Two scammers are really working this board

[RONDOG]

I have posted over and over about the evils that come along with buying oxy on-line. A good friend lost $800 to 2 parasites that have been working this board bigtime. So all of you people that continue to give these morons your money I dont now why you keep doing this but I am about to do something I have never thought of doing in my life. I am going to give all this information I have on these two assholes to the Police. So Gary Kellerman and Steve Voitivick you are being reported to the cops. I have this big ole folder of information I have been collecting on these two idiots for some time now and I think it is time for the professionals to do their job. THis is a crime that does not get reported because 1. Its Illegal and 2. The ones that get taken are to embarrased to turn them in because they got taken. But they didnt take squat from me. I have ot broken any law here. I am acting as a advocate for the people that get RIPPED OFF. Whether or not the cops do anything will be seen. I do want the local Law Enforcement of Gary Kellerman and Steve Voitivick to have these folders of stuff tho. I just hope that you people STOP sending your money to these idiots ripoff assholes. I am looking for ya.

Peace RonDog

[john]

RONDOG wrote:

I have posted over and over about the evils that come along with buying oxy on-line. A good friend lost $800 to 2 parasites that have been working this board bigtime. So all of you people that continue to give these morons your money I dont now why you keep doing this but I am about to do something I have never thought of doing in my life. I am going to give all this information I have on these two assholes to the Police. So Gary Kellerman and Steve Voitivick you are being reported to the cops. I have this big ole folder of information I have been collecting on these two idiots for some time now and I think it is time for the professionals to do their job. THis is a crime that does not get reported because 1. Its Illegal and 2. The ones that get taken are to embarrased to turn them in because they got taken. But they didnt take squat from me. I have ot broken any law here. I am acting as a advocate for the people that get RIPPED OFF. Whether or not the cops do anything will be seen. I do want the local Law Enforcement of Gary Kellerman and Steve Voitivick to have these folders of stuff tho. I just hope that you people STOP sending your money to these idiots ripoff assholes. I am looking for ya.
Peace RonDog

hey RON DOG...y dont u mind your f*****g business... if the people that ripped off wanna report anything theyll do it themself...u must really have nothing better to do u idiot

[RONDOG]

john wrote:

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hey RON DOG...y dont u mind your f*****g business... if the people that ripped off wanna report anything theyll do it themself...u must really have nothing better to do u idiot

I am minding my business John. Why are you one of the scammers looking to rip people off? Why do you just shut your hole and go snort something. I will mind mine you mind yours. That is if you can find it.

RonDog

[RONDOG]

john wrote:

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hey RON DOG...y dont u mind your f*****g business... if the people that ripped off wanna report anything theyll do it themself...u must really have nothing better to do u idiot

And you are right for once in your life. I do have ALOT of time on my hands. I am disabled so I have all kinds of time on my hands. Am I an idiot? I dont think so.....

Peace
RonDog

[Stacey]

Hey RonDog..good for you!!!! Btw, what were their emails, any idea?

Have a great day!!

[ben]

hi Rondog, I'm glade you're taking a stand. I used to come on here alot last year and got much help from others like you. Keep up the good fight!
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ben

[StaggerLee]

Steve Voitivick is definitely a scammer (Surrey, British Columbia). And John, you'd definitely be grateful for Rondog's vigilance if you were approached by one of these scammers but knew in advance they were rip-off artists. Anyone on these boards has time on their hands from time to time so you're not one to talk. It's a great resource for understanding the community and getting advice and meeting good people...yes there are good people on this board despite the scammers that try to bring us down.

[StaggerLee]

Stacey - Here is Steve's email. I will post Gary's once I know for sure he is a scammer. He is claiming to fill an order but he has two days to do so. Already over a week late though so I'm very skeptical. As for Steve, I'm sure he's a scammer from several sources I've talked to.

[e-mail] (Steve)

[xc04runner]

RONDOG wrote:

I have posted over and over about the evils that come along with buying oxy on-line. A good friend lost $800 to 2 parasites that have been working this board bigtime. So all of you people that continue to give these morons your money I dont now why you keep doing this but I am about to do something I have never thought of doing in my life. I am going to give all this information I have on these two assholes to the Police. So Gary Kellerman and Steve Voitivick you are being reported to the cops. I have this big ole folder of information I have been collecting on these two idiots for some time now and I think it is time for the professionals to do their job. THis is a crime that does not get reported because 1. Its Illegal and 2. The ones that get taken are to embarrased to turn them in because they got taken. But they didnt take squat from me. I have ot broken any law here. I am acting as a advocate for the people that get RIPPED OFF. Whether or not the cops do anything will be seen. I do want the local Law Enforcement of Gary Kellerman and Steve Voitivick to have these folders of stuff tho. I just hope that you people STOP sending your money to these idiots ripoff assholes. I am looking for ya.
Peace RonDog

RonDog,

I need to talk to you about something related to this topic, but rather not say specifics on here is there anyway we can exchange emails. I understand if you don't want to put yours on here, so with that said mine is [e-mail] please contact me.

[Stacey]

I havent heard of them. Thanks for the warnings though!

[MSO4]

RONDOG wrote:

I have posted over and over about the evils that come along with buying oxy on-line. A good friend lost $800 to 2 parasites that have been working this board bigtime. So all of you people that continue to give these morons your money I dont now why you keep doing this but I am about to do something I have never thought of doing in my life. I am going to give all this information I have on these two assholes to the Police. So Gary Kellerman and Steve Voitivick you are being reported to the cops. I have this big ole folder of information I have been collecting on these two idiots for some time now and I think it is time for the professionals to do their job. THis is a crime that does not get reported because 1. Its Illegal and 2. The ones that get taken are to embarrased to turn them in because they got taken. But they didnt take squat from me. I have ot broken any law here. I am acting as a advocate for the people that get RIPPED OFF. Whether or not the cops do anything will be seen. I do want the local Law Enforcement of Gary Kellerman and Steve Voitivick to have these folders of stuff tho. I just hope that you people STOP sending your money to these idiots ripoff assholes. I am looking for ya.
Peace RonDog

Good for them. If these addicts would get off of their constipated a** instead of trying to stay high things might turn for the better. And, you might think twice before calling the law. They may want to know why you were trying to purchase a class II narcotic online.

[RONDOG]

MSO4 wrote:

<quoted text>Good for them. If these addicts would get off of their constipated a** instead of trying to stay high things might turn for the better. And, you might think twice before calling the law. They may want to know why you were trying to purchase a class II narcotic online.

I have already done it. I had nothing to worry about because I have NEVER bought one thing illegal on the net. I am doing this for a few friends who DID get ripped off and dont want to push it because of that fact. The "Law" actually thanked me for giving them the information on these two. Come to find out that they already have a report on both of these "People". Besides that I just want the scamming to stop. These idiots prey on people and they make me sick. It is time to give them something in return for their stealing others money. We are talkking about ALOT of money here. So stay safe and who knows maybe something will happen with these two maybe it wont. At least they are investigating the whole thing so that is a start.

Peace
RonDog

[BC er]

Glad to see some thing done with scamers.. i remember i was takedn from a riverdancekid@hush. and he was scum scammer. i know i shouldnt' have but did... he lived from what i gatherd he was from the NY area... and had said he only sold by 30s but if someone reallly going to sell they dont' care.. long as you pay shippin... what sweat is is off there back... goood for you Rondong.!! and he have there fake listt send to you and make look good.. like others say just dnt buy... net scamers are low. was hard to find someone legit and stnd up..

[GRap]

yea i good for you ron fuck scammers.. i tell people who live anywhere near me id can hook it up on somethings if the moneys right for boths sides and someones willing to drive to michigan and meet up in person have some lunch work out some bizz.. but id prolly never even expect someone to send me money from the get go?? not smart people this isnt ebay you cant use paypal for pills lol i just hate seening people on here asking if its a striaght price to pay $80-100 for some o.c. plus my brother was in a hardcore acciedent where some dumb drunk girl hit him with an envoy while he was crossing the street so he been dealing with all that pain for 3 years now and i dont pay much for anything

[Been There]

STAY AWAY FROM "[e-mail] " SCAMMER!!!

[Been There]

DON'T LISTEN TO DAVE R, HE IS [e-mail]... HE'S AN A**HOLE RIPPOFF SCAM!

[Richie Rich]

RONDOG wrote:

I have posted over and over about the evils that come along with buying oxy on-line. A good friend lost $800 to 2 parasites that have been working this board bigtime. So all of you people that continue to give these morons your money I dont now why you keep doing this but I am about to do something I have never thought of doing in my life. I am going to give all this information I have on these two assholes to the Police. So Gary Kellerman and Steve Voitivick you are being reported to the cops. I have this big ole folder of information I have been collecting on these two idiots for some time now and I think it is time for the professionals to do their job. THis is a crime that does not get reported because 1. Its Illegal and 2. The ones that get taken are to embarrased to turn them in because they got taken. But they didnt take squat from me. I have ot broken any law here. I am acting as a advocate for the people that get RIPPED OFF. Whether or not the cops do anything will be seen. I do want the local Law Enforcement of Gary Kellerman and Steve Voitivick to have these folders of stuff tho. I just hope that you people STOP sending your money to these idiots ripoff assholes. I am looking for ya.
Peace RonDog

So, if I got this straight, you're reporting people for advertising pills, and not delivering, which is a crime, fraud, embezzlement, theft, false advertising or whatever, right? Point being it is a crime. On the other hand, if the people you know paid for and received the pills, you would not report anything? Even though it is a crime as well, sale of narcotics, trafficking narcotics across state lines, diverting medication to someone for whom it is not prescribed etc...? Sounds like you're just being a hypocrite to me. Whats wrong with the mentality that, if you're dumb enough to send someone who you have no idea who they are money to buy something that is illegal to buy and sell, you deserve to have your money taken for being stupid and not using your common sense. Anyone who needs pain medications legitimately can go to a doctor and get them. If you're willing to pay street prices for pills, say for example 30 OxyContin 80's for $40 a piece that comes to $1200, the money you're spending is more than enough to see a pain doctor and fill a 30 day prescription.

[Richie Rich]

StaggerLee wrote:

Steve Voitivick is definitely a scammer (Surrey, British Columbia). And John, you'd definitely be grateful for Rondog's vigilance if you were approached by one of these scammers but knew in advance they were rip-off artists. Anyone on these boards has time on their hands from time to time so you're not one to talk. It's a great resource for understanding the community and getting advice and meeting good people...yes there are good people on this board despite the scammers that try to bring us down.

I for one like RonDog, it's just that in this situation in particular, going to the cops is just hypocritical and stupid in my mind. I love to see the lists and posts warning of the people that are scamming people, but due to the nature of what goes on in here, I don't think anyone needs to make formal complaints to the police. All he is going to accomplish is having a local detective in his area coming on this board, so it puts heat on the "legit" people on here. Like I said for the most part I think RonDog is a good guy, and he has a wealth of information for helping people. But I just don't understand his logic sometimes. A few weeks ago someone was in his area on business and needed some Oxy, Morphine, or Methadone to keep from getting withdrawals, and he helped him get some medicine by some means that included him driving to meet up with the person. In doing it, the poor guy needs a new bumper because a raccoon messed up his car. He also said "I feel awesome about it" which is cool, people helping people, something I'm all for. But on the other hand, one time I posted that I was thinking about getting on subs for a while, but still was going to go to my pain Dr. to get my Roxi 30s and "help" people that might need them. I got a reply from RonDog telling me that "I hope you have enough subs to last for your withdrawal while you sit in jail." Again, seems like a good guy, but to me he contradicts himself sometimes.

[maddy]

Richie Rich wrote:

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So, if I got this straight, you're reporting people for advertising pills, and not delivering, which is a crime, fraud, embezzlement, theft, false advertising or whatever, right? Point being it is a crime. On the other hand, if the people you know paid for and received the pills, you would not report anything? Even though it is a crime as well, sale of narcotics, trafficking narcotics across state lines, diverting medication to someone for whom it is not prescribed etc...? Sounds like you're just being a hypocrite to me. Whats wrong with the mentality that, if you're dumb enough to send someone who you have no idea who they are money to buy something that is illegal to buy and sell, you deserve to have your money taken for being stupid and not using your common sense. Anyone who needs pain medications legitimately can go to a doctor and get them. If you're willing to pay street prices for pills, say for example 30 OxyContin 80's for $40 a piece that comes to $1200, the money you're spending is more than enough to see a pain doctor and fill a 30 day prescription.

well this sounds very logical, never thought of it like that...

[MSO4]

Richie Rich wrote:

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I for one like RonDog, it's just that in this situation in particular, going to the cops is just hypocritical and stupid in my mind. I love to see the lists and posts warning of the people that are scamming people, but due to the nature of what goes on in here, I don't think anyone needs to make formal complaints to the police. All he is going to accomplish is having a local detective in his area coming on this board, so it puts heat on the "legit" people on here. Like I said for the most part I think RonDog is a good guy, and he has a wealth of information for helping people. But I just don't understand his logic sometimes. A few weeks ago someone was in his area on business and needed some Oxy, Morphine, or Methadone to keep from getting withdrawals, and he helped him get some medicine by some means that included him driving to meet up with the person. In doing it, the poor guy needs a new bumper because a raccoon messed up his car. He also said "I feel awesome about it" which is cool, people helping people, something I'm all for. But on the other hand, one time I posted that I was thinking about getting on subs for a while, but still was going to go to my pain Dr. to get my Roxi 30s and "help" people that might need them. I got a reply from RonDog telling me that "I hope you have enough subs to last for your withdrawal while you sit in jail." Again, seems like a good guy, but to me he contradicts himself sometimes.

Then again when he is stoned his thought process is not logical. Hence he gets all in trouble.