Is generic oxy going away???

[Twinsdad]

I heard that there would be no generic oc available after Dec. 31. I have done some checking and it really does sound as if Endo and Teva are going to stop manufacturing/selling the generic form by years end. Has anyone else heard or read anything on this subject?

Generic or not, I need to get off these damn things. The more I take the more I want. They absolutely take over your life. I haven't had any today, but I've taken several Lortabs. This is just the way I am choosing to quit. It seems we all share the same thoughts about rehab. I just don't want to do it. To be very honest, I don't want get rid of my scripts, I just really need to have better control. The only way that can happen for me is to first spend several days/weeks not using. Then maybe, I can handle a 20mg each day. I really need this med, but I have to take back control of my life. This drug has cost me so much. It's a catch 22 for me. OC gives me better relief for the irreversible nerve damage in my back than anything I've tried. I've tried a many over the past few years. I have pain in my back and legs that is nearly unbearable. Hypersensitivity is a word many of you will have a better understaning of than others. Sometimes I have to wear socks to bed because I can't stand for the sheets to touch my foot. OC really helps that. I can't imagine a world that doesn't have some kind of narcotic pain reliever for me. As I said, I'm taking Lortab during the day, Valium throughout the night and plan to reduce these daily as much as I can. I'm enduring much pain, but these 2 meds have been a lifesaver for w/drawals. I hope to report back in a few days to say how long I've been oxy free. For now it's only been a little over 48 hrs. I guess you have to start somewhere.

This site really helps motivate. You folks with success stories need to keep writing along with those of us who are still fighting this awful addiction. Thanks to all who do!!!

[Jay-Key]

Yes all generic forms of Oxycontin must stop manufactuering very soon, Endo by this year and Teva by early 2007. The only generic allowed is going to be Watson Pharms because Purdue (The original maker of Oxycontin has offically made them the only supplier of generic Oxycodone ER) The Watson Oxycodone ER has the imprint ABG.

[Twinsdad]

Thanks Jay. I figured you would know. I've been all over this site in the last few days and you seem to have educated yourself very well in all that has to do with this drug. I appreciate your reply. Thanks!

[Cheryl]

Has anyone heard of the generic endo oxycontin having a tendency to making people sick? I was taking purdue oxycontin without a problem but was given a new script today that was from endo & it has made me become very sick to my stomach & throw up each time I have taken it.
Cheryl

[Buddy]

I got some white 10mg ABG's from afriend who says the are oxycodone (which I thought were generic percocet) but I know these to be generic oxy's. The bottle even says oxycodone. I was just wondering if anyone knows what exactly is oxycodone.I think the put the ABG's (oxy's) in the oxycodone bottle and are tryin to pull a fast one one me and pass them off as generic percs. Let me know

[Jay-Key]

A precription bottle of ABG's read like this ...
Oxycodone ER (Extended Release) 10mg Tablets Generic for Oxycontin 10mg Tablets. So these are just like percocet except without the APAP (Tylenol). Oxycodone and Percocet both contain the same active ingredient (Oxycodone) the only difference is the APAP (Tylenol) that is in the Percocet. So a pecocet tablet of 10/325mg is equal in strength to a 10mg Oxycontin tablet, also Percocet is an Immediate Release form of Oxycodone and Oxycontin is an Extended Release form of Oxycodone.

[Kent]

Jay-Key wrote:

Yes all generic forms of Oxycontin must stop manufactuering very soon, Endo by this year and Teva by early 2007. The only generic allowed is going to be Watson Pharms because Purdue (The original maker of Oxycontin has offically made them the only supplier of generic Oxycodone ER) The Watson Oxycodone ER has the imprint ABG.

I wrote the manufacture teva to ask if the generic oxycodone er was going to be discontinued because I use oxycodone ER and don't know what I would do without the pain relief I get from oxycodone ER. I have tried several different pain medication, nothing comes close to the pain relief using this medication.

I wanted to inform you that at this time, Oxycodone HCl ER is being manufactured, and I am not aware of any future plans.

Thank you for showing trust and interest in the products manufactured by TEVA Pharmaceuticals USA.

[Ron]

Twinsdad wrote:

I heard that there would be no generic oc available after Dec. 31.

Watson will still be making generic oxy's. Only Endo has to stop. They lost a court case and instead of any restitution to Purdue, they will just stop making oxy's. I just picked up my script and i got Watsons

[Jeff]

Watson generics will no longer be available starting next month, the price on them already went up 50% two months ago and they will be gone completely in a month meaning only brand name will be available, at twice the cost of the watson generic purdue currently offers. Its really bullshit if you ask me and has been nothing but bad for the consumer. I agree the Endo and Teva forms had to go, they were bullshit. They were less effective, so much to the point that my pain management specialist refused to allow the scripts to be filled as generics until the watson brand came out (when your script says Despense as Written on it, the pharmacy cannot fill it as generic, no matter what you want) because pretty much every patient that tried out the generics (particularly TEVA) reported that they were getting less than 50% of the effectiveness they were on the brand name. We are not just talking about subjective mental preference and effect here, we are talking about just BAD bioequivalency to the brand name, like I said 50% as good. But the Watson brand shouldnt be going, its the same as the brand name, identical, made in the same factory, the same batches, just goes through a different pill press to get he differetn letters on the other side. Its really hurting those of us who dont have insurance.

My prescription was a thousand a month back up until December and then the watsons went up 50%, so now my script is 1500$ a month. When the watson brand goes away next month, my script will be close to three grand they tell me. Something like that shouldnt happen. Its the same med, its not costing them more money to make, they are just tripling the cost to the end user after they have gotten there tolerance up as to where they require alot and thus there script will be thousands. Even those that due have insurance, you better believe alot of people are going to get there oxycontin prescription not covered anymore, insurance providers arnt going to pay the price, they are going to tell you to have your doctor prescribe you something else.

[Jackie]

Does anyone know if the drug Opana is equivalent at all to Oxycontin ER? I suffer end stage liver failure with severe bone deficiency disease and am very worried about not getting adequate pain relief.

[racegirl2448]

Perdue is making people live again so to speak and then yanking the rug out.... they are going to make innocent people who can not afford the name brand suffer WD's for no reason other than $$$$.
In-excusable.
Thank God my insurance will pay for name brand but I gotta pay $50 mth not $10....
I feel bad for people or even myself if I loose my insurance even if I only loose it for 1 mth I can not afford $3,000

[horsnrdhurts]

Mine are generic with a bluis/green color with 33

on one side and 33 on theother. 80 mg

[painman]

tenn-hillbilly wrote:

<quoted text>RE:Pharmasist told me that the name brand is all that would be available.However i find that hard to believeas there is so much imphasis on generic drugs these days.Purdue just won a lawsuit over it and that is why everyone thinks name brand is all there will be,I think Purdue will still make a generic brand such as watsons which is what i always get Generic brands are about 10 to 15% weaker than name brands.These time release ocs are the best pain meds i have used.I have used them for 5 years and they have saved me a lot of pain.If used right they are easier on you than hydrocodone,percocet,vicadin,t ylox,and most other pain meds.Now if you are crushing them and snorting them or melting them down and shooting them up that is quite a different problem.They werent made for that.I dont know if roxicodone will be replaced of not but i take hydro 10s for breakthru pain and it worksd pretty good with a couple xanax before bed i sleep quite wellPeace to those willing to fight for it.

The generics are not weaker then the name brand otherwise they can not be sold. The active ingredients in a generic pill is the same in a brand name. You may be referring to the way you abuse the pills! The brand name Oxycontin 80mg can be easily snorted/shot vs. 80mg generic you have different fillers and coating that make it harder to break up. The only difference between name brand and generic is the fillers/coating. This is just my opinion and I'm not trying to prove the world wrong! Thanks for this forum and PLEASE BE SAFE. Too many lives have been lost from pills and its time to be responsible with how many we take and how we take them. Thanx

[xxjjjxx]

hey i just need help indentifiying a pill that swim has...and also caqn u please post sites that could help me in the future...good ones lol thnx the pill that swim has is greenish white barely white unless u look real close it is small and round almost like a oc 40 mg size i belive the doesage is 15 mg's.( of oxycodone i belive ) i actually think its generic roxicodone but i am not sure the pill on one side is completely blank the other says "A" on one half thn has in imprinted divider on it the other half says "214 on it so one side is blank and the other says "A" with a divider then 214 on the bottom half. sorry for being redundant. can you also please post a good pill identification site and possibly a link with the picture of this pill on it...thank you very much for your time...i;'d also like to thank all those people on this site that are generous and spend time providing peoplpe with educationall information and id like to critize the narcisitic bastards that post faceitious and audacious if thts even a word remarks thanks yall peace be with u and the rest of the world primril usa israel and if possible iraq

[painman]

tenn-hillbilly wrote:

<quoted text>RE:Thanks for your opinion but you just are wrong.Who said anything about breaking them up?Not me,i have enough problems,but anyone that would rather have a generic as a brand name oxy dont take them.Their is a difference and if yuo talk to a chemist they will show you.Peace to those willing to fight for it.

Ok I'm sorry if I referred to you as abusing the pills. I just don't see how the generics can be less potent and still have the same active ingredients minus the fillers.

[tamadrummer]

painman wrote:

<quoted text>
The generics are not weaker then the name brand otherwise they can not be sold. The active ingredients in a generic pill is the same in a brand name. You may be referring to the way you abuse the pills! The brand name Oxycontin 80mg can be easily snorted/shot vs. 80mg generic you have different fillers and coating that make it harder to break up. The only difference between name brand and generic is the fillers/coating. This is just my opinion and I'm not trying to prove the world wrong! Thanks for this forum and PLEASE BE SAFE. Too many lives have been lost from pills and its time to be responsible with how many we take and how we take them. Thanx

Yes, generic medicine is allowed to be within a certain percentage of the original medicine either above or below. I believe that percent to be in the 20% neighborhood. I would have to look it up again but you can believe that a generic manufacturer or the brand will not be adding medicine for free when they can put less and make more pills at the same cost.

So in effect your statement is wrong. There are also very few people looking into the actual product being marketed. If there ends up being a problem then and only then will the fda get involved and start the witch hunt.

[rph]

You guys don't know anything about legal drugs.
When a generic is AB rated by the FDA, it means it's "bioequivalent" to the brand name, which means your body reaction/absortion/availabilit y is the same.
There are "better" generics than others, and the reason why Watson was so good it's because Purdue and Watson were making the same medication, which means Watson was selling the 'brand" Oxycontin as a generic that's why the tablets look alike, and if you held the two original bottles together they look the same and the labels said "manufactured by Purdue".
Don't argue with me since I'm a drugist/pharmacist/chemist and deal with pain management clinics/patients all day long.

[mgz]

anyone that thinks the FDA is doing their job correctly and everyone is safe as long as its"FDA" approved,you are delusional.........there is such a difference with oxy's its a joke.some generics are fine when its just a drug and some binders, but when you get into this controlled release crap then everything changes.an oxy20mg is SUPPOSED to put out 20mg of oxycodone(titrated.....) and sustain that dose for about 12hrs(thats alot of oxycodone,like taking 12pills(10mg percs,2every 4hrs) over a 12hr period).that is complicated shit if you think about it.its not just slowly releasing a drug.the "claim" by purdue is that the drug is titrated over 12hrs,BUT they have no evidence to prove it.(read why they almost lost their patent.)the scientist guessed and never did any controlled trials to prove his THEORY.now if purdue spent so much time and damn money on this formula do you think that endo and teva just magically came up with the same formula..........nope.thats why there is such a difference.the generics got the wrong formula and its not producing the same MG(titration) that its supposed to over a 12hr period........the FDA is just wrong in allowing generics of the original oxycontin when the companies(i.e endo and teva) dont have the same formulation.ITS NOT THE SAME..........

[boby]

Actually Dava has picked up the generic slack. They will be the manufacturers for impax, the only generic left. They're like round Teva's and the only ones to deviate from the colors.

[xxjjjxx]

mgz wrote:

anyone that thinks the FDA is doing their job correctly and everyone is safe as long as its"FDA" approved,you are delusional.........there is such a difference with oxy's its a joke.some generics are fine when its just a drug and some binders, but when you get into this controlled release crap then everything changes.an oxy20mg is SUPPOSED to put out 20mg of oxycodone(titrated.....) and sustain that dose for about 12hrs(thats alot of oxycodone,like taking 12pills(10mg percs,2every 4hrs) over a 12hr period).that is complicated shit if you think about it.its not just slowly releasing a drug.the "claim" by purdue is that the drug is titrated over 12hrs,BUT they have no evidence to prove it.(read why they almost lost their patent.)the scientist guessed and never did any controlled trials to prove his THEORY.now if purdue spent so much time and damn money on this formula do you think that endo and teva just magically came up with the same formula..........nope.thats why there is such a difference.the generics got the wrong formula and its not producing the same MG(titration) that its supposed to over a 12hr period........the FDA is just wrong in allowing generics of the original oxycontin when the companies(i.e endo and teva) dont have the same formulation.ITS NOT THE SAME..........

u are completly wrong if take a 20 mg of oxycontin with the time realese it doesnt elease 20 mgs every hour for 12 hours the whole dosage of 20 mgs is released by 212 hourse big diffrence its like taking one 2 mg percocet every hour for 12 hours...stop misinforming people on this site they look to us fo educated infromation not things u make up in ur delusional mind...sory to be blunt but i hate ignoramouses like youself...ps sory for they typos