Trying to wean myself and quit taking hydrocodone,need advice

[Lamamma]

Yes. Take TONS of immodium, 3-4 Tagamet, tonic water, WHITE grapefruit juice, and benadryl to sleep.

[Jesse]

Awesome! Think I will give it a try.
Thanks Lamamma

[Lamamma]

No problem jesse! You can do it! Please let me know how it goes!

[Jesse]

I will. Just curious about the tonic water and white grape fruit juice, they were not in the Thomas recipe that I saw unless I overlooked them before posting I was thinking about adding Gatoraide or something to replace electrolytes from dehydration. Just curious?
Refill my Xanax on Wed. and plan on starting then. Im making my shopping list now.

Again,
Thanks Lamamma

[Lamamma]

Jesse wrote:

I will. Just curious about the tonic water and white grape fruit juice, they were not in the Thomas recipe that I saw unless I overlooked them before posting I was thinking about adding Gatoraide or something to replace electrolytes from dehydration. Just curious?
Refill my Xanax on Wed. and plan on starting then. Im making my shopping list now.

Again,
Thanks Lamamma

The tonic and juice are potentiators, which will make the immodium last longer and stronger. Much like if you wanted to potentiate hydro. Careful with the Xanax. Xanax withdrawal is hell (from what I hear) and can cause psychotic episodes if stopped suddenly! Take only for sleep!!!
Hang in there dude! You can do this!!! Keep posting!!

[Jesse]

Ahh! Yes now I remember checking interactions on drugdigest.org (as i do with most meds i take) The juice will potentiate xanax also,and I just checked and there is something in Tagament that also potentiates xanax. Will definately start VERY sparingly with the xanax 1/2mg maybe.Sounds like you have been there and done that Lamamma,what a great help you have been.
Thigh burn has usually been my worst symptom in the past,so I will probably just spend most of the time in a hot bath just like the recipe says.
THANKS AGAIN!

[Jesse]

Question I forgot...Should I substitute the L-Tyrisone with Kratom for the release of endorphines or stick with the L-Tyrisone?

[Lamamma]

Jesse wrote:

Question I forgot...Should I substitute the L-Tyrisone with Kratom for the release of endorphines or stick with the L-Tyrisone?

Stick with the l-tyrisone, PLEASE!!!!
And yea, This ain't my first rodeo.

[Jesse]

I will, Sun Harvest has it on sale for around 8 dollars.
Funny I kicked Methadone years ago(with help of a Doc) but now am having such a time with Hydrocodyne. No doc this time and two surgeries back to back. But I have gotten down from 10-12 Norco per day to 4 or 5. But about to wipe that slate clean with the help of my new best friend...Lamamma!

YOU ROCK!

[Jesse]

It does kind of make me feel a little wimpy though
because I was on around 180-200mg (Dome) daily for 5 yrs for debilitating Sciatica. Just havent pulled off a hydro. detox in 15-20 yrs. Probbly just getting too old crap.

[Jesse]

My PM doc gave me a script for Gabapentin (for pain) a while back, Are you familiar with this? Could or should I benefit from taking this if the process starts to become unbearable?

Thanks!

[Jesse]

Also it looks like Centrum (b6 zinc etc), has all the vitamins and stuff.Would you recommend it?

[Matt]

Jesse wrote:

Also it looks like Centrum (b6 zinc etc), has all the vitamins and stuff.Would you recommend it?

I'm quitting this week too. I've done it before, but I am not real excited about this time. My wife can't know shit and I am working on my plan right now!!!!!

[Matt]

So my plan works like this. Tons of it is in the head, so I know that going into it. I have a stash to wean. I am on a 60mg oxy habit daily. So tomorrow is day one of the step down. 15mgs in the morning, then 15mgs at around 5pm. Thursday, 15mgs in the morning and 15mgs at 4pm. Friday, 15mgs 5pm. Saturday, 5:30pm 10mg hydro, one 50 mg tram at bed to sleep. Sunday. one 10mg hydro morning, one tram at 6pm. Monday morning, back at work, one 50mg tram. Tuesday, one 50mg tram in the morning. Wednesday nothing, by June 26th (Sunday), I'm perfect!!!

[Lamamma]

Hey Jesse!!! So sorry I haven't been around! Do u mean lyrica? Or neurontin I think? Many claim it to be helpful with both withdrawals and pain. I have never taken it, despite the fact I have some lyrica in my drawer! My advice is if u take it, not to habituate yourself to it! Methadone is an opiate agonist, and if u were taking it in "decent" amounts, it can be weaned off if fairly easily. Norco, after prolonged use, fu&$s with your receptors to the point where u can feel like you are gojng crazy when u suddenly stop. But, YOU ARE DOING AMAZINGLY! Please keep going! I am here and if u register, u can pm me?

[Jesse]

Im supposed to get an email when someone posts this thread but its not working. But I check it often.
Your sure right about about the Norco! The receptors go nuts. That is probably why the Thomas recipe says on the first day of malaise take 2000 mg of the L-Tyrosine? I did my shopping today and they had everything but the Tagament. How important do you think it is? I think the Grapefruit juice may potentiate the xanax enough. What do you think? I get 120 bar refill tomorrow and will probably get started. I am perscribed 4 bars a day but usually take only take 2-3 at best.You did recommend all the additional things as potentiaters correct? I can still go get Tagament if you think it is real important.You have done it before. I havent!
Matt,the best of luck to you bud, I had to use some oxy for a few days in between Norco refills. That stuff is strong I had to take like 4 or 5 Norco just to try to re-adjust. Thomas method may work for that as well, I already ran cable and ac to my bathroom for tv because I got a feeling Ill be in a hot bath about the whole time except for eating and sleeping.Trying to be optomistic.I did buy the large bottle of Immodium though.

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[Matt]

It's 4 or 5 days at best. I can do anything for 4 or 5 days I'd imagine, including not giving into withdraws. After that it is smooth sailing.

[Lamamma]

Take TONS of immodium. More than u think u need. I would suggest the Tagamet highly. Target makes a generic for half the price!!! Because u are detoxing from hydro and not Oxy, it should be much easier. When's the official start date?

[Jesse]

Sorry Lamamma, I didn't answer your question,Yes Neurontin is Gabapentin, I just googled it. Does the Tagamet potentiate the Immodium also? I guess the Tonic water and juice will help with dehydration also.
Im not sure when to start I have weaned to the point of leg burns and the sniffles already and just got my stuff today except for the Tagamet.
I broke the rest of my Norco in half and have about 45 halves left. Once you stop completely it is supposed to hit on day 4 right. I think I remember the recipe saying wean as low as you can before starting. Ill probably start on Thur. since I get my xanax tomorrow.So I will probably try to be prepared to wake up in Hell Sun or Mon,I have the tub all scrubbed down and pretty much ready to go. Mental anguish,the runs and thigh burns is usually my worst symptoms.I feel pretty optomistic with the L-Tyrosine,actually with the whole recipe.Please let me know what the Tagamet helps with ,ok?
THANKS!

[Jesse]

It said to get the L-Tyrosine going as soon as you wake up and wait an hour before you eat.Eat and then treat symptomatically after that I think And I know what everything is for now except the Tagamet. Ill definatey be slamming those fluids,pretty sure of that.