roxycodone vs oxycontin

[ROXSTAR]

People are giving some wrong info here .....roxi is not just a generic ....roxicodone is an immediate release ..compared to oxycontin which is extended release ....as far as strength goes it depends ...of you have breakthrough pain your gonna want the roxy but if your wantin something to get you through the whole day then your gonna want oxycontin ...there is no brand name or generic ....they dont make one ...they do but its not under a diff name ..just a diff type of pill ....hope i could help ....thanks

[M3rk]

Roxi's hit me way harder than oxy's i need at least a oxy 80mg to make me feel good opose to 2 roxi 30's (60mg) I would choose roxi's n e day over oxycontin.

[OxyMorphone]

Yea roxy are stronger and kick in faster but i like oxy cuz they last so damn long ...methadone is my all time fav ...drop 3 dones and your good to go for the whole day

[Strandedinfl]

ROXSTAR wrote:

People are giving some wrong info here .....roxi is not just a generic ....roxicodone is an immediate release ..compared to oxycontin which is extended release ....as far as strength goes it depends ...of you have breakthrough pain your gonna want the roxy but if your wantin something to get you through the whole day then your gonna want oxycontin ...there is no brand name or generic ....they dont make one ...they do but its not under a diff name ..just a diff type of pill ....hope i could help ....thanks

Roxicodone = Name brand from Roxanne Labs
Oxycodone = Generic Form of Roxicodone manufactured from serveral labs.

Oxycontin - Perdue labs name brand only one available now because Perdue sued the other drug labs for infringment and taking from their pot of money so they won't be able to offer genenric untin 2013 and then i am sure perdue will be prepared to make sure they will stop them again so they will have the monopoly on them.

There that is clarified. and Oxycontin when it did have a generic it was the same name.

[OxyMorphone]

uhh they still make the generic my gma gets em

like i said man

Oxycodone = immediate release
Oxycontin = Extended release

[Courtneey]

Actually they are not making generic OC right now, but a lot of pharmacies stock piled the generic before they quit making them. My sister get the generics but her pharmacy told her when that stock was gone she would have to use the brand name and pay the higher co=pay. I am glad because I prefer the brand name and my insurance requires generic if they are available.

OxyMorphone wrote:

uhh they still make the generic my gma gets em
like i said man
Oxycodone = immediate release
Oxycontin = Extended release

[Strandedinfl]

Yep when you're a user you know these things. I have no insurance and paid cash for my Oxycontin so when the Generics get far and few between when the pharmacies can get some from their supplier it was welcomed. But Courtneey hit it right on. They stockpiled a ton of the generic before the i believe July 13, 2009 Termination date for Alternate lab production of oxycontin agreement went into effect.

Be as sure as the sun rises tommorow that generic supply your gma gets is going to run dry and he'll pay the premium that perdue wants for em.

Oh i never argued about the Oxycodone being instant and Oxycontin being ER. I'm only pointing out that Oxycodone IS the generic form of Roxicodone same drug just Brand/Generic.

[OxyMorphone]

you the jelly bean oxys ?? lol cuz there making generic oxycodone lol the 30mg roxys ??? she gets 150 a month sooo yea

[RayNokc]

once you get into wrote:

Once you get into ocy or roxy your considered a drug addict. And they will give you them meds because basicaly there is no hope for you. I am also one of the hopless sad to say. I was once healthy and energetic. Now I am addicted to roxycodone. I am taking 4x15's perday. I personaly dont get that high that everyone seems to want. I only get mild pain relife from them. But I am still considered a drug addict as are all of you. Most of you try for that high and try to get your dose uped so you can get high again ..this is sad since you do not need the high for pain relife so think before you pop them extra tabs, and never drink on them.

You aren't an addict if you take narcotics for real pain, yes you will have withdrawals if you stop taking any opiates after a long length of time. This is because your body has become accustomed to the medication and you are physically dependent not an addict. Most pain studies show that if you're taking opiates (oxy, morphine, etc.) for severe pain you will not get the "high" that a lot of drug seekers and actual addicts get. They say this is because the drug is working against your pain, where people without pain get a "high" because they aren't in pain. This is the reason people who take medications for real pain aren't addicts. They do have a physical dependency and can have physical with drawls but not the physiological withdrawals of an addict. You shouldn't label people with chronic pain as all addicts, after all it's bad enough to suffer from the pain, but there's no reason we should suffer the social stigma of being an called addicts.

[RayNokc]

You aren't an addict if you take narcotics for real pain, yes you will have withdrawals if you stop taking any opiates after a long length of time. This is because your body has become accustomed to the medication and you are physically dependent not an addict. Most pain studies show that if you're taking opiates (oxy, morphine, etc.) for severe pain you will not get the "high" that a lot of drug seekers and actual addicts get. They say this is because the drug is working against your pain, where people without pain get a "high" because they aren't in pain. This is the reason people who take medications for real pain aren't addicts. They do have a physical dependency and can have physical with drawls but not the physiological withdrawals of an addict. You shouldn't label people with chronic pain as all addicts, after all it's bad enough to suffer from the pain, but there's no reason we should suffer the social stigma of being called an addict.

[Wizzin]

Oregon- WangeR wrote:

i think the roxy 30's are the best but thats just me

I have been taking 30mg Roxycodone-Oxycodone 3 times a day for break through pain and also 100mg MS Cotin Morphine 2 times a day for about 3-4 years now because of Diabetic Neuropathy and I think the best Oxycodone is Amide that has A/215 on it and also have tried the Melakrodt brand that has a M on one side and 30 on the other and I think both of those are the best of all the generic brands and the Ethex brand does not do anything for me except upset my stomache. So recently the MS Cotin has not been doing much for me after taking it for so long that my Dr. had put me on 60mg Oxycotin 2 times a day & 15mg Oxycodone 3 times a day and I still seem to be in just as much pain I do get a little relief from the 60mg OC but as for the 15mg Oxycodone does not seem to do anything for break through pain unless I take 2 of them and do not know why they changed it from the 30's to the 15's I think Dr's. go to much by text book instead of listening to the patients as to what works the best because everybody is different and everybody has a different tollerence when it comes to medications. So with me I not only hurt still I have to deal with a little bit of withdrawls cuz of going from the 30's to the 15's and the 30's work better for my break through pain during the day. I do think the Amide has really worked the best for me from all of the other brands, and I really hate it when Doctors try and put me on new medications when I already know what works the best for me. So if that help anyone at all about the different brands.

[eef]

no there not roxy

[dessteele]

anonymous wrote:

<quoted text>I think anyone that has been on pain killers for atleast a few months is an addict you just don't know it yet. I found a Dr. about 7 months ago that was prescribing me 7 80mg oyx's a day plus 7 10 mg oxy's a day i went there for help and he pretty much got me more addicted then i was then he cut me down very quickly and cut me off now for the last month i was forced to quit cold turkey cause i can't afford a $60 80 off the streets it's been about 27 days now and i still feel the physical withdrawls not to mention the emotional and mental anguish i've been going through. It's very hard so i'm trying to caution everyone that when you think your not addicted then suddenly your dr. does not give you the pills anymore then your gonna know your body was addicted and it takes a long time to your body to recover from it and rebuild the natural pain killers that are in your body you may never be the same again i don't feel like i will

I don't usually comment on these things but I read this and just had to say something. Firstly, if you truly required this level of pain meds, it's pretty shocking. Secondly, I have to think you had a bad doc if that level of meds was prescribed to you. And third, I've taken narcotics for RSD pain for almost 5 years. Read the studies, talk to good docs, they will all tell you that those of us who take narcotics for true pain do not become physically addicted. Physical addictions occur when meds are taken to chase a high, not to treat real pain. The studies are out there - read a few. I've put myself in a position of cutting my meds way back when my pain ebbs, and if I were addicted my body would never allow me to do that. If I were addicted, I could never go from taking 180mg of oxy a day to 15 or less a day for a week of more, and not be dope-sick.

Lastly, I've been on pain management long enough to know that a real pain mgmt doc would never, ever, ever cut off a patient without cause. Something untoward must have happened for your doc to cut you off, or you weren't with a good doc, or something. Sounds fishy to me. In any case, if you are in a true pain situation I do hope you find something that works for you, but please don't buy the bs that if you take a narcotic to only treat real pain, you'll become a "drug addict". The studies are too clear.

[dessteele]

RayNokc wrote:

You aren't an addict if you take narcotics for real pain, yes you will have withdrawals if you stop taking any opiates after a long length of time. This is because your body has become accustomed to the medication and you are physically dependent not an addict. Most pain studies show that if you're taking opiates (oxy, morphine, etc.) for severe pain you will not get the "high" that a lot of drug seekers and actual addicts get. They say this is because the drug is working against your pain, where people without pain get a "high" because they aren't in pain. This is the reason people who take medications for real pain aren't addicts. They do have a physical dependency and can have physical with drawls but not the physiological withdrawals of an addict. You shouldn't label people with chronic pain as all addicts, after all it's bad enough to suffer from the pain, but there's no reason we should suffer the social stigma of being called an addict.

Should have read this post first and saved myself some time! Exactly right on. One of the things that ticks me off is how many people drug-seek and make it so hard for those of us who are treating true chronic pain (RSD/CRPS in my case, 5 years of it and counting) to get the meds we need. Drug seekers make our pain mgmt docs extremely careful, and for many docs (thankfully not mine) that means that they will be much less aggressive than they could, and should be, in treating someone who really does have chronic pain. I've heard everything in the 5 years I've sat in pain mgmt docs offices ... "Um, I lost my pill bottle, it got washed in the washer"; "My prescription was in my back pocket and I did yard work and it bled and the pharmacist wouldn't fill it so I threw it away and now I need another one" (really, yard work?)... everything but my dog ate it, for crying out loud. I feel bad for the good docs, because their the ones who are risking their licenses and their livelihood to try to treat people who really need it and drug seekers endanger them and endanger the real patients. REALLY makes me mad. Anyway, thanks for being one of the smart ones who know the real "score".

[dessteele]

lulu wrote:

<quoted text> "roxy and percocet are the same. percocet just has acetomentaphine (sp?) i take both. well i will take percs if i run out of roxys but i prefer not to do that because that requires buying off the streets and that is breaking the law. i am not a law breaker, so i like to believe anyway..lol

I never knew this until just now and I'm still confused. When I first started on this tame the pain odyssey 5 years ago (I have RSD/CRPS), my first (worthless) pain mgmt doc would only prescribe percocet. When I finally got to my current and I hope last pain mgmt doc he said I may as well be taking sugar pills for all the good they would do for RSD pain - it's likened to the pain of end-stage cancer - and he prescribed roxycodone. Now, here's why I'm confused. He cannot call in a script for the roxy because of the class of narcotic, but he can call in percs ... but I just read they are the same class ... also, when I pick up a script for roxy I have to show id but not when I pick up a perc or vicodin script. Confuses the heck outta me.

[EXmethadone]

Narcotics are addicting regardless whether they are taken for the pursuit of pleasure or for the medication of pain. A study was conducted regarding the prolonged use of morphine given to patients for analgesia some 20 or 30 years ago. All of the patients were physically addicted to the morphine but only 1 in 50 continued using narcotics after discontinuation of their treatment. The conclusion of the study was that pain patients, unlike recreational users did not interpret the effects of morphine as a means of attaining pleasure, but only as a means of alleviating pain. Once the pain was absent there was no reason to continue taking morphine. The patients interpreted drug withdrawal as part of the recovery process unlike addicts, who interpret withdrawal as a need to take more drugs.

[dessteele]

Been there unfortunately wrote:

<quoted text>
Dave - that's just plain b.s. or justification on your part. There are several docs out there administering/prescribing pain killers, sleeping and nerve pills to patients they KNOW have become addicts. The reason? Because those docs are nothing better than a licensed dealer. They know that patient will be a repeat customer, trust me they're in it for the $$$. Pain yes it's legitimate, but addiction? It's a nightmare for the family who is forced to watch and deal with that addiction. They lose everything, sometimes the ignorant patient that claims "but the doc prescribed them." Meanwhile, with the patient on a slippery slope to the grave, the lieing sack of poop doc, laughs all the way to the bank! I realize there are some great docs out there. But one who continues to prescribe, and uping the doses of those painkillers, are nothing but money-hungry SOB's. Don't kid yourself like my loved one did. It's painful to bury your loved one, and there's no "pill" that can bring them back!

I don't know about the docs where you are, but I read my insurance statements and believe me, my pain mgmt doc ain't gettin' rich off of prescribing my necessary pain meds every month. Aetna pays him crap.

[OxyMorphone]

I would much rather have oxys man but who i get the roxys from the insurance dont cover them ....trust me oxy over roxy anyday....they last so much longer ...i mean i can snort like 5 roxys in a day and it will just have me stable ...if you do more than 2 at once all it does is make you feel like ass

[Strandedinfl]

Wizzin wrote:

<quoted text>
I have been taking 30mg Roxycodone-Oxycodone 3 times a day for break through pain and also 100mg MS Cotin Morphine 2 times a day for about 3-4 years now because of Diabetic Neuropathy and I think the best Oxycodone is Amide that has A/215 on it and also have tried the Melakrodt brand that has a M on one side and 30 on the other and I think both of those are the best of all the generic brands and the Ethex brand does not do anything for me except upset my stomache. So recently the MS Cotin has not been doing much for me after taking it for so long that my Dr. had put me on 60mg Oxycotin 2 times a day & 15mg Oxycodone 3 times a day and I still seem to be in just as much pain I do get a little relief from the 60mg OC but as for the 15mg Oxycodone does not seem to do anything for break through pain unless I take 2 of them and do not know why they changed it from the 30's to the 15's I think Dr's. go to much by text book instead of listening to the patients as to what works the best because everybody is different and everybody has a different tollerence when it comes to medications. So with me I not only hurt still I have to deal with a little bit of withdrawls cuz of going from the 30's to the 15's and the 30's work better for my break through pain during the day. I do think the Amide has really worked the best for me from all of the other brands, and I really hate it when Doctors try and put me on new medications when I already know what works the best for me. So if that help anyone at all about the different brands.

He took you lower in dose because MS-Contin only has 20% bio-availability. Morphine is weak when it's taken orally. IV it's awesome for pain but when you have pills they aren't nearly as effective.

So what he did was protocol. He took you to a much better drug and brought you down to a respectable level so you wouldn't overdose and die. Now that you've had the change he needs to modify because for obvious reasons some people are different and meds work a different way. So my advice is when you go to see him on your next appt then tell him what you're experiencing and he will adjust to it accordingly i'm sure.

Good luck

[OxyMorphone]

i weigh about 128 and i can do 5 30mg roxy a day ...snorting them ...and thats a pretty damn good bit ...i just love so much waking up feeling like ass and just snorting a 30mg ...feels pretty damn nice ..i could do them forever