Is Lisa Miller Hiding as a Missionary in Ecuador?

Sep 6, 2010 Full story: lezgetreal.com 62

Lezgetreal has continued to maintain a pulse on missing child abductor Lisa Miller. After a long and complex custody battle between lesbian Mother Janet Jenkins and ‘ex-lesbian’, now turned missionary Lisa Miller, the US Courts finally granted custody to Janet Jenkins, based on Miller’s failure to adhere Court orders. Lezgetreal has received information that Lisa Miller is hiding out as a Missionary in Quito Ecuador.

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“ALREADY LEGALLY MARRIED AND ”

Since: Jul 09

YOU CAN'T DO SH@T ABOUT IT!!!

#27 Sep 8, 2010
true wrote:
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Why? Because what she is doing is illegal and is what should happen to anyone who violates a custody order and kidnaps a child!!!

Sorry, but all Lisa Miller had to do was either show cause for why she was preventing Janet Jenkins from Isabelle or allow visitation.........neither did she do!!!!

This has always and will be on Lisa Miller and the one truly suffering is Isabella!!!!
Disgusted American

Cranbury, NJ

#28 Sep 8, 2010
DustyShadow wrote:
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How on earth do you get seedy motels and sleeping in a car out of "missionary in ecuador"? In addition, no matter what her living conditions, Lisa goes with God. Whatever is happening now is way better than living in sin and corruption in a lesbian relationship. She is free ... free of the of being controlled by perverted desires. Something tells me you don't enjoy that freedom.
Oh listen it speaks from the "Alabama" sector of Pa....FYI - NO man-made god gives a ratz behind what people do with thier hoo-hoos or pee-pees. It's Fake/man-made religion to keep the Sheeple (like you) under control, and thier coffers full $$$...for fools like you. In OUR Galaxy with 100's of Billions of Stars/Suns...and 100's of Billions of planets...which is 100,000 light yrs across, in a Universe with 100's of Billions of Galaxies...we Humans are NOT that Important in the scheme of the Universe. Grow up! watch this and educate yourself to reality.

&fe ature=channel
Disgusted American

Cranbury, NJ

#29 Sep 8, 2010
there are more STARS/SUNS and PLANETS in OUR Universe then there are ALL the GRAINS of Sand on the Planet earth!(Think about that)

“I'm not gay, I'm celisexual!”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#30 Sep 8, 2010
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>If they know where she is now, they can ARREST her and return the child to its RIGHTFUL parent.
The child is with her rightful parent. I think you are confusing Lisa Miller with the imposter, Janet Jenkins.

“ALREADY LEGALLY MARRIED AND ”

Since: Jul 09

YOU CAN'T DO SH@T ABOUT IT!!!

#31 Sep 8, 2010
The Virgin Queen1 wrote:
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The child is with her rightful parent. I think you are confusing Lisa Miller with the imposter, Janet Jenkins.
No......and this is where we differ.......at this moment in time.....the "RIGHTFUL" parent is Janet Jenkins.

Lisa Miller is a fugitive and at this point is more harmful to the child!!!

You don't have to like it or agree with it.....but without evidence that Janet is unfit to parent........Lisa is the one clearly not looking good.

And please don't give the crap about one being the biological and one not........BEING A GOOD PARENT HAS NOT A DAMN THING TO DO WITH BIOLOGY!!!
true

United States

#32 Sep 9, 2010
RnL_4EVR_MARRIED wrote:
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Why? Because what she is doing is illegal and is what should happen to anyone who violates a custody order and kidnaps a child!!!
Sorry, but all Lisa Miller had to do was either show cause for why she was preventing Janet Jenkins from Isabelle or allow visitation.........neither did she do!!!!
This has always and will be on Lisa Miller and the one truly suffering is Isabella!!!!
i will give you rightfull cause, its because she has seen the light and does not want the child anymore infected with the immoral sickness of being a part of thecarpetmuncher crowd. if your kind can produce your own have at it but pussnboots just cant make a baby now can they, you are reprobate and should either drink some drano or just hide from what will be reaped
Curteese

Cathedral City, CA

#33 Sep 9, 2010
true wrote:
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i will give you rightfull cause, its because she has seen the light and does not want the child anymore infected with the immoral sickness of being a part of thecarpetmuncher crowd. if your kind can produce your own have at it but pussnboots just cant make a baby now can they, you are reprobate and should either drink some drano or just hide from what will be reaped
I hope I outlive you so I can piss on your lonely muddy grave. I will have asparagus for lunch before hand to make your grave drink nice and rank and you can drink my "root beer" for eternity.
I used to try to reason with you cruel people, but I may as well be chatting up a mad dog.
Go die so you can suck on Jesus for eternity and it will be win win for all of us.

“ALREADY LEGALLY MARRIED AND ”

Since: Jul 09

YOU CAN'T DO SH@T ABOUT IT!!!

#34 Sep 9, 2010
true wrote:
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i will give you rightfull cause, its because she has seen the light and does not want the child anymore infected with the immoral sickness of being a part of thecarpetmuncher crowd. if your kind can produce your own have at it but pussnboots just cant make a baby now can they, you are reprobate and should either drink some drano or just hide from what will be reaped
Hey STUPID.....I can and have produced my own child!!!!

As for this situation......it is Lisa Miller causing the harm and damage to the child!!!!

Now kindly go jump in a lake and take some electricity with you!!!

“I'm not gay, I'm celisexual!”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#35 Sep 9, 2010
RnL_4EVR_MARRIED wrote:
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Hey STUPID.....I can and have produced my own child!!!!
As for this situation......it is Lisa Miller causing the harm and damage to the child!!!!
Right. By being a mother to her child? Or is the fear that she might actually raise that child to have faith-based values that has everyone stirred up?

Whatever.

“ALREADY LEGALLY MARRIED AND ”

Since: Jul 09

YOU CAN'T DO SH@T ABOUT IT!!!

#36 Sep 9, 2010
The Virgin Queen1 wrote:
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Right. By being a mother to her child? Or is the fear that she might actually raise that child to have faith-based values that has everyone stirred up?
Whatever.
You know.....I have posted pretty civil stuff to you in the last couple of weeks......and you have opted to ignore them......but because I believe differently in this particular case.......now you want to respond.......whatever is exactly the point!!!

You truly have no idea what Janet Jenkins is like or her religious beliefs......but I believe most of us are responding out of what we have read and not what is truly the truth.

If this was taking place with regards to a heterosexual couple......and the woman had done this to the child's father without provocation.......WE WOULD BE OUTRAGED BY IT, but because it is happening between a woman who has supposedly changed her sexual orientation and her ex-partner.......somehow you and those like you feel she is justified......AND I DISAGREE!!

I feel that Lisa Miller had every opportunity to do it the right way......and when it didn't go her way........she opted to disregard the law and hide. This is not an admirable trait.........why? Because there are parents out there everyday trying to get the State Department to help get their abducted children back from their foreign national spouses!!!!

Hate me, disagree with me all you want......that won't change this situation or the laws that have been put into place!!!
true

United States

#37 Sep 9, 2010
RnL_4EVR_MARRIED wrote:
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Hey STUPID.....I can and have produced my own child!!!!
As for this situation......it is Lisa Miller causing the harm and damage to the child!!!!
Now kindly go jump in a lake and take some electricity with you!!!
no you cant, stop lying to yourself, your probably fat, ugly and for the most part disgusting, so just admit that to yourself and you will feel better
true

United States

#38 Sep 9, 2010
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>I hope I outlive you so I can piss on your lonely muddy grave. I will have asparagus for lunch before hand to make your grave drink nice and rank and you can drink my "root beer" for eternity.
I used to try to reason with you cruel people, but I may as well be chatting up a mad dog.
Go die so you can suck on Jesus for eternity and it will be win win for all of us.
as for you, your a embarrassment to your family, and you know it, no one else wanted you so you found a sheman dyke that has that man tool you pretend is the real thing, but it isnt

“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

Since: Jun 08

Doylestown, PA

#39 Sep 9, 2010
The Virgin Queen1 wrote:
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Right. By being a mother to her child? Or is the fear that she might actually raise that child to have faith-based values that has everyone stirred up?
Whatever.
Syphlitic, defaming, moron Vaginal Cream is lying again.

The law breaking, talibangelical fugitive could have raised the child as she saw fit (within the bound of secular law, i.e., no "Bible" mandated child abuse,) except the bigoted loon wouldn't permit court ordered visitation from her lesbian ex.

_Then_ the buybull bigot lost custody. Because she wouldn't permit simple visitation.

“ALREADY LEGALLY MARRIED AND ”

Since: Jul 09

YOU CAN'T DO SH@T ABOUT IT!!!

#40 Sep 9, 2010
UNtrue wrote:
Nothing worth re-posting
Wow, another troll who can't get out of their own homophobic way......lol:)

As for having a child......yep....I surely did......and have the marks to prove it!!!!
Curteese

Cathedral City, CA

#43 Sep 9, 2010
true wrote:
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no you cant, stop lying to yourself, your probably fat, ugly and for the most part disgusting, so just admit that to yourself and you will feel better
Well, I bet you are God's gift to humanity and are this teensy bit from being a super model. Let's see your pretty puss, please. Let's see your gorgeous face. It'd bring down the internet. And not in a good way.
true

United States

#44 Sep 9, 2010
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Well, I bet you are God's gift to humanity and are this teensy bit from being a super model. Let's see your pretty puss, please. Let's see your gorgeous face. It'd bring down the internet. And not in a good way.
im like that cute pug dog thats ugly but so cute and body wise haha in your dreams enough to make you straight and the tools to complete

“I'm not gay, I'm celisexual!”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#46 Sep 10, 2010
RnL_4EVR_MARRIED wrote:
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Why? Because what she is doing is illegal
Any law that makes what Lisa Miller did ilegal is unjust and deserves to be defied.
RnL_4EVR_MARRIED wrote:
<quoted text>
and is what should happen to anyone who violates a custody order and kidnaps a child!!!
Sorry, but all Lisa Miller had to do was either show cause for why she was preventing Janet Jenkins from Isabelle or allow visitation.........neither did she do!!!!
Why should she? She already knew the courts were not going to honor her religious beliefs. Nor should she have allowed visitation. To do so would have violated her religious beliefs.
RnL_4EVR_MARRIED wrote:
<quoted text>
This has always and will be on Lisa Miller
No it's "on" Janet Jenkins who at any moment could have walked away and left this mother and child alone. Instead she used the court system to harass them to the degree where Lisa Miller had to take her child and go into hiding to get away from her.
RnL_4EVR_MARRIED wrote:
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and the one truly suffering is Isabelle
Yeah, right. Suffering because she's with her mother. People like you who want to rip this child from her mother and instead hand her over to a complete stranger in order to prove some political point are the ones who want to make this child suffer.

Run Lisa, run.
Anonymous

Minot, ND

#47 Sep 10, 2010
If they left in September 2009, Lisa Miller had official custody of Isabella. She was also the only parent listed on the child's birth certificate and would have been able to obtain a passport for her with no questions asked and no one's permission required, unless the court had put some sort of hold on her getting a passport. Legally, she wasn't breaking any laws when she took the child out of the country. Ecuador and El Salvador are both parties to the Hague Convention, but their compliance with that international law is pretty spotty, based on what I've seen, and the Hague Convention also allows the respondent parent to present several defenses as to why the chid shouldn't be returned to the home country. Among the accepted defenses are that the child is settled in her current environment for at least a year or that returning the child would cause great emotional or moral or physical harm or that the party requesting the child's return did not have custody and was not exercising custodial rights at the time of the child's disappearance, etc.

Based on the news reports, Isabella Miller-Jenkins always lived with Lisa Miller and has not lived with Janet Jenkins since she was 17 months old. She didn't have a close relationship with her, didn't see her as her mother and had, at most, a couple of visitations with Jenkins. Miller is her biological mother, her primary caregiver and was acknowledged by all to be a good and caring mother until she avoided the custody order. Isabella has been raised in an evangelical Christian environment. Sending her to live with Jenkins would undoubtedly be traumatic in the extreme. From one perspective, that's undoubtedly the fault of Lisa Miller, but regardless of whose fault it is she'd be traumatized to be sent to live with a virtual stranger in an environment that is totally alien to her. I suspect that the trauma to the child would be taken into account in a court in Ecuador or El Salvador or any other South American country. Both are heavily Roman Catholic countries and I don't believe either recognizes same sex marriage. Assuming they actually locate Miller in Ecuador there's little guarantee that law enforcement would take any action against her. If it goes to court, there's also a pretty good chance that she wouldn't be sent back to the U.S. The case will probably take years. It'll be interesting to see what actually happens but I doubt she'll be ordered to return to the United States.
RLR

Minneapolis, MN

#48 Sep 10, 2010
Run, Lisa! Run!

“ALREADY LEGALLY MARRIED AND ”

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YOU CAN'T DO SH@T ABOUT IT!!!

#49 Sep 10, 2010
Anonymous wrote:
If they left in September 2009, Lisa Miller had official custody of Isabella. She was also the only parent listed on the child's birth certificate and would have been able to obtain a passport for her with no questions asked and no one's permission required, unless the court had put some sort of hold on her getting a passport. Legally, she wasn't breaking any laws when she took the child out of the country. Ecuador and El Salvador are both parties to the Hague Convention, but their compliance with that international law is pretty spotty, based on what I've seen, and the Hague Convention also allows the respondent parent to present several defenses as to why the chid shouldn't be returned to the home country. Among the accepted defenses are that the child is settled in her current environment for at least a year or that returning the child would cause great emotional or moral or physical harm or that the party requesting the child's return did not have custody and was not exercising custodial rights at the time of the child's disappearance, etc.
Based on the news reports, Isabella Miller-Jenkins always lived with Lisa Miller and has not lived with Janet Jenkins since she was 17 months old. She didn't have a close relationship with her, didn't see her as her mother and had, at most, a couple of visitations with Jenkins. Miller is her biological mother, her primary caregiver and was acknowledged by all to be a good and caring mother until she avoided the custody order. Isabella has been raised in an evangelical Christian environment. Sending her to live with Jenkins would undoubtedly be traumatic in the extreme. From one perspective, that's undoubtedly the fault of Lisa Miller, but regardless of whose fault it is she'd be traumatized to be sent to live with a virtual stranger in an environment that is totally alien to her. I suspect that the trauma to the child would be taken into account in a court in Ecuador or El Salvador or any other South American country. Both are heavily Roman Catholic countries and I don't believe either recognizes same sex marriage. Assuming they actually locate Miller in Ecuador there's little guarantee that law enforcement would take any action against her. If it goes to court, there's also a pretty good chance that she wouldn't be sent back to the U.S. The case will probably take years. It'll be interesting to see what actually happens but I doubt she'll be ordered to return to the United States.
Would you feel the same way if this had happened between a divorced heterosexual couple?

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