a teacher who makes every effort to teach students?
I personally believe that a teacher should get paid according to the results he achieves with his students. And if a teacher doesn't achieve any results, or very poor results, he should be stopped from teaching.
MaltaMon

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#3 May 8, 2013
What you say would make sense if you only could establish that results of standardized tests reflect the quality of the effort that any individual teacher exerts to teach his or her students. Standardized test results reflect how well students have prepared for the standardized test--not how well they've been taught.
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#4 May 9, 2013
The above posts I find to be very interesting- sure would appreciate more thoughts on the issue and clarity of "standardized tests" so apples are apples !

Since: May 13

Franklin, OH

#5 May 10, 2013
Zuiko, as a future teacher I have spent time in classrooms where the teacher spends days if not weeks on how to take a standardized test. This is not teaching them anything that is important. This is not teaching them something that will grow their creativity or interest in learning. This is becoming to the point where we are beyond teaching to the test. We are teaching about the test.
MaltaMon

Tobyhanna, PA

#6 May 14, 2013
Indeed, the test is the objective. Upon the results of standardized tests depend federal and state funds for districts that report good scores and significant overall improvements from one year to the next. It is destroying education. In Pennsylvania, students through the fifth grade no longer read anything longer from literature than an excerpt selected by the state. They cannot be asked to read books. Not allowed. The time devoted to history instruction in middle schools and high schools has been slashed because federal funds depend more upon results in Mathematics and Science. The Arts don't even matter any longer. The institution of standardized tests neglected any thought given to how states would compete for ever-diminishing federal assistance. This has all been designed to promote the proliferation of so-called charter schools and thereby to break the teachers' unions. It has everything to do with reducing aid to public schools (while simultaneously expanding the availability of ever-diminishing federal aid to education to private schools)and about eliminating collective bargaining from public education.
LineDazzle

Prestatyn, UK

#7 May 14, 2013
Zuiko wrote:
Why is it wrong to base teachers pay on standardized testing? Why should a teacher who doesn't show any interest or ability in teaching students be paid the same as a teacher who makes every effort to teach students?
I personally believe that a teacher should get paid according to the results he achieves with his students. And if a teacher doesn't achieve any results, or very poor results, he should be stopped from teaching.
I believe Standardized tests should be implemented, because many female teachers, mainly feminists, want to feminize the boys, and feminized boys tend to be less competitive and fail the most in exams, because they don't have the masculine drive(By this I mean the competitive determined drive males have)to succeed in tests.
So a feminist teacher who feminizes her students will get paid less unless she tries to get her students to push! I believe feminist teachers is why many boys are behind girls this day in education, and age!
Bonb

Trois-rivières, Canada

#8 May 14, 2013
How many school tests (standardized or not) did you fail, LargeLout? Most of them or all of them?

Hahahahaha!

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#9 May 14, 2013
shaferar wrote:
Zuiko, as a future teacher I have spent time in classrooms where the teacher spends days if not weeks on how to take a standardized test. This is not teaching them anything that is important. This is not teaching them something that will grow their creativity or interest in learning. This is becoming to the point where we are beyond teaching to the test. We are teaching about the test.
I missed your post so I couldn't reply earlier about this important subject in education. The whole thing about standardized tests is what they consist of. Maybe you could explain in general.
I don't see why a Std. test should be about anything else than the subjects that students are learniing at school, which is a good test of what progress they are making and thus the ability of the teacher to teach. So I don't see why there should be the clash that you mention. If it is about creativity and interest in learning, as you mention, than that should also be included in the test. There simply is no excuse for allowing bad or incompetent teachers to teach, and teacher's salaries should be based on results achieved is my firm belief. Only incopetents would object to this.
LineDazzle

Wrexham, UK

#10 May 15, 2013
Zuiko wrote:
<quoted text>
I missed your post so I couldn't reply earlier about this important subject in education. The whole thing about standardized tests is what they consist of. Maybe you could explain in general.
I don't see why a Std. test should be about anything else than the subjects that students are learniing at school, which is a good test of what progress they are making and thus the ability of the teacher to teach. So I don't see why there should be the clash that you mention. If it is about creativity and interest in learning, as you mention, than that should also be included in the test. There simply is no excuse for allowing bad or incompetent teachers to teach, and teacher's salaries should be based on results achieved is my firm belief. Only incopetents would object to this.
Excerts in schools are totally appropriate. It gives the readers easy to follow pieces of different books and styles to view, there is no absolute need to read whole books in schools.

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