Ecuador calls departure of U.S. troop...

Ecuador calls departure of U.S. troops historic

There are 197 comments on the Newswatch 50 story from Sep 18, 2009, titled Ecuador calls departure of U.S. troops historic. In it, Newswatch 50 reports that:

QUITO, Ecuador a " The last 15 U.S. troops left Ecuador's Pacific Manta air base on Friday, officially closing the U.S. military post in what Ecuador's government calls a recovery of sovereignty.The small U.S. mission flew anti-narcotics flights meant to help catch cocaine smugglers close to the point of production.But Ecuador's leftist President ...

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bowleevar

Fort Myers, FL

#169 Jan 16, 2010
As an American in love with Ecuador I must protest this thread in earnest.

Mr. Moderator, please remove the previous last four comments.

May I say that this forum aside from the last four comments is interesting and informative.
Su Gente

Freeport, FL

#170 Jan 16, 2010
I think we should all get together with some margaritas and some good German beer! Hey, check out this link I just read about the beach en Manta.

http://www.kxnet.com/getArticle.asp... Too funny!

Since: Jan 10

Guayaquil, Ecuador

#171 Jan 18, 2010
Randy wrote:
You're both full of crap. America needs to keep its sticky fingers out of other countries business. It isn't our responsibility to police other people. This is why the world hates us.
No sorry you are wrong! America has an INSATIABLE DRUG HABIT! It is NOT Colombia's or Ecuador's that the US needs to have a military base in another country. And besides that how is 100 miiltary people going to affect a country?

We need to get OUR OWN HOUSE in ORDER!
CaptCanuck

Cambridge, Canada

#172 Jan 18, 2010
latino_gringo wrote:
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No sorry you are wrong! America has an INSATIABLE DRUG HABIT! It is NOT Colombia's or Ecuador's that the US needs to have a military base in another country. And besides that how is 100 miiltary people going to affect a country?
We need to get OUR OWN HOUSE in ORDER!
Drug abuse is a worldwide situation really gringos are not the only ones using drugs.
Combating it is not a bad idea it's a left wing political story in several Latin American countries.
bowleevar

Harmony, NC

#173 Jan 18, 2010
CaptCanuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Drug abuse is a worldwide situation really gringos are not the only ones using drugs.
Combating it is not a bad idea it's a left wing political story in several Latin American countries.
Mr.Canuck is entirely correct in his assessment and I applaud his taking a righteous stand for the neighbors to his South.

While chilly winds may blow over the Great White North it is the great white powder that bedevils humanity. We can curse the impoverished farmer growing his meager cash crop in the high and low lands twixt the Equator but we must cease to crave the insidious elixir.

Oh, Canada, we wave our flag at thee...
CaptCanuck

Cambridge, Canada

#174 Jan 18, 2010
bowleevar wrote:
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Mr.Canuck is entirely correct in his assessment and I applaud his taking a righteous stand for the neighbors to his South.
While chilly winds may blow over the Great White North it is the great white powder that bedevils humanity. We can curse the impoverished farmer growing his meager cash crop in the high and low lands twixt the Equator but we must cease to crave the insidious elixir.
Oh, Canada, we wave our flag at thee...
Righteous? humm i would say just realistic Mr Bowleevar.
Cocaine is obviously highly addictive and used in many countries not just one.
Rafael Correa is buddies with radical Hugo Chavez there are economic incentives jointly building a refinery together in Ecuador.
It's mostly a political decision and it scores points with the public also.
Rachel

Washington, DC

#175 Jan 19, 2010
I agree that cocaine is highly addictive and unfortunately is used in many countries not only in USA.
For the same reason I believe it is important to control the narco traffic from South America. The American militaries in Colombia are suppose to be there to help. I also believe that 100 militaries in Colombia are not enough. USA needs to send more people down there. This is a very serious and danger business.
I heard comments from different Ecuadoreans in regard to the involvement of Chavez and Correa in the lucrative business of drugs. But I have never heard that a refinery has been built in Ecuador.
If that is the case there is more reason for USA to be involved in preventing the traffic of the great white power all over the great white north.
I said from the beginning that it was a big mistake to kick the American militaries out of Manta.
Su Gente

Freeport, FL

#176 Jan 19, 2010
Dear Gang, while the drug thing is the long-running story as to why the Gringos are down there I think it'll be even more important for the Gringos and their good Colombian allies to keep an eye on the growing spread of islamic-terror. Mark my words. Ps, I thought I'd heard the refineria en El Aromo was not going to happen. Has there been a change on this? Our Canadian friend thinks this will be good for the people but there are many in the Amazon who would vehemently disagree. Incredible pollution, stolen land, very sick people and no economic up side. I lived in Ecuador and I know the potential for disaster is very, very real unless they do it correctly. Any bets on that one? Ps, so long as someone anywhere in the world wants some good cocaine there will be some poor farmer able to feed his family by growing cocoa leaves.
CaptCanuck

Cambridge, Canada

#177 Jan 19, 2010
Never said the refinery was necessarily a good idea they are dirty true.I said that the two leftists Correa and Chavez both desire it.
Ecuador wants to reduce costs for imported fuels by use of the refinery.
As for the update South Korean SK-E&C will build it.
The refinery will be built between Manta and Montecristi, in the coast province of Manabí for 12.5 billion USD total costs.
The FARC narco terrorists seem to be losing in Colombia which is a least good news.
Even better would be Chavez losing the next election.
bowleevar

Watervliet, NY

#178 Jan 19, 2010
I am confused as to this 'refinery' topic- is it a refinery of natural resources or a refinery of the dark side?

Mr. Chavez is certainly the most pernicious presence to the South and should be quite rightly suspected of nefarious aims, as if that has not long been obvious, but in my humble opinion I seriously Mr. Correa would stoop as low as is being discussed here.

I believe his intentions are good, however his means need to be adjusted to reflect the reality of our modern world.

Methinks socialism is a dinosaur. Et tu?
CaptCanuck

Cambridge, Canada

#179 Jan 19, 2010
Two different figures are given for the costs.http://english.elunivers al.com/2010/01/06/en_eco_esp_s outh-korean-firm-to_06A3259491 .shtml
Rachel

Washington, DC

#180 Jan 19, 2010
Su gente mi amigo

I read the link about Manta! WOW where is all those jewelry coming from? Did some caribean pirates left a treasure close by Ecuador? LOL, I cannot believe all those jewelry are all of the free and lose at Murcielago beach. At least some poor people would have something valuable. That is good.
CaptCanuck

Cambridge, Canada

#181 Jan 19, 2010
bowleevar wrote:
I am confused as to this 'refinery' topic- is it a refinery of natural resources or a refinery of the dark side?
Mr. Chavez is certainly the most pernicious presence to the South and should be quite rightly suspected of nefarious aims, as if that has not long been obvious, but in my humble opinion I seriously Mr. Correa would stoop as low as is being discussed here.
I believe his intentions are good, however his means need to be adjusted to reflect the reality of our modern world.
Methinks socialism is a dinosaur. Et tu?
The refinery to be built 20 miles south of Manta will be used to process 300,000 barrels of heavy crude cost 6.7 billion.
A petro-chemical complex will be incorporated to produce urea,fertilizer and solvents bringing total costs up to 12.5 billion USD.
PetroEcuador will hold 51% PDVSA Petroleos de Venezuela will hold 49% ownership.
Project will create 20,000 jobs apparently of course i would not want to live near it.
Politics,money,power what government is not involved in it?
Rachel

Washington, DC

#182 Jan 19, 2010
This is what I found in the Ecuadorean news about building a refinery

QUITO, Ecuador — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez offered Thursday to help Ecuador build a $5 billion oil refinery, as the socialist leader pledged to spread his government's oil wealth to another South American ally
bowleevar

Greensburg, PA

#183 Jan 20, 2010
Thank you both for your kind responses.

I feel it is not so much the various negative connotations associated with a project of this magnitude, although as Mr. Canuck says, NIMBY, however energy needs are a fact of life.

What is more disconcerting is Ew-Go sticking his dirty little tentacles into the pie of others. He does remind me of the proverbial stranger with the candy, if you know what I mean.

Buen dia!
Su Gente

Freeport, FL

#184 Jan 20, 2010
Amigos, Capt Canuck is right about not wanting to live near any such refinery. IF (and that's a very big IF) such a refinery could be built without endangering the workers, the locals who live near it, the land itself and the waterways for shipping then it would be a good thing. But oil development in Ecuador (and other third world countries) has a very poor track record. Check out Chevron's latest efforts down there (oh and don't forget to add on the usual and expected gov't corruption, payola, etc etc). PREGUNTA POR TODOS: Ecuador, like most of South America, sits on what geologists call the Ring of Fire. One of the easiest and most enviro-friendly ways to tap the world's energy is through geo-thermal systems. And the last time I checked, there's a lot of good wind coming off the Pacifica and wind turbine engine farms would be a really great idea. Lots of safe jobs for lots of good people making tons of money for everyone including Presidente Raffy and his amigo Tio Ew-Go who could do the same in Venezuela!
Su Gente

Freeport, FL

#185 Jan 20, 2010
Hola Amica! I thought perhaps you were cruising along the South American coast and got tired of some of your jewelry so you tossed it overboard so you could buy more on board your cruise ship!!!:) Su Silly Gringo
Rachel wrote:
This is what I found in the Ecuadorean news about building a refinery
QUITO, Ecuador — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez offered Thursday to help Ecuador build a $5 billion oil refinery, as the socialist leader pledged to spread his government's oil wealth to another South American ally
Su Gente

Freeport, FL

#186 Jan 20, 2010
Amica, lo siento pero soy muy stupido! Mis palabras de la refineria? Soy muy stupido, those words were about the jewelry and I should have placed them here!!! I have been on this computer all day doing real estate translations for my girlfriend in Ecuador. My butt is killing me from this seat, my eyes are blurring, I need lunch and a beer and I probably need more than that too but I'll settle for a round of golf! Hasta la vista my friend, Terry
Rachel wrote:
Su gente mi amigo
I read the link about Manta! WOW where is all those jewelry coming from? Did some caribean pirates left a treasure close by Ecuador? LOL, I cannot believe all those jewelry are all of the free and lose at Murcielago beach. At least some poor people would have something valuable. That is good.
Rachel

Washington, DC

#187 Jan 20, 2010
Su gente mi amigo

Don't worry about it mi amigo. You are not stupid by any meanings. I think you need to have a good lunch and a beer and you will be just fine.
There are so many comments in this blog and it is hard to keep up with all of them, but I am happy to see people interested in the well being of the beautiful country of Ecuador.
juan

Toronto, Canada

#188 Feb 17, 2010
damn intresting commenst but lets make a better decision when the people have the option to choose how things are madein to progress will see what happens in ecuador!! and in latin america hoepfully certain people dont put their noses where they dont belong intresting book i rad last time it was quite shocking but il lwet u guys decide "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man " intresting how things are made in a democratic nation.. also watch the video is very intresting

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