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I thoroughly enjoyed John Stossel's latest ABC special -- Stupid In America. Stossel spends an hour showing that public schools have failed despite increases in state and federal funding and that schools ...

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Richard Mangels

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Jan 16, 2006
 
It was with great joy that I saw John Stossel Rip into the poor educational system.I do beleve that improvement of one self is the only way to be.It was a low and sad to say that teachers(?) can not be fired that do not teach.The USA educational system is so far behind most other countries its a waste of our people future.
Evy Lysk

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Jan 18, 2006
 
I watched John Stossel's ABC special. I came away thinking teachers are too busy educating themselves at taxpayers expense for higher pay salaries and benefits. Their cohorts, the teacher's union are nothing but self-serving parisites. Check out the SATs scores and see for yourself that kids are failing across this country. More money in education is not the answer. The answer is teachers aren't GIANTS any more.

Evy Lysk, Benton school board director out of Penesylvania
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Feb 28, 2006
 
If the answer is "teachers aren't GIANTS any more," I must have missed the question. The students in your school district are lucky to have you working on improving their SAT scores with negativity towards their teachers. Good plan.

Chris Fazzina, teacher
Evy Lysk wrote:
I watched John Stossel's ABC special. I came away thinking teachers are too busy educating themselves at taxpayers expense for higher pay salaries and benefits. Their cohorts, the teacher's union are nothing but self-serving parisites. Check out the SATs scores and see for yourself that kids are failing across this country. More money in education is not the answer. The answer is teachers aren't GIANTS any more.

Evy Lysk, Benton school board director out of Penesylvania
Ben

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Mar 2, 2006
 
Lysk is right, most teachers today aren't giants like they were in my day.
Teacher choice

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Mar 3, 2006
 
Ever wonder why teachers aren't giants anymore. Who would want to enter a "profession" where idiots do nothing but take potshots at you. "Hm, should I become a medical professional, or a lawyer , or a teacher?" Now there's a choice.

If only dregs become teachers, that's better than we deserve, after how we treat them.
Jimmy

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Mar 11, 2006
 
Teachers are all about money, tuition, and pensions. Education is last in line with most teachers. Teacher are not giants today. I agree with Evy and Ben
Jimmy

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Mar 12, 2006
 
I forgot, teachers want free health care too. Teachers want everything and they expect taxpayers to pay for it all, and what are we getting for it? DUMB KIDS! Tell me teachers, tell me I'm wrong? Once upon a time there were teachers who were giants and honest, now they're greedy and self-serving.
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Mar 16, 2006
 
Jimmy wrote:
Teachers are all about money, tuition, and pensions. Education is last in line with most teachers. Teacher are not giants today. I agree with Evy and Ben
sorry, i do not agree, teachers do not get paid shit, and they have to put up with the little rascals for majority of the day. most kids(no matter the age) do not listen, have bad attitudes...
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Mar 17, 2006
 
Richard Mangels wrote:
It was with great joy that I saw John Stossel Rip into the poor educational system.I do beleve that improvement of one self is the only way to be.It was a low and sad to say that teachers(?) can not be fired that do not teach.The USA educational system is so far behind most other countries its a waste of our people future.
I agree! This tenure system must be revamped if our schools are to improve. One possible change could be limited tenure, perhaps 5-7 years then recertification must be attained.
Evy Lysk

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Mar 19, 2006
 
Taxpayers are the employer. Teachers are the employees. The employer has a right to know what their employees are demanding. Teachers should justify their demands. If teacher demands are reasonable, than why keep them secret? Teachers and most school board directors have pit themselves against taxpayers, and teacher/directors have no right to be on our school boards, that is a conflict of interest! At my school here in Benton, Pa at one time we had 3 teacher/directors on the school board in teachers contract negotiations. That's unethical!!! Another thing that's unethical is keeping secrets from the taxpayers who pay the bills, pay the salaries, pay the raises, pay the health care for teachers and administrators. I am a school board director and I will not keep secrets from the taxpayers.

Evy Lysk, WWW.THE-PATRIOT-S-VOICE.COM
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Mar 21, 2006
 
Chris Fazzina wrote:
If the answer is "teachers aren't GIANTS any more," I must have missed the question. The students in your school district are lucky to have you working on improving their SAT scores with negativity towards their teachers. Good plan.

Chris Fazzina, teacher

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If teachers were serious about teaching for the love of teaching, than why are teachers salaries and benefits up and test scores down. Teacher Fazzina, my plan, my advice is to put kids first, and give them the biggest piece of the pie. Teachers, and their union shouldn't put their wants ahead of childrens education.

On another note, Taxpayers pay for teachers salaries, raises, health care, and tuitions. Here in Pennsylvania we have too many teachers not paying something into their own health care, and some pay little. Teachers are not kings & queens, but they think they are. Teachers should justify their wants and demands. Let them explain why they deserve the moon and the stars. I know of no other business who gets what teachers get. The real world has to live with demands and concessions, and why shouldn't teachers and their union.
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Jul 13, 2006
 
Tax Payer from NY wrote:
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I agree! This tenure system must be revamped if our schools are to improve. One possible change could be limited tenure, perhaps 5-7 years then recertification must be attained.
In Florida, teachers must recertify before their five years are up. Teachers must take college courses or teacher workshops to stay "up to date" with subjects.
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Jul 13, 2006
 
Evy Lysk wrote:
I watched John Stossel's ABC special. I came away thinking teachers are too busy educating themselves at taxpayers expense for higher pay salaries and benefits. Their cohorts, the teacher's union are nothing but self-serving parisites. Check out the SATs scores and see for yourself that kids are failing across this country. More money in education is not the answer. The answer is teachers aren't GIANTS any more.
Evy Lysk, Benton school board director out of Penesylvania
It's sad to see that a "SCHOOL BOARD DIRECTOR" can't spell the state of Pennsylvania correctly. I'm a teacher and what a shame it is to see an ADMINISTRATOR of teachers not know how to spell! I believe this country needs to look into administrators and politicians. If teachers were allowed to teach like they used to teach, then maybe, students would learn more!
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Aug 2, 2006
 
It's sad to see a teacher complain over one misspelled word. I'm sure it was a typo by the school board director. Read her other post and you will see she spelled her state correctly. Nikki picky, there's no need to be so darn spitful.
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Sep 22, 2006
 
WOW Arent you doom and gloom. Do you forget you were once a brat who had a teacher thinking the same thing as you.
Evy Lysk

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Oct 9, 2006
 
I see John Stossel is hanging tough. I appreciate you Mr. Stossel
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Nov 20, 2006
 
There's a lot of finger pointing with no one is trying to work together to solve this problem. We lose good teachers to other professions because of low pay, lack of parental support and overburdening beurocracy.
Let's start working togther rather than attacking anyone who disagrees.

Let the flaming begin!
Mark

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Nov 20, 2006
 
kamm wrote:
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sorry, i do not agree, teachers do not get paid shit, and they have to put up with the little rascals for majority of the day. most kids(no matter the age) do not listen, have bad attitudes...
Teachers are the most overpaid baby sitters in the history of human kind. The money is awesome for the hours, but the real pay is incalculable for a true teacher, but that teacher is so rare. I have yet to see one in person, but I know of many throughout history. This subject is so clearly misunderstood by the vast majority. mark
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Nov 25, 2006
 
Kathy wrote:
Teachers are underpaid. Maybe if the received a better paycheck than intelligent people would get into that profession. Almost all teachers today instructing grades 1-9 are just babysitters and are not very bright themselves. <quoted text>
kATHY
agreed, most teachers are not very bright, especially when you consider that what is really rewarding about teachers and readily available to them, is very rarely taken or appreciated. It is not the paycheck that is the problem, but education itself that fails to cultivate what is best in man and as a result we have some of the biggest losers in society doing our most important work. To add insult to injury, these same people would indignantly defend themselves tooth and nail, rather than admit there is a problem and do something about fixing it. The teaching profession is sinking deeper and deeper into a quagmire of moral depravity. mark
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Nov 26, 2006
 
Kathy wrote:
How many more people have to home school their children before something changes? <quoted text>
There really is no such schooling other than home schooling. mark

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