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Ecuadorian president to step down if links to rebels are proved

There are 37 comments on the www.earthtimes.org story from May 18, 2008, titled Ecuadorian president to step down if links to rebels are proved. In it, www.earthtimes.org reports that:

Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa said Saturday in Lima that he is willing to step down from power if it is proved that his government has backed the leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia .

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Juan Moe-time

Laurel, MS

#1 May 19, 2008
Oh....how childlike. Bless Correa's little broken heart. Has the bad press gotten the best of him again? You know this is the third time he has thrown out this "I will quit if I don't get my way" crap. The fact is his involvement with FARC has already been proven....so when is his last day? Rafa's been watching too many drama stories. If this guy is presidential material then so is my DOG!
Topale

United States

#2 May 20, 2008
Correa is but criminal in a suit. He should not only resign, he should be expelled from Ecuador to a prison in Cuba with his friend Chavez.
Vangelist

San Francisco, CA

#3 May 20, 2008
Correa tells it like it is and won't take that Paramilitary NARCO BUSH!T from Uribe.

In the same thought... G. W. Bush!t should have put his job on the line if NO WMDs were found.
Juan Moe-time

Laurel, MS

#4 May 20, 2008
Maybe Correa tells it like it is in his own warped mind. You know.....I think sometimes he actually believes some of his own BS. In my life, I've never seen or heard of anyone who is so quick to accuse others of exactly what he is doing.

He will stir in anything that pits his adversaries against each other and at the same time cloud the issues and justify the crap that comes from his mouth.

Van......I'm amazed that someone who seems to be intellegent (as yourself) can be so terribly 'FOOLED' by the likes of Correa. What's your problem?
Vangelist wrote:
Correa tells it like it is and won't take that Paramilitary NARCO BUSH!T from Uribe.
In the same thought... G. W. Bush!t should have put his job on the line if NO WMDs were found.
Michelle

Boca Raton, FL

#5 May 20, 2008
Juan Moe-time wrote:
Maybe Correa tells it like it is in his own warped mind. You know.....I think sometimes he actually believes some of his own BS. In my life, I've never seen or heard of anyone who is so quick to accuse others of exactly what he is doing.
He will stir in anything that pits his adversaries against each other and at the same time cloud the issues and justify the crap that comes from his mouth.
Van......I'm amazed that someone who seems to be intellegent (as yourself) can be so terribly 'FOOLED' by the likes of Correa. What's your problem?
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Have you read Van's posts? Intellegent would not be my choice of words. He is eaither very idealistic, very young, or on Chavez' payroll. Or all three. That's how these guys work. My friend who regularly blogs in Ecuador says that she started coming across people who were extremely vulgar and started threatening her life. She realized thay were not Ecuadorians because of the language and jargon differences. When she accused them of not being Ecuadorians she never heard from them again. Chavez has his gargoyles everywhere. House of ALBA, which is all over Latin America, is funded by Chavez.
Juan Moe-time

Laurel, MS

#6 May 21, 2008
Michelle wrote:
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Have you read Van's posts? Intellegent would not be my choice of words. He is eaither very idealistic, very young, or on Chavez' payroll. Or all three. That's how these guys work. My friend who regularly blogs in Ecuador says that she started coming across people who were extremely vulgar and started threatening her life. She realized thay were not Ecuadorians because of the language and jargon differences. When she accused them of not being Ecuadorians she never heard from them again. Chavez has his gargoyles everywhere. House of ALBA, which is all over Latin America, is funded by Chavez.
How about it, Van? I think she's right. Is there any Comment from YOU?
Cue

“Rack-em, Sit, Shut-up, Repeat”

Since: Feb 08

Your Gene POOL Needs Chlorine

#7 May 21, 2008
Correa when embarrassed in front of Organization of American States by Uribe of Colombia could not keep his mouth shut. He is as stupid as the Bolivian president Evo Morales, with a 4th grade education. Chaves the other idiot has gotten very quiet of late regarding this issue except for announcing he may leave INTERPOL. When you are caught with your hand in the cookie jar sometimes desperation sets in. Correa looks the part especially as he was rejected in Europe on his recent travels for support for his innocence. Now the FARC commanders are giving up in droves with additional information for Colombia repatriation. Karina the highest ranking female FARC commander who surrendered just this week and probably responsible for killing URIBES father is spilling her guts as I type.

Carrea you still here? Go away you ignorant pest.
Loggi

Colombia

#8 May 21, 2008
Corea is waiting for further instructions from his master Chavez. The spineless twit had nothing to say about Colombia`s strike in his country, until his master started barking. They should both be tried in the Hauge
Michelle

Boca Raton, FL

#9 May 24, 2008
Even in Ecuador they at laughing at Correa's ridiculous announcements of quitting. He ordered the Ecuadorian assembly, which he has complete control over, to investigate the FARC connections. How stupid does he think Ecuadorians are?
NWG

United States

#10 May 24, 2008
Hey you moron, this isn't about Bush! Get a clue!
NWG

United States

#11 May 24, 2008
The comment is for you Van
Vangelist

San Francisco, CA

#12 May 26, 2008
Loggi wrote:
Corea is waiting for further instructions from his master Chavez. The spineless twit had nothing to say about Colombia`s strike in his country, until his master started barking. They should both be tried in the Hauge
Fortunately... It is the NARCO PARAMILITARY URIBE who is being tried in the Hauge and in Colombia.

Just because someone is SOCIALIST doesn't make them a TERRORIST. However, the Uribe government is stained with blood.
Cue

“Rack-em, Sit, Shut-up, Repeat”

Since: Feb 08

Your Gene POOL Needs Chlorine

#13 May 26, 2008
Vangelist wrote:
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Fortunately... It is the NARCO PARAMILITARY URIBE who is being tried in the Hauge and in Colombia.
Just because someone is SOCIALIST doesn't make them a TERRORIST. However, the Uribe government is stained with blood.
Par-military was necessary to protect the people in regions where no regular military used to venture. People were dying at the hands of FARC with no protection so they hired people to defend them. I would have done the same damn thing if I had the money. FARC killed Uribe’s father for christ sake and Karina who probably did it just turned herself in. Para-Military has become a political ploy not exactly supported by the majority of the Colombian population. They served a need and now they are disbanding.

You obviously know little about the situation.
Vangelist

San Francisco, CA

#14 May 27, 2008
Cue wrote:
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Par-military was necessary to protect the people in regions where no regular military used to venture. People were dying at the hands of FARC with no protection so they hired people to defend them. I would have done the same damn thing if I had the money. FARC killed Uribe’s father for christ sake and Karina who probably did it just turned herself in. Para-Military has become a political ploy not exactly supported by the majority of the Colombian population. They served a need and now they are disbanding.
You obviously know little about the situation.
Most PARAS have just been armed NARCO THUGS mainly from city based cartels... The PARAS kill CAMPESINOS and expropriated lands to hand over to NARCO CARTELS. The Uribe government is littered with DIRTY PARA politicians. He told most PARAS to cool it since the Army can do the dirty work. Most CITY Colombians don't care what happens to the CAMPESINOS.
By ideology the FARC has made friends and defend CAMPESINOS.
Cue

“Rack-em, Sit, Shut-up, Repeat”

Since: Feb 08

Your Gene POOL Needs Chlorine

#15 May 27, 2008
Vangelist wrote:
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Most PARAS have just been armed NARCO THUGS mainly from city based cartels... The PARAS kill CAMPESINOS and expropriated lands to hand over to NARCO CARTELS. The Uribe government is littered with DIRTY PARA politicians. He told most PARAS to cool it since the Army can do the dirty work. Most CITY Colombians don't care what happens to the CAMPESINOS.
By ideology the FARC has made friends and defend CAMPESINOS.
You made some valid points however the military was not exactly supporting the rural areas in the beginning. No where to be seen and the people were left to fend for themselves and hiring a bunch of NARCO thugs was their only option. Did it turn out perfectly – hell no -- but if the military had done their job in the beginning the PARA-MILITARY would not have been in existence. To blame Uribe and the Colombian government of today for past military malfeasance is a political ploy to discredit an administration that has done more for his country and ending this 50 year than any president before him.

I know of the death squads by the PARA-MILITARY as well FARC, my brother in law travels these areas each and every day by car trying to determine whom he is talking when stopped. It is a chess game for the people and if they say the wrong thing to the wrong person they die. Unlike you I do not blame Uribe or other people for trying to protect his family, it could have turned out better but I doubt if they could have hired a convent of nuns to protect them at the time. Colombia is in a war unless you forget.

I will agree with your statement that Colombian citizens that live in the cities do not sympathize enough with the rural situation. I equate that with every protest parade they have regarding any important issue. It is just another big party and a few extra hours to socialize in the streets. It is the culture and sadly if the drama does not affect them directly they do seem disenfranchised, especially regarding the suffering of the rural community. I think in my view the length of this conflict has numbed and polarized the population.
Vangelist

San Francisco, CA

#16 May 27, 2008
Cue wrote:
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You made some valid points however the military was not exactly supporting the rural areas in the beginning. No where to be seen and the people were left to fend for themselves and hiring a bunch of NARCO thugs was their only option. Did it turn out perfectly – hell no -- but if the military had done their job in the beginning the PARA-MILITARY would not have been in existence. To blame Uribe and the Colombian government of today for past military malfeasance is a political ploy to discredit an administration that has done more for his country and ending this 50 year than any president before him.
I know of the death squads by the PARA-MILITARY as well FARC, my brother in law travels these areas each and every day by car trying to determine whom he is talking when stopped. It is a chess game for the people and if they say the wrong thing to the wrong person they die. Unlike you I do not blame Uribe or other people for trying to protect his family, it could have turned out better but I doubt if they could have hired a convent of nuns to protect them at the time. Colombia is in a war unless you forget.
I will agree with your statement that Colombian citizens that live in the cities do not sympathize enough with the rural situation. I equate that with every protest parade they have regarding any important issue. It is just another big party and a few extra hours to socialize in the streets. It is the culture and sadly if the drama does not affect them directly they do seem disenfranchised, especially regarding the suffering of the rural community. I think in my view the length of this conflict has numbed and polarized the population.
Yes... IT IS A CIVIL WAR that has been going on for 60 years. Unfortunately, political peace solutions in the past have not settled the whole thing.

I can see why many CITY colombians approve of what Uribe has been doing... The hard line PREEMPTIVE WAR BUSH!T tactics keep the fighting in other areas. It is better than the 90s when M-19 and the NARCOs held the cities hostage. Also, PLAN COLOMBIA brings $$$$$$$ which mainly stay in CITY dwellers hands.

In any case, I noticed you also see this conflict from another point of view... The CAMPESINOS... I think you would agree that 'the campesinos' would like a political diplomatic solution.

From Ecuador (a peaceful neighbor's) point of view the PREEMPTIVE WAR BUSH!T tactics are NOT acceptable this has also been supported by all the Organization of American States - OAS (except USA ???)

Hopefully, This gets settle soon without more blood... The Correa Government has stated it's position and willingness to help PEACEFULLY and HUMANITARIANLY.
Cue

“Rack-em, Sit, Shut-up, Repeat”

Since: Feb 08

Your Gene POOL Needs Chlorine

#17 May 27, 2008
Vangelist wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes... IT IS A CIVIL WAR that has been going on for 60 years. Unfortunately, political peace solutions in the past have not settled the whole thing.
I can see why many CITY colombians approve of what Uribe has been doing... The hard line PREEMPTIVE WAR BUSH!T tactics keep the fighting in other areas. It is better than the 90s when M-19 and the NARCOs held the cities hostage. Also, PLAN COLOMBIA brings $$$$$$$ which mainly stay in CITY dwellers hands.
In any case, I noticed you also see this conflict from another point of view... The CAMPESINOS... I think you would agree that 'the campesinos' would like a political diplomatic solution.
From Ecuador (a peaceful neighbor's) point of view the PREEMPTIVE WAR BUSH!T tactics are NOT acceptable this has also been supported by all the Organization of American States - OAS (except USA ???)
Hopefully, This gets settle soon without more blood... The Correa Government has stated it's position and willingness to help PEACEFULLY and HUMANITARIANLY.
Well my friend I was sitting on my balcony in Bogota last June giving my one finger salute to GWB as his motorcade hurried in and out of the country with his cursory visit to Uribe. He and his policies are moronic.

Colombians, in general city or otherwise, would like a peaceful solution to this war. That being said Ecuador as is Venezuela {where most of the hostages are} has been supporting and financing FARC for a long while. Colombia has been aware of it and finally had a chance to further their case and did. Yes the OAS denounced the invasion as they should have however not one disputed the evidence recovered and verified through Interpol best I can recall. The OAS may not be the ultimate international forum as the proof will soon be will be presented to the United Nations.

Ecuadorian, Venezuelan and Colombian people are, best I can tell after 20 years traveling to the region, very similar to their approach to life. Peace is all they want and if a diplomatic solution could be the answer all the better. I too hope it gets settled soon as I plan to retire to Bogota in a few years. I would enjoy attending the celebration of all three countries in this peaceful resolution.

We can agree to disagree on some points – no?
Palabra

New York, NY

#18 May 28, 2008
It is too simplistic to lump Correa together with Chavez, or with Morales, or with Castro. Correa has his pitfalls (too quick to verbally castigate the press and other political opponents.) But as a democraticaly elected president, having won the referendum for rewriting the Constitution and then winning a majority of the Constitutional Assemby members, he is hardly the criminal that Michelle and other posters claim.

No government would fail to complain when a foreign armed force crosses it's border without permission. The Correa government has closed down more coca labs in Northern Ecuador than any of the previous governments and arrested a FARC leader in Quito yeterday.

As you all know, not too many Presidents in recent Ecuador history have been able to finish their terms. Hopefully there will be enough political stability in Ecuador to see if Correa's ideas can improve the living standards. If not, he can be voted out.
Vangelst

San Francisco, CA

#19 May 28, 2008
Cue wrote:
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Well my friend I was sitting on my balcony in Bogota last June giving my one finger salute to GWB as his motorcade hurried in and out of the country with his cursory visit to Uribe. He and his policies are moronic.
Colombians, in general city or otherwise, would like a peaceful solution to this war. That being said Ecuador as is Venezuela {where most of the hostages are} has been supporting and financing FARC for a long while. Colombia has been aware of it and finally had a chance to further their case and did. Yes the OAS denounced the invasion as they should have however not one disputed the evidence recovered and verified through Interpol best I can recall. The OAS may not be the ultimate international forum as the proof will soon be will be presented to the United Nations.
Ecuadorian, Venezuelan and Colombian people are, best I can tell after 20 years traveling to the region, very similar to their approach to life. Peace is all they want and if a diplomatic solution could be the answer all the better. I too hope it gets settled soon as I plan to retire to Bogota in a few years. I would enjoy attending the celebration of all three countries in this peaceful resolution.
We can agree to disagree on some points – no?
How can you say "...Ecuador as is Venezuela {where most of the hostages are} has been supporting and financing FARC for a long while."

1.- This WAR is COLOMBIA's problem... Uribe would like to make it a regional problem... NO WAY... Correa is not falling for that... Available to help liberate hostages and intercede for peace... BUT keep the WAR in Colombia.

2.- Colombia is a BIG country... FARC has control of many areas. Hostages in Venezuela ?(GET REAL).

3.- The Correa government has been around for 2 years taking care of Ecuador (They are NOT supporting FARC)... The FARC has been around 40+ years (GET REAL).
Michelle

Boca Raton, FL

#20 May 28, 2008
In 2006 Venezuelans warned Ecuadorians about Correa.

http://www.diariolavoz.net/seccion.asp...

Correa has acted exactly the way Venzuelans predicted he would. Idi Amin was democraticaly elected, that doesn't change the fact that he turned into a dictator.

Illegally throwing out the constitution and democratically elected politicians amounts to dictatorship. "Gobernante que asume todos los poderes del Estado y que no se somete a control constitucional ni legislativo alguno" http://www.wordreference.com/definicion/dicta...

FARC is not only Colombia's problem. Terrorists criminals are everyone's problem. There has been exstensive evidence proving that Correa's government was not only funded by FARC, they also supported them.

Uribe is loved by Colombians. I'm so glad that Peru and Colombia are doing so well economically. Too bad we can't say the same for Ecuador.

Ecuadorians, like Bolivians, are waking up and are willing to take a stand. http://www.petitiononline.com/hv3c2007/petiti...

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