Correa to Boot US from Manta Base

Quito, Mar 9 Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa ratified that US troops will withdraw from the Manta base in 2009, said Helga Serrano, spokeswoman of the "No Bases" Coalition of this country. Full Story
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jirehs1

Apopka, FL

#1 Mar 15, 2007
anyone want to bet who goes first? correa o los gringos? es verdad.
rezzurected

Lexington Park, MD

#2 Mar 15, 2007
All I can say is look what happened to Puerto Rico when the base got closed. The economy there is really bad.
lex

Columbia, MO

#3 Mar 16, 2007
The economy is manta is already bad. The US hasn't been doing anything to improve it and why should they. Its time Ecuador takes care of it-self since it's the only one that cares enough to do so. Correa is doing a great job. Remember capitalism DOESN'T work everywhere!
Michelle

United States

#4 Mar 17, 2007
Lex, You have no idea what your talking about. Correa is horrible. Even my lefty family members in Ecuador are worried. Ecuador is in Chaos. The Manta Base had improved the local economy considerably. The are only a couple hundred service members, but the base provides hundreds of jobs to the locals and over $50 million dollars in US funds a year.

However, drug money is far more lucrative for the greedy politicos and it goes directly to their pockets. Manta base denies them money. I say good riddance and carefully screen all products who's port of origin is anywhere in Ecuador.
luis moreno

Kansas City, MO

#5 Mar 17, 2007
you stupid people with your complex of infiriority got a montuvio for president wih ideas to transform the country in a communist idiotcrasi removing the american base from manta is going to isolate the country more than in the last 30 years because your unfrendiness and lock of common sense. what do you expect because you renting a piece of land you miight have to harvest dollars from trees? Teniendoun montuvio por presidente y la chusma de indios ignorantes causando desmane en las calles solo les hace aparecer ante el mundo como salvajes de la selva de ignorancia y de el desrespeto humano me alegro no vivir mas alla Uds me averguenzan ser compatriotas. Como siempre la ignorancia es atrevida y lo unico que va a pasar que el pais degenere como Cubay vivan comiendo mierda y lloriqueando por comida ,travajo pero insultando a travez de los comunistas criollos de la feue les hace aparecer mas salvajes y cavernicolas donde no hay el conocimiento de Dios y el atentado a la vida y a susautoridades.
lex wrote:
The economy is manta is already bad. The US hasn't been doing anything to improve it and why should they. Its time Ecuador takes care of it-self since it's the only one that cares enough to do so. Correa is doing a great job. Remember capitalism DOESN'T work everywhere!
franco

United States

#6 Mar 18, 2007
Que interesante:Por primera vez entro en un foro de discucion politica en la red.Realmente es ana marabilla .Respecto a Correa solo puedo decir que les va a cambiar la vida a todos los Ecuatorianos.Correa es un Hombre de izquierda radical y,como tal,no tendra reparos en destruir lo poco que a lo largo de estos siglos y con mucho dolor y esfuerzo los Ecuatorianos an logrado construir.El ecuador ,geograficamente es un pais pequeno,hermoso a pesar nuestro,pero riquisimo en todo los recursos naturales.El Ecuador, realmente esta enterito por hacer.Con trabajo,esfuerzo y mucha dedicacion cualquiera puede en cualquier sociedad libre progresar.El capitalismo es la fuente no solo de riquesas si no de livertad.Correa es su enemigo jurado y por tanto y demas debe de ser detenido.Correa es otro de los iluminados de las izquierdas radicales de antano.Estos senores sufren cuando los hombres y mujeres libres producen y se esfuerzan por crear riquesa, para ellos ,todo aquel que posea medios peopios de produccion es su enemigo jurado.Los demagogos como los Correas y compania deben de ser detenidos y expuestos como lo que son:enemigos de la libertad del orden de los ciudadanos libres.
Vangelist

San Francisco, CA

#7 Mar 19, 2007
Instead of a MILITARY base... The site will be converted to a COMMERCIAL hub to transport goods from the 'far east' all the way to Brazil.

The DRUG WAR is just like the TERROR WAR... an excuse to keep the ARMS dealers PROFITING from BLOOD !
jirehs1

Naples, FL

#8 Mar 21, 2007
lex wrote:
The economy is manta is already bad. The US hasn't been doing anything to improve it and why should they. Its time Ecuador takes care of it-self since it's the only one that cares enough to do so. Correa is doing a great job. Remember capitalism DOESN'T work everywhere!
Hello Lex, if you think the economy is 'bad' in Manta you need to go to Puerto Lopez and other small places throughout Ecuador. Manta, by comparison, is thriving especially with its port for tuna export, some cruise ships, and its beaches. The economy of Ecuador will lo mismo de Colombia if Correa "succeeds". I loved Ecuador when I was there and wish I'd never left. Es verdad. Cheers from Jirehs1
jirehs1

Naples, FL

#9 Mar 21, 2007
Hello Lex, if you think the economy is 'bad' in Manta you need to go to Puerto Lopez and other small places throughout Ecuador. Manta, by comparison, is thriving especially with its port for tuna export, some cruise ships, and its beaches. The economy of Ecuador will lo mismo de Colombia if Correa "succeeds". I loved Ecuador when I was there and wish I'd never left. Es verdad. Cheers from Jirehs1
Clothilde

Bay City, WI

#10 Apr 1, 2007
Bad Economy for whom. Not for the rich.Globally the rich seem to be doing just fine.
Tatiana Fink

Moriches, NY

#11 Apr 12, 2007
Correa habla tan mal de america pero el uso
america para educarse otra cosa me parese que no esta capasitado para la presidencia
Don Gist

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#12 Apr 14, 2007
This message is more or less a repeat of an earlier post, as, most extraordinarily, the original was deleted. My my, there must be some resentidos out there.

The mayor of Manta has written a letter to president Correa asking him to reconsider closing the base. Why? Because of the economic advantage it has brought to the city of Manta. The base has directly provided jobs for locals, and indirectly boosted the economy of Manta, as the city now has booming markets, better housing, and improved services as a result of the base.

Lex in Columbus, I have no idea where you got the information for your statement, but you are dead wrong. Manta was one of the most entrenched anti-Correa regions because of his declaration of eliminating the base; The people there are happy it's come.

As to the accusations of drug trafficking by the U.S. through Manta, consider the source, this article came from Prensa Latina, Havana Cuba. It is pure invention and slander. The same applies to the allegations of dumping toxic waste. This is absolutely absurd, and it's a shame some of you chose to believe such prattle.
BYRON

Syracuse, NY

#13 Apr 15, 2007
No trates , make South America a Power Nation, realizing SIMON BOLIVAR 'S DREAM we have to create a different money like the EURO in Europe bit the other sukers do you think is good idea, ooooh yeaea it's great idea let's do it . you are talking about drugs , yo Amer..... stupid people love use drugs , I dont' get it, there is not comun sense smoke marihuana ,coca, or where ever, no body force to use drugs, it yuor own problem and you think you are the smartest people of the world yeea wrigh , let MR. president Correa do the right think and the right thing is kick out the suckers from Manta
Carolina Cherry

United States

#14 Apr 17, 2007
Hutchinson Whampoa the giant Chinese port operator plans to convert Manta into their largest container port on the S.American Pacific coast. That's a done deal!
Michelle

United States

#15 Apr 18, 2007
Carolina Cherry wrote:
Hutchinson Whampoa the giant Chinese port operator plans to convert Manta into their largest container port on the S.American Pacific coast. That's a done deal!
Hopefully they will provide much needed jobs. The minute the drugs start coming to the US, US should stop imports from that port.
Vangelist

Oakland, CA

#16 Apr 20, 2007
Michelle wrote:
<quoted text> Hopefully they will provide much needed jobs. The minute the drugs start coming to the US, US should stop imports from that port.
The Manta port will mainly be for South American distribution.

The greatest drug threats to the US are home grown METH LAB...(Some have moved to Mexico).

As long as there is a 'black market' for drugs and DRUG WARS... there will be a steady stream of currency and funds to the "ANTI-DRUG" forces... A self perpetuating CRISIS.
Dr Jaime Argudo

O Fallon, MO

#17 Apr 22, 2007
Ecuador has not divided loyalties about fighting drug smugglers. I
expect drug control in Ecuador
to continue to be effective, no Ecuadorian wants Ecuador to be
Colombianized and Ecuador is not
going to be more prone to drug violence and crime if the agreement
on the Manta Base is not renew.
On the opposite, the presence of US troops in Ecuador is a hot
political issue that has to be
eliminated to create a better political atmosphere between Ecuador
and USA.

You should know that the Manta Base agreement was wrong from the
beginning; it was signed by
Ecuadorian President Mahuad, who after his involvement in a bank
corruption case that collapsed
Ecuadorian economy was deposed as President and now is a scholar at
Harvard University. Out of the
4 billion dollars expended from US tax payers; only 70 million were
invested in strengthen the
Manta Base runway. The US does not pay any lease for using the Base
for 10 years and only
contributes with 13 million per year to Ecuador for controlling drug
traffic. The money Ecuador
has to spend to keep 8,000 soldiers controlling our north border and
hundreds of policemen going
after drug smuggles is way more than that. Ecuadorians also think
that the drug war is essentially
a problem between cocaine production in Colombia and consumption in
USA and Ecuador rather than a
source of this problem is a victim of it. It makes more sense to
launch planes from Colombia and
not from Ecuador, isn’t it?

The failure of the Plan Colombia has further contributed to create a
bad atmosphere in the region.
The USA, instead of investing more tax payers’ money in providing
medical assistance and
rehabilitation to drug addicts within its borders, had decided to
provide 700 millions per year to
Colombia to fumigate coca plantations with glyphosate. Colombia,
instead of investing money to
promote legal crops in his territory had decided to fumigate along
the Ecuadorian border, which
has caused an increase in the number of Colombian refugees, public
health problems, destruction of
ecosystem and legal crops in Ecuador. Now ask you sell glyphosate to
the Colombian government and
will find one of the real beneficiaries of Plan Colombia.

So, even the lessen educated people in Ecuador understand that the
real reasons that drive the
interest of the US in renewing the Manta Base Agreement is not to
help Ecuador to avoid being
“Colombianized” but to get Ecuador more involved on a problem
that do not belong to us, to save
money in fuel and have a nice and safe place like Manta for US
troops to go for a beer.

Jaime F. Argudo, Ph.D., P.E.
Dr Jaime Argudo

Miami, FL

#18 Apr 22, 2007
America? Were do you think you were borned?
America is from Canada to Argentina
As per Correa and his Ph.D. from Illinois in US, does that means he has to follows Bush and that 30% of conservative republican that are now in power?
Correa believes in raising taxes to the wealthy and increasing social sevices to the poor, a strong state economy with controls over monopolies and economy. Does that sound familiar to you? Correa if doing politics in USA will fit into the profile of a liberal democrat or a socialist democrat to put it into European or LatinAmerican terms, he is not a comunist. I also have a Ph.D. from U-Texas at Austin, does that mean I have to agree with Bush's misleaded foreign policy that is causing isolation and reaction against USA around the world? Of course not, I regret to see Ecuadorian people in this forum talking more like cuban-american than like trully ecuadorians, seeing comunists and gosts everywhere and pretending that there is nothing in between Bush and Fidel. They certainly are affected by Bush's god and evil foreign policy.
Tatiana Fink wrote:
Correa habla tan mal de america pero el uso
america para educarse otra cosa me parese que no esta capasitado para la presidencia
Bibi

United States

#19 Apr 27, 2007
Given that the Farc wrote a thank you letter to correa for his help, I don't see how you think Ecuador is fighting drugs. What planet do you live on? Your lucky Bush isn't like Correa and could simply jail you for for being a threat to this country.

http://www.elcomercio.com/solo_texto_search.a...
Dr Jaime Argudo

United States

#20 Apr 27, 2007
I see that you don’t have any other argument that Bush’s 3 major foreign policies that had brought pain to the world and isolation to the US.
Such 3 major policies are:

1. God and evil.
Bush thinks god talks to him and everybody who opposes his foreign policy is evil (terrorist, communist, drug supporter, etc.). You see nothing in between. I am a democrat, catholic, who believes on social justice, freedom, environmental protection and private enterprise.

2. Our problems are your problems, but your problems aren’t mine.
US has a problem with drug consumption therefore Ecuador has to fight a war that is not ours, why Bush does not control drug consumption in the US instead of supporting Colombia on messing Ecuador with glyphosate? On the other hand, Ecuador has an issue with poverty and corruption and Bush is not supporting Correa on his fight against corruption and unfair distribution of wealth in Ecuador, only cares about protecting Oxy and other corrupted companies that have been taken 3 out of 4 dollars out of Ecuadorian oil revenues.

3. I screw you first before you ever have a chance, if I even suspect you are a threat to me.
What US is doing in Irak? That is a business driven invasion, justified by the illusion that Sadam will have a chance to strike US with WMD. Now thanks to Bush, FOX News and the like, 30% conservative republican and Bush’s alienated Ecuadorians see enemies everywhere. Now Correa is an enemy and you consider me a threat.
The real danger for the US is inside the US. People like you and conservative republicans are destroying US most valuable principles and raising an anti-US sentiment around the world. Key values of this society are at stake, such as respect for human rights, freedom of speech and cultural tolerance. You do not respect foreign cultures and immigrants; you want everybody to think just like you.

As for Correa’s authoritarian style, that’s something about the people of Ecuador is aware and 80% of Ecuadorian prefer his style over the weak presidential style from former right wing governments who didn’t had the guts to put people into order, including corrupted politicians, World Bank bureaucracy, OXY, businessmen who avoid paying taxes, etc. What you will not see under Correa is people send to dead and not even to jail without legal trial, he will prevail in the National Assembly and will govern for many years, as long as the democratic expression of the people of Ecuador let him. He is far from being a dictator like Castro or Pinochet, to mention some you may like. Yes, Conservative Republicans also supported criminal dictators like Pinochet, Somoza, Noriega, etc.(your dictators are good, those who oppose you are evil).
Bibi wrote:
Given that the Farc wrote a thank you letter to correa for his help, I don't see how you think Ecuador is fighting drugs. What planet do you live on? Your lucky Bush isn't like Correa and could simply jail you for for being a threat to this country.
http://www.elcomercio.com/solo_texto_search.a...

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