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Native Groups Express Solidarity with Bolivian Leader

There are 50 comments on the Inside Costa Rica story from Sep 23, 2008, titled Native Groups Express Solidarity with Bolivian Leader. In it, Inside Costa Rica reports that:

By Kintto Lucas QUITO - Indigenous organisations from several countries in Latin America declared their solidarity with Bolivian President Evo Morales with respect to the crisis in his country, and are ...

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IRON

Arlington, VA

#1 Sep 23, 2008
You should have added the words "Highland" Native Groups Express Solidarity with Bolivian Leader. The eastern of Bolivia or "Lowland" also has many indian groups but they are not even being consider as indians by the president nor are they mentioned by any international entity. So, is it ok to take the land of by force of the eastern indians by the western ones?
jandjtogether

Santa Cruz De La Sierra, Bolivia

#2 Sep 24, 2008
IRON wrote:
You should have added the words "Highland" Native Groups Express Solidarity with Bolivian Leader. The eastern of Bolivia or "Lowland" also has many indian groups but they are not even being consider as indians by the president nor are they mentioned by any international entity. So, is it ok to take the land of by force of the eastern indians by the western ones?
You are correct and your observation is just another example of leftist media bias. The liberal media are enamored with this murdering indian president. And when will the world media explore the background of his equally evil vice president; who is a convicted murderer?

And these two gangsters are the elected leaders of this country. Bolivia's leaders demonstrate to most rational people (the Irish Observer not included) that a pure democracy is not a purely good thing. A representative republic like the United States, U.K., Canada etc. are much better suited to protect the various minorities than 'democracies' such as North Korea where leader Kim Jong Il wins the presidential election every time. It's like this... "Hi, I'm Fidel Castro and I am running for president. My opponent is dead or in jail. I can't remember. Nonetheless, I need your support. Please vote for me on election day. BTW, ballots here are not secret and so we know how you vote. If you don't vote for me, we'll fire you and none of the government (socialist) controlled businesses will hire you or your family. Thanks for your support."
AntiChe

Inez, KY

#3 Sep 24, 2008
That is certainly how Chavez does it. Well said.
muleman

United States

#4 Sep 24, 2008
jandjtogether wrote:
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You are correct and your observation is just another example of leftist media bias. The liberal media are enamored with this murdering indian president. And when will the world media explore the background of his equally evil vice president; who is a convicted murderer?
And these two gangsters are the elected leaders of this country. Bolivia's leaders demonstrate to most rational people (the Irish Observer not included) that a pure democracy is not a purely good thing. A representative republic like the United States, U.K., Canada etc. are much better suited to protect the various minorities than 'democracies' such as North Korea where leader Kim Jong Il wins the presidential election every time. It's like this... "Hi, I'm Fidel Castro and I am running for president. My opponent is dead or in jail. I can't remember. Nonetheless, I need your support. Please vote for me on election day. BTW, ballots here are not secret and so we know how you vote. If you don't vote for me, we'll fire you and none of the government (socialist) controlled businesses will hire you or your family. Thanks for your support."
the truth and nothing but the truth!!Kudo's to you.
muleman

United States

#5 Sep 24, 2008
AntiChe wrote:
That is certainly how Chavez does it. Well said.
True true !!! I have a lady here at work who's parents just left venenzela,last week to live in peru,cant take chavez and the power going out all the time,no milk,or food.they lived there twenty five years.
Tico

La Paz, Bolivia

#6 Sep 24, 2008
You should visit a psychiatrist, Paranoia? The "bolcheviks are coming"?
jandjtogether wrote:
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You are correct and your observation is just another example of leftist media bias. The liberal media are enamored with this murdering indian president. And when will the world media explore the background of his equally evil vice president; who is a convicted murderer?
And these two gangsters are the elected leaders of this country. Bolivia's leaders demonstrate to most rational people (the Irish Observer not included) that a pure democracy is not a purely good thing. A representative republic like the United States, U.K., Canada etc. are much better suited to protect the various minorities than 'democracies' such as North Korea where leader Kim Jong Il wins the presidential election every time. It's like this... "Hi, I'm Fidel Castro and I am running for president. My opponent is dead or in jail. I can't remember. Nonetheless, I need your support. Please vote for me on election day. BTW, ballots here are not secret and so we know how you vote. If you don't vote for me, we'll fire you and none of the government (socialist) controlled businesses will hire you or your family. Thanks for your support."
Tico

La Paz, Bolivia

#7 Sep 24, 2008
I'm tired Too many radicalized loonies here...... Including my blonde beauty "La Gringa" Viva Santa cruz bella tierra de mis corazon....

“Is that a penguin???”

Since: Sep 08

Santa Cruz, Bolivia

#8 Sep 24, 2008
omg tico tico tico...just because we state the truth does not make us loonies. come to the bright side!
Tico

La Paz, Bolivia

#9 Sep 24, 2008
The truth my sunshine haired Gringuita ???....If you say so.....but NO, your EVIL BEAUTY will not blind me, your beautiful fingers do not type the truth!
La Gringa wrote:
omg tico tico tico...just because we state the truth does not make us loonies. come to the bright side!
jandjtogether

Santa Cruz De La Sierra, Bolivia

#10 Sep 25, 2008
Tico wrote:
You should visit a psychiatrist, Paranoia? The "bolcheviks are coming"?
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What did I write that was incorrect? Can you answer that or are you just yelling and screaming like a scalded ape?

You imply that bolshevism is not necessarily a bad thing. If they were not dead, maybe the approximately 20,000,000 murdered Soviet victms of Stalinism might disagree with you. Then of course there are the millions of victims of the Bolshevik spawn in the former Soviet satellites of Eastern Europe, North Vietnam, Cuba, North Korea, China ... so on and so forth. I think that by now even someone as obtuse as you gets the point. Or maybe not.
jandjtogether

Santa Cruz De La Sierra, Bolivia

#11 Sep 25, 2008
Tico wrote:
The truth my sunshine haired Gringuita ???....If you say so.....but NO, your EVIL BEAUTY will not blind me, your beautiful fingers do not type the truth!
<quoted text>
And I should visit a psychiatrist? It sounds like you need to visit a brothel or a herd of sheep. LOL
Observer

Dublin, Ireland

#12 Sep 25, 2008
jandjtogether wrote:
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You are correct and your observation is just another example of leftist media bias. The liberal media are enamored with this murdering indian president. And when will the world media explore the background of his equally evil vice president; who is a convicted murderer?
It is indeed rich to hear the opposition to Evo talking about murder after what happened in places like Pando.
And to suggest that there is a media bias towards anything other than the United States and their viewpoints is so off-the-wall that it is clear you do not know anything about this subject.
Only in the United States itself are media groups - such as FOX - that are more supportive of American Imperialism.
muleman

United States

#13 Sep 25, 2008
jandjtogether wrote:
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And I should visit a psychiatrist? It sounds like you need to visit a brothel or a herd of sheep. LOL
Right on my brother good answer...he sounds maricon to me.try some barn yard animals.start with a ox!

“Is that a penguin???”

Since: Sep 08

Santa Cruz, Bolivia

#14 Sep 25, 2008
muleman wrote:
<quoted text>Right on my brother good answer...he sounds maricon to me.try some barn yard animals.start with a ox!
lol! thats great!
bolitica

Jacksonville, FL

#15 Sep 25, 2008
i cannot support the so called youth gangs who have turned into just a bunch of thugs, sorry no excuse for them. The have gotten the green light to vandalize and do harm, protests are no excuse. No matter how much one hates the mas movement, you cannot excuse these punks. The killings in Pando were wrong. They represent the opposition in a very bad way, if the opposition wishes to maintain credibility, they must denouce these gangs and distance themselves from them.. period. no excuse for them. angry comments on this blog will not
change this. Asi es. By the way who did Linera kill for him to be called a murderer? just asking.
oh and FOX news is ,so far, the only television media that will give both sides a chance to argue their view, a liberal person calls 50/50 coverage as "uneven and unfair",last time I took math 50/50 IS balanced. they are soooo used to 3%right and 97% left,that they are astounded to hear more than a few seconds of the right speaking at all. Asi es.
Live from Bolivia

Santa Cruz, Bolivia

#16 Sep 25, 2008
Observer wrote:
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It is indeed rich to hear the opposition to Evo talking about murder after what happened in places like Pando.
And to suggest that there is a media bias towards anything other than the United States and their viewpoints is so off-the-wall that it is clear you do not know anything about this subject.
Only in the United States itself are media groups - such as FOX - that are more supportive of American Imperialism.
Imperialism is not a word educated people generally use. It is not a word rational people generally use. It is a word used by extremists who have no explanation for their abuse of others, so they have to invent a scapegoat - like "oh those American imperialists" to take the attention off their own failures. Unfortunately, the uneducated masses follow these people and repeat their phrases (like imperialist, or oligarch) even though they have NO IDEA and NO UNDERSTANDING of what those words mean.

I went to the Ramada market this morning here in Santa Cruz, Bolivia. I asked a lady how much a tiny table costs. She gave me a huge price - Bs. 450. When I asked her "are you sure"? She replied, "Well, if you don't like the price I'm not going to sell to an imperialista".

I asked her "do you know what the word "imperialista" means?

She had no idea. She couldn't answer. She stuttered and then just shut her mouth and gave me a mad look.

There were 6 other vendors selling the same table (same size). They all gave me the same price: Bs. 120 (nearly 4 times less her price). I bought three. She lost a good sale - more than she would normally make in a month. But that's beside the point.

Here's the point:

99% of the population here either doesn't know what the word imperialism means or has 15,985 different definitions. They use it because Evo uses it. They don't ask what it means. They don't know what they are fighting for or against at all. They just follow blindly.(Same with the word oligarch. They have no idea what the word means - but they use it all the time.)

Imperialism is a word made fashionable by dictator wanna-be's.

Fidel Castro coined it and made it fashionable among dictators and dictator wanna-be's.

Y con eso te dije todo.
Live from Bolivia

Santa Cruz, Bolivia

#17 Sep 25, 2008
Observer wrote:
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It is indeed rich to hear the opposition to Evo talking about murder after what happened in places like Pando.
And to suggest that there is a media bias towards anything other than the United States and their viewpoints is so off-the-wall that it is clear you do not know anything about this subject.
Only in the United States itself are media groups - such as FOX - that are more supportive of American Imperialism.
Here is what EVO MORALES supporters did on May 4th, WAAAAAAAY before anything happened in Pando (on September 11th) when the population of Santa Cruz, Tarija, Beni, and Pando went to vote for autonomy.

Autonomy is not a separatist movement and the government allowed us to vote on autonomy legally. Now they claim we are separatists and autonomy is illegal, that we are oligarchs, imperialists, etc.

They allowed us to vote legally for autonomy because they did not believe more than 84% of the population would actually vote YES for Autonomy.

Now they regret it because it has become obvious that over 84% of the population wants each state to have some control over its own resources and budgets. By the way, that is WAY more than Evo's whiny 67% majority.

Autonomy is not separatism. It is the exact same system the United States has. All 50 U.S. states are autonomous states. It is also what Mexico has. By the way, Mexico's real name is The United States of Mexico.

So why is it OK in other countries and not OK in Bolivia?

Is it democracy when people go to vote legally at a legal vote at legal voting urns and Evo's people destroy the voting urns, rip up their voting slips, destroy a school building, and club and stone them? This is the violence Evo spreads and WANTS because he wants to be a totalitarian dictator and autonomy is not convenient to his government because he wants to nationalize and centralize everything under his command.

You should get both sides of the story before you continue to open your big never-been-to-bolivia mouth.

jandjtogether

Santa Cruz De La Sierra, Bolivia

#18 Sep 25, 2008
Observer wrote:
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It is indeed rich to hear the opposition to Evo talking about murder after what happened in places like Pando.
And to suggest that there is a media bias towards anything other than the United States and their viewpoints is so off-the-wall that it is clear you do not know anything about this subject.
Only in the United States itself are media groups - such as FOX - that are more supportive of American Imperialism.
First of all you don't know what happened in Pando. You are clueless. Really. You ARE clueless.

Secondly, who suggested "that there is a media bias towards anything other than the United States and their viewpoints"?

I seriously think that you have cognitive problems that prevent you from understanding what you read or that you have such serious emotional problems that you refuse to acknowledge what you know was written.

Either way, you are one seriously screwed up person and I think that the reason you that spend so much time on the internet is that you are not emotionally stable enough to develop human relationships. Basically, no one can stand being around such a pig headed fool as you and so you don't have any friends. Thus, you have to satisfy your desire for interpersonal relationship by loitering around the internet all day. Sad and pathetic. But understandable.

BTW... American imperialism? Dude, get a life.
Observer

Dublin, Ireland

#19 Sep 26, 2008
jandjtogether wrote:
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First of all you don't know what happened in Pando. You are clueless. Really. You ARE clueless.
Secondly, who suggested "that there is a media bias towards anything other than the United States and their viewpoints"?
I seriously think that you have cognitive problems that prevent you from understanding what you read or that you have such serious emotional problems that you refuse to acknowledge what you know was written.
Either way, you are one seriously screwed up person and I think that the reason you that spend so much time on the internet is that you are not emotionally stable enough to develop human relationships. Basically, no one can stand being around such a pig headed fool as you and so you don't have any friends. Thus, you have to satisfy your desire for interpersonal relationship by loitering around the internet all day. Sad and pathetic. But understandable.
BTW... American imperialism? Dude, get a life.
More insults, dross, etc - may I point out that you are on the internet too writing comments....

If you think the media on this side of the world likes Chavez or Castro in particular then you have cognitive problems. Then again you seem to think the USA is not an imperialist power when they have 2 countries under military occupation..
Thats really clueless.
Observer

Dublin, Ireland

#20 Sep 26, 2008
Live from Bolivia wrote:
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Imperialism is not a word educated people generally use. It is not a word rational people generally use. It is a word used by extremists who have no explanation for their abuse of others, so they have to invent a scapegoat - like "oh those American imperialists" to take the attention off their own failures. Unfortunately, the uneducated masses follow these people and repeat their phrases (like imperialist, or oligarch) even though they have NO IDEA and NO UNDERSTANDING of what those words mean.
I went to the Ramada market this morning here in Santa Cruz, Bolivia. I asked a lady how much a tiny table costs. She gave me a huge price - Bs. 450. When I asked her "are you sure"? She replied, "Well, if you don't like the price I'm not going to sell to an imperialista".
I asked her "do you know what the word "imperialista" means?
She had no idea. She couldn't answer. She stuttered and then just shut her mouth and gave me a mad look.
There were 6 other vendors selling the same table (same size). They all gave me the same price: Bs. 120 (nearly 4 times less her price). I bought three. She lost a good sale - more than she would normally make in a month. But that's beside the point.
Here's the point:
99% of the population here either doesn't know what the word imperialism means or has 15,985 different definitions. They use it because Evo uses it. They don't ask what it means. They don't know what they are fighting for or against at all. They just follow blindly.(Same with the word oligarch. They have no idea what the word means - but they use it all the time.)
Imperialism is a word made fashionable by dictator wanna-be's.
Fidel Castro coined it and made it fashionable among dictators and dictator wanna-be's.
Y con eso te dije todo.
(If you are not too busy making fools out of poor old people that probably never got the chance to have an education):
Everyone knows that imperialism is (in simply language) taking over someone else's country with your army. God knows we Irish know more about it than very few else.

I refuse to believe that the United States has invaded one of the most oil - rich countries on Earth killing thousands of people simply on a "humanitarian mission".
They got rid of Sadaam, Al - Qaeda are on the run, there is democracy so why agreements for a continued troop presence when EVERY poll shows the Iraq people want them out?

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