Largelanguage

UK

#124 Feb 24, 2013
SLC wrote:
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Here's a couple of examples from mainstream Hollywood movies which show underage actors nude.
1. "Apt Pupil", staring 15 year old Brad Renfro. In the movie, Renfro plays a high school student. There is a scene where he is taking a shower in the schools communal shower where his ass is exposed for several seconds (there are other actors in that particular scene, all of whom are extras, also showing them nude from the rear; it is unclear whether any of them are less then 18 but Renfro certainly was. According to Mr. Maltamon, this is a pornographic movie which should be banned and those adults associated with it should be arrested for child porn. It could be that a body double was used for Renfro but, if so, it was not detectable.
2. "The Little Girl who Lives Down the Lane", starring 13 year old Jodie Foster. In the movie, Foster appears nude in a scene and is shown from the side. Her right breast is plainly visible. Again, according to Mr. Maltamon, this is a porn movie and should be banned and those adults associated with it should be arrested. Again, a body double might have been used but, if so, it was undetectable.
Most actors who play teens are actually usually in their 30's, but look much younger.

Most actors wear rubber overskin(costumes)to make them look naked.

Fake butts can be used too.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#125 Feb 24, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Most actors who play teens are actually usually in their 30's, but look much younger.
Most actors wear rubber overskin(costumes)to make them look naked.
Fake butts can be used too.
Actually, in their 20's. For instance, Dan Monahan was 26 playing a high school student in the first "Porky's" movie.

Interestingly enough, Renfro, who was 15 at the time "Apt Pupil" was shot according to IMDB, was playing a high school senior, presumably aged 17.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#126 Feb 24, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Most actors who play teens are actually usually in their 30's, but look much younger.
Most actors wear rubber overskin(costumes)to make them look naked.
Fake butts can be used too.
As for rubber overskins, I can't speak as to that. The copy of both films that I have is a DVD rip which I watched on a computer with a 27 inch monitor. In particular, if Renfro and the extras were wearing rubber overskins, it was not at all obvious. However, one would have to observe the HD/BluRay version of the film to really tell. According to a Google Search,, such a version exists on
BTtorrent but I'm not that enthused about the flic to bother downloading it. In the unlikely event that anyone is interested, the specs are:

Source.......... EUR BD
Format.......... Matroska
Released.........: PublicHD 2012/10/30
File size........: 4.7 GB
Length.......... 1H 51mn 10s
Video bit rate...: 5300 KB/s
Display AR.......: 1920/800 (2.40:1)
Frame rate.......: 23.976 fps
AUDIO.......... ENGLISH DTS-5.1 768 KBps
SUBTITLES........: ENG (srt & VobSub PSDH), DAN, DUT, FIN, FRE, GER, HUN, ROM, SPA
Encoder.......... HighCode
Encoding settings: High@5.0 (ref=6, bframes=8, deblock=1:-3:-3, subme=10, me_range=128, rc_lookahead=120)
Category: HD Movies

The torrent file can be downloaded from:

http://h33t.com/torrent/4160092/apt-pupil-199...
Petronius Walker

Basingstoke, UK

#127 Feb 24, 2013
I am English and soon after I started working in the central Government's education department, I dealt with a case of a headteacher who insisted on boys swimming naked. Being 1992, I was applying current thinking (that this should not be allowed) while he was deploying a lifetime of thinking that it was fine. In fact, nudity in similar situations is not unheard of today: many men will be used to facilities designed for shared nakedness (communal showers at pools and gyms). Share facilities like these are starting to be less favoured, but there existence suggests a time when nudity was not so controversial. There's plenty of photos on the internet to demonstrate this, for example, among world war soldiers. In my case, I attended a residential school and female house had access when showering and changing. Provided we knew them, we were fine with this. If you know the score, you can be fine when otherwise you wouldn't. Look up topix sites explaining how men use urinals even when women enter to use the stalls, for example during concerts when the demand is so great that normal rules disappear and everyone acknowledges that getting to use the loo is more important than inhibitions. So long as its not sexual, it's not sexual. So with my background, I actually don't think it's too far stretched to imagine that females were at nude male swim sessions, or that males were not bashful. It was just a different set of norms. Give it 30 years and our children won't believe that there were ever communal showers that so much as gave us the chance to shower naked next to each other, let alone whether we actually did.
Largelanguage

Flint, UK

#128 Feb 25, 2013
Zuiko wrote:
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MM, none of those photos are pornographic or illegal. As far as I can tell they all appeared in mainstream magazines, and even in family magazines like Time and others. They are neither considered as illegal today because they can be found on respectable sites as historic content. Proof of this is that site is a Google sponsored site, as you can see from its address, and I assure you that Google should know what is legal or not a lot more than you or I.
I kmew that this ignorant, narrow minded, argument would come up, especially by ignorant people like LL, which is why I only linked the page showing the newspaper and written articles of the time. There are other pages on the same site with contemporary photos of the time showing boys swimming nude in public places and beaches, and also historic public videos, even in NY harbour and central park, to show how common and acceptable this practice of male nude swimming in public was. One should take this as historic evidence, and not as pornography because there is none in it. Only dirty minded, deranged, lunatic and ignorant people would consider it as pornography.
Like brads site? HAHAHA!!!! NO WAY!
Largelanguage

Flint, UK

#129 Feb 25, 2013
SLC wrote:
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Actually, in their 20's. For instance, Dan Monahan was 26 playing a high school student in the first "Porky's" movie.
Interestingly enough, Renfro, who was 15 at the time "Apt Pupil" was shot according to IMDB, was playing a high school senior, presumably aged 17.
Depends on the date of the movie.
Largelanguage

Flint, UK

#130 Feb 25, 2013
Petronius Walker wrote:
I am English and soon after I started working in the central Government's education department, I dealt with a case of a headteacher who insisted on boys swimming naked. Being 1992, I was applying current thinking (that this should not be allowed) while he was deploying a lifetime of thinking that it was fine. In fact, nudity in similar situations is not unheard of today: many men will be used to facilities designed for shared nakedness (communal showers at pools and gyms). Share facilities like these are starting to be less favoured, but there existence suggests a time when nudity was not so controversial. There's plenty of photos on the internet to demonstrate this, for example, among world war soldiers. In my case, I attended a residential school and female house had access when showering and changing. Provided we knew them, we were fine with this. If you know the score, you can be fine when otherwise you wouldn't. Look up topix sites explaining how men use urinals even when women enter to use the stalls, for example during concerts when the demand is so great that normal rules disappear and everyone acknowledges that getting to use the loo is more important than inhibitions. So long as its not sexual, it's not sexual. So with my background, I actually don't think it's too far stretched to imagine that females were at nude male swim sessions, or that males were not bashful. It was just a different set of norms. Give it 30 years and our children won't believe that there were ever communal showers that so much as gave us the chance to shower naked next to each other, let alone whether we actually did.
Don't think you are here to be believed. Taboos on nudity were actually stronger, and men would always feel shy, nothing is different.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#131 Feb 25, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Depends on the date of the movie.
Well, let's see. Sissy Spacek was 26 when she played a high school student in "Carrie". Jason Biggs was 20 when he played a high school student in "American Pie". Leonardo DiCaprio was 20 when he played a high school student in "The Basketball Diaries". If Mr. Largelanguage has an example of an actor in his/her 30s playing a high school student, let's hear it.
Largelanguage

Flint, UK

#132 Feb 25, 2013
SLC wrote:
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Well, let's see. Sissy Spacek was 26 when she played a high school student in "Carrie". Jason Biggs was 20 when he played a high school student in "American Pie". Leonardo DiCaprio was 20 when he played a high school student in "The Basketball Diaries". If Mr. Largelanguage has an example of an actor in his/her 30s playing a high school student, let's hear it.
But the 20's should be enough, 30's should easily topple your claims, so much excuses!
SLC

Arlington, VA

#133 Feb 25, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Don't think you are here to be believed. Taboos on nudity were actually stronger, and men would always feel shy, nothing is different.
A couple more examples. Richard Dreyfuss was 25 when he played a recent high school graduate, presumably 17 in "American Graffiti", Ron Howard was 19 when he played a recent high school graduate, presumably 17 in "American Graffiti".
Largelanguage

Flint, UK

#134 Feb 25, 2013
SLC wrote:
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A couple more examples. Richard Dreyfuss was 25 when he played a recent high school graduate, presumably 17 in "American Graffiti", Ron Howard was 19 when he played a recent high school graduate, presumably 17 in "American Graffiti".
He was probably 18. But the date of the movies as well. And remember, it was probably outdated as well when it said he was 17, you need to look at more recent records of his age.

People do not pick teenagers for the roles of teenagers because they are inexperienced and people at least in the late 20's, if not 30's, are prefered.
SLC

Arlington, VA

#135 Feb 25, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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He was probably 18. But the date of the movies as well. And remember, it was probably outdated as well when it said he was 17, you need to look at more recent records of his age.
People do not pick teenagers for the roles of teenagers because they are inexperienced and people at least in the late 20's, if not 30's, are prefered.
I would agree that they generally don't pick teenage actors to play high school students. However, I don't see that they pick actors in their 30s or late 20s either.

Some more examples: 21 year old Johnny Depp and 20 year old Heather Langenkamp playing high school students in "A Nightmare on Elm Street". 24 year old James Dean, 17 year old Natalie Wood, and 16 year old Sal Mineo playing high school students in "Rebel Without a Cause".
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#136 Feb 25, 2013
SLC wrote:
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I would agree that they generally don't pick teenage actors to play high school students. However, I don't see that they pick actors in their 30s or late 20s either.
Some more examples: 21 year old Johnny Depp and 20 year old Heather Langenkamp playing high school students in "A Nightmare on Elm Street". 24 year old James Dean, 17 year old Natalie Wood, and 16 year old Sal Mineo playing high school students in "Rebel Without a Cause".
But no underage actors have been shown nude.
MaltaMon

Philadelphia, PA

#137 Feb 25, 2013
Zuiko wrote:
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MM, none of those photos are pornographic or illegal. As far as I can tell they all appeared in mainstream magazines, and even in family magazines like Time and others. They are neither considered as illegal today because they can be found on respectable sites as historic content. Proof of this is that site is a Google sponsored site, as you can see from its address, and I assure you that Google should know what is legal or not a lot more than you or I.
I kmew that this ignorant, narrow minded, argument would come up, especially by ignorant people like LL, which is why I only linked the page showing the newspaper and written articles of the time. There are other pages on the same site with contemporary photos of the time showing boys swimming nude in public places and beaches, and also historic public videos, even in NY harbour and central park, to show how common and acceptable this practice of male nude swimming in public was. One should take this as historic evidence, and not as pornography because there is none in it. Only dirty minded, deranged, lunatic and ignorant people would consider it as pornography.
Lol.. Is that so? "Only a dirty-minded, deranged lunatic and ignorant people"? Now who's speaking in "absolutes"? From the perspective of today, given all that has come out about paedophile preists, child sexual abuse,and, indeed, the proliferation of the identification and capture of child pornographers, no caring, sane adult can look upon those images of naked children without anger, chagrin, or heartache. No sane and caring adult would fail to recognize that to photograph them in that way and to publish those photos was abusive. Did they have any choice in the matter? What do you think when you view images of slaves in the United States? That inasmuch as slavery was accepted at the time, that legal and cultural standard were different, that it was "just the way things were at the time", you don't find the ownership of people by people, and the subjection of them to a life entirely devoid of free will--and that it is all determined on the basis of race--at all repugnant? That to find offensive, disgusting and shameful images of the thrashing of peaceful marchers at Selma in 1965 by Alabama State Police is at once insane and ignorant because "that's must the way things were"? It is neither insane nor ignorant to apply current adult sensibilities and awareness to the acts of the past to recognize what was going on then or, with the phony-baloney historical mission of this site, which is really just a cover for those who wish to gaze upon naked boys, what is going on here and now.
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#138 Feb 25, 2013
MaltaMon wrote:
<quoted text> Lol.. Is that so? "Only a dirty-minded, deranged lunatic and ignorant people"? Now who's speaking in "absolutes"? From the perspective of today, given all that has come out about paedophile preists, child sexual abuse,and, indeed, the proliferation of the identification and capture of child pornographers, no caring, sane adult can look upon those images of naked children without anger, chagrin, or heartache. No sane and caring adult would fail to recognize that to photograph them in that way and to publish those photos was abusive. Did they have any choice in the matter? What do you think when you view images of slaves in the United States? That inasmuch as slavery was accepted at the time, that legal and cultural standard were different, that it was "just the way things were at the time", you don't find the ownership of people by people, and the subjection of them to a life entirely devoid of free will--and that it is all determined on the basis of race--at all repugnant? That to fi offensive,nd disgusting and shameful images of the thrashing of peaceful marchers at Selma in 1965 by Alabama State Police is at once insane and ignorant because "that's must the way things were"? It is neither insane nor ignorant to apply current adult sensibilities and awareness to the acts of the past to recognize what was going on then or, with the phony-baloney historical mission of this site, which is really just a cover for those who wish to gaze upon naked boys, what is going on here and now.
Zuiko would likely agree with what they did, remember, Zuiko wants to bring back the paddle to sort out "those ghetto youths", he's a racist, remember?
MaltaMon

Philadelphia, PA

#139 Feb 25, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Zuiko would likely agree with what they did, remember, Zuiko wants to bring back the paddle to sort out "those ghetto youths", he's a racist, remember?
That's right. The legacy of FortySomething, may he RIP, lol.
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#140 Feb 25, 2013
MaltaMon wrote:
<quoted text> That's right. The legacy of FortySomething, may he RIP, lol.
The nudeboy adoring Zuiko60ysomething virgin.
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#141 Feb 25, 2013
Hey, I got some peanuts, crosses, and dull light bulbs too, they are doing us a favour, aint they?
SLC

Arlington, VA

#142 Feb 25, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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But no underage actors have been shown nude.
That's assuming that either body doubles were used for Renfro and Foster or they were wearing rubber overskins, as Mr. Largelanguage suggested earlier on. For instance, a body double was used for Brooke Shields in "The Blue Lagoon", as she was 15 at the time.
MaltaMon

Cherry Hill, NJ

#143 Feb 25, 2013
They are, as I have said, a Badge of Honor". Just look at who posts them, and with the swift vigilance of lonely disturbed men who have little else to do but to read the endless postings, to comb the internet for child pornography, and to post the sort of cartoon images that the naked little boys in the photos they collect and store on their hard drives would enjoy. I, for one, welcome the hatred that is clearly behind their obsessive attention to my every word.

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