jean-reneI am very surprised that some of you can write so much messages that their number is now about 600 on 31 pages to repeat almost every time the same comments which are mainly stupid.
it seems that some of you are making all the time a confusion between nudity and pornography and refuse to admit that the social norms were different towards male nudity, especially that of boys in the past.
Even now they are different according to countries : in most of the european countries, it is possible to show in a movie or a teledrama boys under 18 age in the nude from the rear and nobody complains and thinks that it is pornography if there is nothing sexual in the scene, for instance if it is under a shower and so on ..
It seems that in the united states, the view of the naked buttocks of a boy's student is now impossible!
what a good protection against pornography.!
but how can you admit some paintings or sculptures in the museums when they show us children and teenagers in the nude?
I am not at all concerned by the discussion about the swimming lessons in the nude for boy's students because I have never know that situation in France at schools but there was other situations of double standards of course like mandatory showers more frequent for boys than girls and certainly less privacy at mandatory group school physicals with an undressing in a large locker room of about 15 boy's students each year of school.
I remember also that it occured a few times that a cleaning lady came in the locker room of the swimming pool during our school swimming lessons while we were still not completely dressed, some being still under the gang shower. Even in high school, it ,but nobody was really shocked by that situation even if the reverse with girl's students woumld have been impossible.
We knew that only women did that job and she came to tell our PE teacher to make us hurry up because she wanted to clean the locker room before our departure to end her job more quickly or it was sometimes the lady at the desk entrance who wanted to close the swimming pool and to get out after our departure.
I presume that for some of you it was an abuse since they could see us undressed, even naked for some of us!
For us it was nothing important. These women had no sexual interest for us and they were not young girls but mature women!
I presume also that some of you will not admit that there was a lot of draft physicals in the nude in the past and that all a group of young men of 18 age had to report all together in line in the nude in front of a draft board commission.
I presume that they will say that the members of the draft board commission were all pervert persons to look at these naked male teenagers of 18 age!
Well it has existed in the past even if it is difficult to admit and to understand for those who are too young to have known those situations!
Like DJW this topic is an obsession of yours and like DJW (and Bob) you need to get out more.