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Phil

Godstone, UK

#658 Aug 4, 2014
jean-rene wrote:
I am very surprised that some of you can write so much messages that their number is now about 600 on 31 pages to repeat almost every time the same comments which are mainly stupid.
it seems that some of you are making all the time a confusion between nudity and pornography and refuse to admit that the social norms were different towards male nudity, especially that of boys in the past.
Even now they are different according to countries : in most of the european countries, it is possible to show in a movie or a teledrama boys under 18 age in the nude from the rear and nobody complains and thinks that it is pornography if there is nothing sexual in the scene, for instance if it is under a shower and so on ..
It seems that in the united states, the view of the naked buttocks of a boy's student is now impossible!
what a good protection against pornography.!
but how can you admit some paintings or sculptures in the museums when they show us children and teenagers in the nude?
I am not at all concerned by the discussion about the swimming lessons in the nude for boy's students because I have never know that situation in France at schools but there was other situations of double standards of course like mandatory showers more frequent for boys than girls and certainly less privacy at mandatory group school physicals with an undressing in a large locker room of about 15 boy's students each year of school.
I remember also that it occured a few times that a cleaning lady came in the locker room of the swimming pool during our school swimming lessons while we were still not completely dressed, some being still under the gang shower. Even in high school, it ,but nobody was really shocked by that situation even if the reverse with girl's students woumld have been impossible.
We knew that only women did that job and she came to tell our PE teacher to make us hurry up because she wanted to clean the locker room before our departure to end her job more quickly or it was sometimes the lady at the desk entrance who wanted to close the swimming pool and to get out after our departure.
I presume that for some of you it was an abuse since they could see us undressed, even naked for some of us!
For us it was nothing important. These women had no sexual interest for us and they were not young girls but mature women!
I presume also that some of you will not admit that there was a lot of draft physicals in the nude in the past and that all a group of young men of 18 age had to report all together in line in the nude in front of a draft board commission.
I presume that they will say that the members of the draft board commission were all pervert persons to look at these naked male teenagers of 18 age!
Well it has existed in the past even if it is difficult to admit and to understand for those who are too young to have known those situations!
jean-rene

Like DJW this topic is an obsession of yours and like DJW (and Bob) you need to get out more.
MaltaMon

Wilmington, DE

#661 Aug 4, 2014
Jean-Rene, Phil a raison: vous en est peit-etre plutot obsede. Cependant, mefiez-vous d'une alliance avec le Pederaste de Dorval ou avec la Petite Folle d'Angleterre. Ne les trouvez-vous pas tout a fait honteux et degueulasses?(Notez bien que mon appareil ne me permet pas d'y mettre d'accents)
MaltaMon

Whitehall, PA

#667 Aug 5, 2014
Bob wrote:
J'ai bien noté que ton appareil ne permettre pas de mettre l'intelligence non plus, hostie d'imbécile.
Hahahaha!
LOL!! On Pedo Bob's franco-phony (yes, intentionally misspelled to convey the reality of Pedo Bob's alleged proficiency in French), one need not conjugate at all, much less even KNOW how to conjugate, the infinitives that one finds on the "Petit Dictionnaire Anglais-Francais"
MaltaMon

Whitehall, PA

#668 Aug 5, 2014
Espece de con.
MaltaMon

Whitehall, PA

#669 Aug 5, 2014
And DJW is back onto one of "his" original topics, when he posted as Zuiko and Sir Arthur, nude weigh-ins. And still posting those photo-shopped CFNM pictures. Ahem. Quel pede.
Bob

Châteauguay, Canada

#670 Aug 5, 2014
Hahahahahaha! Monsieur Moron, there are no errors in my french. I live in Quebec, remember?(see the location...)

If there are any errors, Mister-I-Went-to-Graduate-Scho ol-in-France, tell me what they are.
MaltaMon

Whitehall, PA

#672 Aug 6, 2014
Bob wrote:
J'ai bien noté que ton appareil ne permettre pas de mettre l'intelligence non plus, hostie d'imbécile.
Hahahaha!
No errors, eh, Hoser?'... ton appareil ne permettre pas" Run that past your prof de francais, connard.
MaltaMon

Whitehall, PA

#673 Aug 6, 2014
Pretty serious error, Pedo Baby. No native speaker would replace a third-person singular of the present-tense form of any verb with its infinitive in a declarative sentence. Not even a pre-school child, who doesn't yet know the rules of French grammar, would make that mistake. You're a tourist from Toronto in Quebec, Bobine.
Phil

UK

#675 Aug 7, 2014
Bob wrote:
Mange la marde, moron.
(Besides criticizing my french, what ELSE are you and Phil gonna do about me, huh moron? Hahahaha!)
Well, I could teach you how to spell.
French has a big F, dickhead.
Ask mummy.
MaltaMon

Elizabethtown, PA

#676 Aug 7, 2014
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I could teach you how to spell.
French has a big F, dickhead.
Ask mummy.
Wrong again!! For God's sake, why don't you quit while you're ahead, you stupid jackass? "Le Francais", "big F", as you say in your childlike patter, means "the Frenchman". "Le francais" with a "little f", freak, means "French", as in the French language. You obviously do not speak French, mon petit espece de con.
MaltaMon

Elizabethtown, PA

#677 Aug 7, 2014
That's Bob, not Phil, who authored the statement in italics.
MaltaMon

North Wales, PA

#678 Aug 7, 2014
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I could teach you how to spell.
French has a big F, dickhead.
Ask mummy.
Phil, I thought this was Pedo Bob parading his flawed French again. Instead, it is you criticizing him, quite justifiably, for his flawed English. I didn't look carefully, as is my wont nowadays with Bob's posts. My error. My apologies. Kudos to you for taking him to task. And now we get to enjoy the Pedophaggot's childlike glee as he celebrates my misreading of your comment as his. Those self-lauding, overwrought outbursts of Bob's are always fun.
MaltaMon

North Wales, PA

#679 Aug 7, 2014
Bob wrote:
Mange la marde, moron.
(Besides criticizing my french, what ELSE are you and Phil gonna do about me, huh moron? Hahahaha!)
And as for you, Pedo Bob, we are already doing it. And you're playing right along, giving us more than we will ever need. So keep talking, Pedo Baby, keep talking.
Phil

UK

#681 Aug 7, 2014
MaltaMon wrote:
<quoted text> And as for you, Pedo Bob, we are already doing it. And you're playing right along, giving us more than we will ever need. So keep talking, Pedo Baby, keep talking.
Yes.
Give a man enough rope, etc.
MaltaMon

Woodstown, NJ

#683 Aug 9, 2014
Sure, Bob.
Maltamon

Pallejá, Spain

#686 Sep 4, 2015
you are fighting a loosing battle. Take it from someone who knows. People equate nudity to sex. They have no concept of how people can be nude without it NOT being about sex.
I'm a nudist. The foundation of nudism is nudity without sex. If anyone gets sexual at any family nudist event they are kicked out and banned from ever returning. Nudism is about the freedom of being without clothes. It is a freedom that is impossible to explain without trying it. Yet clothed people will condemn social nudism as a sexual driven lifestyle, when in fact it is a sexless social lifestyle.
So with CFMN, you will face the same closed mindedness. People who look at it from the outside, will only see abuse and exploitation. They will always believe no matter how much you try and educate them, that CFMN is ALL about sex.
I have never attended a CFMN event. Although I have attended many NFMN events. Nudist events are total nudity of both genders.
Now, when I think back to my childhood, I was brought up in a society that was CFMN without calling it that. Boys were expected to be nude in mixed company where girls were never nude when any boy was around. I swam nude at the YMCA and at school. That statement ages me. lol.
But it was nothing for moms to sit in and watch their sons as well as the other boys swim nude. Many times they brought sister along as well. At home my mom and sisters seen me nude all the time around the house. But even in somewhat public places like swimming pools it was common for boys to be nude while females were around to see them.
I can remember playing in our backyard nude along with my brothers and friends. My sisters were never allowed to play nude and no other boys sisters that I ever saw went nude in front of us.
Until I read this poll and the comments that people have posted, did I take time to think back on my childhood and young adulthood and discovered that I did indeed grow up in a CFMN society.
If one takes the time to do the research you can find many really old photos, in Black and White of course, where males are nude with females present fully clothed. Most of the photo's that I have seen were around swimming events. They are out there which shows that we were once a CFMN society and at the same time a very sexually deprived society. Which also shows that CFMN and sex are not equal. They are two separate situations, that can be combined if people wanted to combine them, but it is not a necessity. You can have CFMN without sex being involved just like you can have Nudism without sex being involved.
I'm not sure I would attend a CFMN event. I think I would feel a little uncomfortable. Which is odd, considering I am completely comfortable being nude in a mixed gender and generational group. But I think the discussion is worth having.
MichaelN

Whitehall, PA

#687 Sep 4, 2015
Maltamon wrote:
you are fighting a loosing battle. Take it from someone who knows. People equate nudity to sex. They have no concept of how people can be nude without it NOT being about sex.
I'm a nudist. The foundation of nudism is nudity without sex. If anyone gets sexual at any family nudist event they are kicked out and banned from ever returning. Nudism is about the freedom of being without clothes. It is a freedom that is impossible to explain without trying it. Yet clothed people will condemn social nudism as a sexual driven lifestyle, when in fact it is a sexless social lifestyle.
So with CFMN, you will face the same closed mindedness. People who look at it from the outside, will only see abuse and exploitation. They will always believe no matter how much you try and educate them, that CFMN is ALL about sex.
I have never attended a CFMN event. Although I have attended many NFMN events. Nudist events are total nudity of both genders.
Now, when I think back to my childhood, I was brought up in a society that was CFMN without calling it that. Boys were expected to be nude in mixed company where girls were never nude when any boy was around. I swam nude at the YMCA and at school. That statement ages me. lol.
But it was nothing for moms to sit in and watch their sons as well as the other boys swim nude. Many times they brought sister along as well. At home my mom and sisters seen me nude all the time around the house. But even in somewhat public places like swimming pools it was common for boys to be nude while females were around to see them.
I can remember playing in our backyard nude along with my brothers and friends. My sisters were never allowed to play nude and no other boys sisters that I ever saw went nude in front of us.
Until I read this poll and the comments that people have posted, did I take time to think back on my childhood and young adulthood and discovered that I did indeed grow up in a CFMN society.
If one takes the time to do the research you can find many really old photos, in Black and White of course, where males are nude with females present fully clothed. Most of the photo's that I have seen were around swimming events. They are out there which shows that we were once a CFMN society and at the same time a very sexually deprived society. Which also shows that CFMN and sex are not equal. They are two separate situations, that can be combined if people wanted to combine them, but it is not a necessity. You can have CFMN without sex being involved just like you can have Nudism without sex being involved.
I'm not sure I would attend a CFMN event. I think I would feel a little uncomfortable. Which is odd, considering I am completely comfortable being nude in a mixed gender and generational group. But I think the discussion is worth having.
A "loosing" battle? How loose?
Bob

Blainville, Canada

#688 Sep 4, 2015
You MaltaMon, are fighting a losing battle, that's for sure. Every one of your strategies against me has failed. Some of your concocted stories:
-your raped son
-the local and federal closing in
-my imminent arrest
-your visit to Montreal
-your contacting Elena's parents
-your visit with the Utah FBI
-your Moorestown detective
-your work as a police volunteer
-your contacting the SPVM
-your knowing my address

And now your latest bit of nonsense: posing as MichaelN. Funny how he posts from all the same locations in Pennsylvania that you used to post from. Funny how you no longer post from Mountain View without signing in. Funny how your respective posts appear minutes apart. Funny how you think anyone is fooled.
MichaelN

Allentown, PA

#689 Sep 4, 2015
Bob wrote:
You MaltaMon, are fighting a losing battle, that's for sure. Every one of your strategies against me has failed. Some of your concocted stories:
-your raped son
-the local and federal closing in
-my imminent arrest
-your visit to Montreal
-your contacting Elena's parents
-your visit with the Utah FBI
-your Moorestown detective
-your work as a police volunteer
-your contacting the SPVM
-your knowing my address
And now your latest bit of nonsense: posing as MichaelN. Funny how he posts from all the same locations in Pennsylvania that you used to post from. Funny how you no longer post from Mountain View without signing in. Funny how your respective posts appear minutes apart. Funny how you think anyone is fooled.
I'm not posing, Bob. Nobody has tried to fool u or anybody. Just u & that queer DJW, who post under our names and everyone else's.. Yur too stupid to realize it, Bob. So what else is new? It's lots of fun to watch you obsess over it. Bite a raging queer's fart, Moron! Ur face is already in the perfect place for it, I'm sure! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Bob

Montréal, Canada

#690 Sep 4, 2015
It's funny how you you seem to think I "obsess" about it. I don't. I'm iust not fooled by your obvious charade, MaltaMon.

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