Oxycontin

[kydrby4ever]

same drug different manufacturer, one stands for extended release the other controlled released same med... the watson ABG is the generic that you were takin b4 but there about gone, the generics that are left are between 10-20% weaker due to the requirements, they must be within 80% of specs on brand drug to meet requirement... they have no abuse use(cannot snort/smoke/shoot) the other generics lowering the street value.... 60% of use is abuse so most will demand brand only! alot of people that dont abuse but resell there drug(part of script) to cut costs, however the useless generics will not be desired...the lawsuit oxycontin won eliminated all generics (watson ABG) was the same as brand w/ different markings, the other generics are weaker, clearly weaker...

[eroccoo]

Hi gang... I have been thru pain mngt for about 2 years now. The patch worked great, but as the weather started getting warmer, the patch would not stay on... even with the tegaderm covers.( I was on the 50 MCG patch) The doctor switched me to 20 MG opana er. It worked fantastically well for the pain, but made me very sleepy. So now I take 1- 10 MG in the morning and 1-20 MG in the evening. So far it seems to be a very good trial, but I am using 1 more percecet than usual. I guess that should be expected. Once my body fully titrates to the opana, maybe I could get back to the 2-20 MG 2x's a day. At that level, I needed very few IR's if any.
Thanks,
rocco

[matt]

overseas wrote:

hi tg...maybe your tolerance is up...what do you think??? i only feel them for about an hour or so after taking them...then its back to "wondering" about what i have left..my GP doesnt prescribe them for me anymore...i went and saw a drug and alcohol specialist and we worked out a tapering schedule...i was taking between 320-400mg a day when i saw the specialist...my choices were to go on methadone or suboxone or begin reducing {10mg every 20 days}starting at 160 mg a day... i am seriously considering suboxone because i really dont have a grip on this...see ya

yo could you send oxycotin over here in the us

[john]

where can you buy oxycotin on internet.

[kydrby4ever]

john wrote:

where can you buy oxycotin on internet.

ya cant if ya try you get scammed... the drug legally cannot be mailed w/i the us borders... so out a country is bs and in country no company will risk there business... fly to a state thats liberal and set up w/ a dr there as if ya just moved there.. see pain mgmt and your set...once a month fly there and refill

[jackie 36 year old]

john wrote:

where can you buy oxycotin on internet.

i can belive you wont to take oxycontin by choice

[margaret641]

I have been tking oxy 20 er for about 2 years now however in my area the local drugstores have switched to a generic by watson, i do not seem to be getting the same relief from these generics, I drove about 30 miles to a pharmacy that has the teva,s, has anyone else experienced a problem with watson generics?

[kydrby4ever]

margaret641 wrote:

I have been tking oxy 20 er for about 2 years now however in my area the local drugstores have switched to a generic by watson, i do not seem to be getting the same relief from these generics, I drove about 30 miles to a pharmacy that has the teva,s, has anyone else experienced a problem with watson generics?

the round watson (ABG) generic is equal/same as the brand pill, the teva is fully time released, cannot be abused"shoot/snort" from what Ive learned they are weaker(teva) but time release a lil better than brand/watson, but brand/watson are totally abusable and stronger than the rest(endo/teva), basically the short term side of brand/watson is stronger but the long term affects of teva/endo is better... only comparing these using as prescribed.......watson/brand were designed to be abused, statistics show the abuse rate/brand comparisons, and street prices never lie which one is "demanded"/"pre ferred".... I keep both personally and my day dose is abg and eve dose is teva... get the best results taht way... but not taking now, been off them for a few weeks + now... good luck...

[jup]

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80mg ABGs $30

[kydrby4ever]

bottom line, I think if you are on a med and 160mg a day aint cuttn the pain to a tolerable amount, you should be bed riddin in a hospital, no way under any terms do you need 3 or 4 or 5 80s a day, if someone was never on this, and went to a hospital for an issue (pain) and were given 80mg oxy, theyd be sedated... I know a morphine drip on women in delivery is only a tiny bit stronger than an 80..so the only reason for needing more is tolerance, and on that note, the dr should dose ya for a week and then ween ya, then dose then ween... teach you how, then supply you monthly... this wont happen, bcuz no one will convince me that the govt and drs arent gettn huge kickbacks from this (legal drug dealing)... methadone was and is used for one reason, the gov is the maker/owner/dealer and profiter of it.... I do not believe its a publicly traded co.(making it) its doled out in 1000 pills scripts to junkies ... and the gov is gettn fat over it...the heroine money goes to them now... thats the reason they refused subs in usa for so long... it was private company competition...theyve been in europe since 1995(france) proven drug overdose dropoff of 79% by 1999, thats huge stat...drug related theft(feedn heroine habit) down 45% by 1999, they are the answer, subutex/suboxone, 100% w/d free, and anti depressant in one...we know the drs are gettn paid on every direction, in fl we have pain mgmt/detox ctr in same office, w/ in house pharmacy, let me explain, you go in w/ mri showing injury, they give you scripts for oxy/roxy (you fill in there pharmacy, then a few yrs later your strung out, go to same dr say u want off meds, they charge ya again monthly and set ya up on subs.... and fill on way out.... they get paid on both sides of the game, and you know why the drugs cost so much, its not research, its the kick backs, drs going to hawaii for 2 weeks for a 20 min seminar on a drug, family invited all travel/spending money included, then the dr and drug co both write off the costs come tax time.... thats a kick back where I come from....as for my detox, I do it regularly, but this time, I went from 250mg to zero overnght(subs) usually I scale down for weeks prior, but subutex sultan was a huge help, advice regarding them... I will have to go back on, but as always I crawl to my big dose over time, and been on same dose for 6yrs w/o issues and I do phys labor for a living, so these people that say I need 4 80s a day plus B/T meds are fooling themselves and there drs.... if the dr gave them 10 80s a day, in 2 mos they would need more....so who is bs ing who.... its the system... excess is an issue in this country, suing the drug maker for a habit you created yourself! if you had diabetes and the dr said take 1 shot a day and ya took 30days worth a week, who is at fault? certainly not the drug co....not even the dr....its your fault! if ya bought 50 snicker bars and died of sugar toxicity for eating them in one day, are ya gonna sue the candy co? oh wait, dont answer... FAT PEOPLE sueing mc donalds and smokers suing big tobacco... we already have that answer, anything to cash in....thats the problem....as for you,"quitting/taking a break to reset your tolerance" subs are the answer, if ya do it, youll appreciate everything about pain meds when ya go back on, cuz ya get full effects after drying out! like the 1st time ya ate two percs, wow that was a good day...(1) roxy will set ya strait... something ya cant say right now!

[kydrby4ever]

lets be realistic, the drug maker/drug are not the issue, the drs knew the strength of the med, 8omgs is 80mgs, its not like they had a magic method to designing it, the drs just knew they had an out! they should never have prescribed more than its designed dose, 80mg 2x a day, when the patient complained its no longer sedating pain, that was a sign to scale it back and then go up as needed, never increasing the dose above the 2x 80mg, the complaints were not accurate, it still works, the patient didnt get a tolerance to the drug, the tolerance was to the feeling when on the drug, simply put, they got use to the feeling that the drug gave them, it was still relieving the pain, they just adjusted to the dose, where they no longer felt it "kick in"!! something they never should have felt after the 1st few days of use... At that point the drs are suppose to review the situation... not just prescribe more! simple fact is, a woman giving birth or a patient bed ridden in pain, would be ok w/ and 80mg oxy, probobly be sedated, so why would a functioning person in society need more than that dose at any time aside from tolerance? That being said, theres no valid reason to prescribe more than 2x 80mg daily and the occasional break thru med that goes along w/ the time released med... The dr knew when he wrote the med that its 80mg, regardless of what a sales rep from purdue "told him" he knew indirectly it was (8) percoset 10mg in ea pill.... and prior to the introduction of oxycontin, no dr would have prescribed (8) 10mg percs to be taken more than 2x a day!!!! knowing he was setting a patient up for dissaster!! and jeoperdizing his own reputation!!! so there was/is no justification for prescribing that volume of oxy 80s aside from the fact that he(the dr) wasnt going to be held liable... which means the dr, knew and didnt care, they are the ones that should be accountable!!! not the drug maker

[C TOWN]

Is 4 (20)mg oxtcontin or 2 (40)oxycontin mg thesame or equivelent to as a (80)mg OC if not whats the difference a friend said 80's have morphine in them opposed to 40 and 20's have no morphines butthe same opiate %. PLease let me know if you are sure and not just guessing ?

[kydrby4ever]

C TOWN wrote:

Is 4 (20)mg oxtcontin or 2 (40)oxycontin mg thesame or equivelent to as a (80)mg OC if not whats the difference a friend said 80's have morphine in them opposed to 40 and 20's have no morphines butthe same opiate %. PLease let me know if you are sure and not just guessing ?

your friend is totally wrong, the pills are the same, the size differnce is different due to the particles that make up the time release, the medicine is covered by a time release coat, once it wears off 15% of the med is released, then the med is coated in small increments so as it breaks down in your body, only so much is released at a time, allowing it to work for extended amounts of time, they say 12hrs but its more like 8hrs full strength and about 1/2 strength for 2hrs then fades over the last 2hrs, I always tell people to plan it every 12 hrs but time your b/t (break thru med) to be used during the final 2hrs and prior to taking your next dose...

[rdy]

Laurie wrote:

i take 2 100mg in the morning; and 2 100 mg of ms-contin ER at night, and my doctor gives me 4 30mg of ms-contin IR for breakthrough pain all day...so total 400mg a DAY of ER and 120mg of IR, I have been taking it for TWO YEARS. They also give me 60 2mg of xanax, that i take, but always break them up so I never take the whole 2mg at once. What I want too know is does the SUBUTEX, or BUPRENORPHINE, or BUPRENEX work?? I have no energy, obviously by the dosage I am taking, and I have no life, I don't want to take them anymore and I would do anything to stop. Has anyone tried these meds, and if so, do they work to get you off the MS-CONTIN? I so want a life back.

Laurie, If your taking that much oxycontin, you should be flying. The doctor may have you on the wrong pain meds. I take 40mg twice a day (1 year now) & I get more work done thatn ever before. Talk to your doctor asap but don't just stop taking that dosage.

[kydrby4ever]

rdy wrote:

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Laurie, If your taking that much oxycontin, you should be flying. The doctor may have you on the wrong pain meds. I take 40mg twice a day (1 year now) & I get more work done thatn ever before. Talk to your doctor asap but don't just stop taking that dosage.

laurie, email me ill explain how i stopped with subs and if you read the posts on (new drug works on addiction but may cause one) up top in this forum, itll explain subs, read the posts... [e-mail] I have been off all for a month and did it in 6days w/ subutex, I dont take anything now, ill explain when ya email me, ill give ya my # and walk ya through it, ive been posting here for a while now, and help alot of people get off the meds... Marc

[ABd45]

kydrby4ever wrote:

<quoted text>laurie, email me ill explain how i stopped with subs and if you read the posts on (new drug works on addiction but may cause one) up top in this forum, itll explain subs, read the posts... [e-mail] I have been off all for a month and did it in 6days w/ subutex, I dont take anything now, ill explain when ya email me, ill give ya my # and walk ya through it, ive been posting here for a while now, and help alot of people get off the meds... Marc

Well heres another testimental so far. Marc is correct, subs seem to help wonderfully with withdrawl and cravings. Little strange at first, however I have yet to see how easy they are to get off?

[ABd45]

Still trying to decide if just stopping subs at .5 mg will work best or waiting to see if i "need" to continue down further. I guess i will have to decide when the time comes.

[ABd45]

The big question to me seems to be when to jump off and making vertian Im not mistaking the little psychological portion which results after skiping the 24 hour mark, to be real w/ds.........I dont wanna make that mistake and continue subs for longer then 5 days tops

[nicolana]

ive been reading what everyone has to say my doctor would never give me so much medication as some of u guys take.no matter how much i begged or how much pain i was in. i take 2 10mg methadone a day and 2 7.5 hydrocodone a day for breakthru pain. i am still in pain everyday but it is better to get up and exercise i find that stretching excercises such as pilates or taichi helps a lot/ i have fibro,degenerative disc disease with two prior neck surgeries and need another neck surgery. i also have chronic migraines with vomiting for 3to 5 days at a time. i started taking elavil and a musclerelaxer called zanaflex its tizinidine, but that helps more than anything so far. i try to take nonnarcotics as much as possible. if your taking the medication for pain i dont see how u can be an addict, unless u r just trying to get high. i would like to find out about subutex/ is it a painreleiver?

[kydrby4ever]

nicolana wrote:

ive been reading what everyone has to say my doctor would never give me so much medication as some of u guys take.no matter how much i begged or how much pain i was in. i take 2 10mg methadone a day and 2 7.5 hydrocodone a day for breakthru pain. i am still in pain everyday but it is better to get up and exercise i find that stretching excercises such as pilates or taichi helps a lot/ i have fibro,degenerative disc disease with two prior neck surgeries and need another neck surgery. i also have chronic migraines with vomiting for 3to 5 days at a time. i started taking elavil and a musclerelaxer called zanaflex its tizinidine, but that helps more than anything so far. i try to take nonnarcotics as much as possible. if your taking the medication for pain i dont see how u can be an addict, unless u r just trying to get high. i would like to find out about subutex/ is it a painreleiver?

subs are for detoxin but give some pain relief....