How can I self- detox from Oxycontin?

Nevermind its from june 29th and he has not returned.

peace
piercit

usedtobbigb

El Cajon, CA

Linda Holt MI wrote:

Are you kidding me!two to three weeks ! Does it depend on how much you've been using? My Doc is supervising ans says I will feel "dramatically" better after three days,he prescribed Clonidine and Ativan. I'm two days into this. Can someone tell me if my doctor is full of it!

well i did 4 days in a detox and they gave me meds for two days then they quite everything on me
its day 6 and my energy is up and down my stomach is wreched most of the time and i cant fffffing sleep last night i wanted to jump out of my skin , take tylenol pm to sleep it helped me or benedril good luck i will never go back never!!!!!! they gave adavan i think it did work a little

Informed Source

Lexington, KY

Porozmawiajmy wrote:

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See there you going again..keeping that bond of marriage strong, letting her know you just don't want to be a moment away from her if you can help it. So nice to see a post from you, something uplifting about you buddy. How are the kitty's coming along...boo-bee...well men will be men, and that is not a bad thing in my over outlook on men...hey how did we get all deep and crap...see what you do when u get me posting..lol..all your fault...damnit! Glad your back!
Peace
J

3am Power nap complete> I saw you had posted to me on Wed. but I didn't have time to get back to ya. Then Thursday morning I searched for that post and after 30min I gave up and just scrooled down till I saw your name and Poof There was the POST!.But, looking for your post I read all kinds of stuff, funny stuff,crazy stuff and mystic stuff!!! Alot of stuff.
Boo and Bee!! They are fun fun fun!! Thursday I was out playing with the dog and in between catching the frizbee and bring it back, she keeps going over to this big pompass grass and circling around it, and after awhile I thought maybe Bee had snuck out of the house and was down there in the grass, or maybe a baby bird, ya know? Sooo, I go over and the grass starts moving and meow meow meow out come kitty #3 hahahahah. So now on Friday morning we have Boo Bee and Kitty #3 Casper! He is solid Black LOL!!
On a sad note Oscar a cat we have had 8 years past away last week in a tragic accident. I had been home a few hours and had to run out for a bit. I saw Oscar was laying in the driveway sunning his bones when I was leaving and I went over and picked him up and carried over out of the way and set him down on this landscape wall. and I left took the dog with me.When I get back I pull in turn around like 10 million time befor,back up this little hill and at the very end I thaought I had run over the garden hose.
It was Oscars legs.

Informed Source

Lexington, KY

I knew it wasnt the hose. I jump out and oh my God, there he is trying to drag himself across the drive...I picked him up real quick but I knew I had to put him down..And fast..He is biried in the Family Pet cemetary in our back yard. Millie the Millenium dog is there,Got her on New Years eve 1999, and Tomtom,Harvey,Tiny Tim,Nulla. RIP Gods gift to humanity...Peace

determinedhopele ss

Wheeling, WV

HitMe wrote:

Seems like you are determined and off to a good start. I'm just curious, how much oxy were you doing? Are you determined to go cold turkey once you run out or are you willing to try other methods? Depending on how bad your habbit, weening off the vics and going cold turkey may be tough. Do you have some sick time at work because if you go through bad withdrawals you may need it. I ask you how much oxy you were doing because if you are manageing on mgs of vicodin per day that is pretty good.
You mention depression. I have my own depression issues so I am sensitive to that and I also realize when you are on opiates you don't feel the depression but when you come off it's that much worse. Do you feel there are underlying issues causing the depression? BEcause if you don't work on that, getting off the oxys are going to multiply your depression over again. Seeing a therapist isn't a bad idea or psychiatrist who can put you on an anti depressant. I guess it would help to know a little more about your situation.
HM
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Thanks. I am determined to go off cold turkey after the vicodin runs out in a couple days. I was taking the 10/325 6x daily, sometimes even more. And you are right, they REALLY helped with the depression issue. I just figure I will go back to my old unhappy self.
My profession allows me to be off work right now, so that's good. But I DO have a young boy and a younger pup who demand my attention. Above that, we are moving soon.
Any further suggestions from anyone would be very welcome!

piercit

determinedhopeless wrote:

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Thanks. I am determined to go off cold turkey after the vicodin runs out in a couple days. I was taking the 10/325 6x daily, sometimes even more. And you are right, they REALLY helped with the depression issue. I just figure I will go back to my old unhappy self.
My profession allows me to be off work right now, so that's good. But I DO have a young boy and a younger pup who demand my attention. Above that, we are moving soon.
Any further suggestions from anyone would be very welcome!

Yes, Good luck for sure...did you read thread 1940? I left this for you and wanted to make sure you noticed it in among the many posts here.

peace
piercit

ISLANDGIRL

Hi all! After reading almost all the posts from beginning to end, I've come to the conclusion that my husband and I are pretty much screwed to say the least. I've been on oxy for almost 3 years. My husband has been taking them for about 1 1/2 years. We both started at 5mg 4x a day and now we're at 30mg 4x a day. I have gotten to the point of abusing my pills. Some days I'll take as much as 120mg in one shot! I'm trying to ween myself off by only taking 15mg but my lack of control and/or will power is preventing me to keep weening. I end up just say f&ch it and I'll take as much as I need to make those icky skin crawling feelings go away.
After reading most of the previous posts, I'm so confused about everyone's advice....

magnesium, vitamin D,l-glutamine and l-arginine,l-tyrosine, glutamine,l-taurine and epson salt baths......
Where do i get all these, when and how do I take them and for how long? PLEASE HELP!!??? ANYONE???

piercit

ISLANDGIRL wrote:

Hi all! After reading almost all the posts from beginning to end, I've come to the conclusion that my husband and I are pretty much screwed to say the least. I've been on oxy for almost 3 years. My husband has been taking them for about 1 1/2 years. We both started at 5mg 4x a day and now we're at 30mg 4x a day. I have gotten to the point of abusing my pills. Some days I'll take as much as 120mg in one shot! I'm trying to ween myself off by only taking 15mg but my lack of control and/or will power is preventing me to keep weening. I end up just say f&ch it and I'll take as much as I need to make those icky skin crawling feelings go away.
After reading most of the previous posts, I'm so confused about everyone's advice....
magnesium, vitamin D,l-glutamine and l-arginine,l-tyrosine, glutamine,l-taurine and epson salt baths......
Where do i get all these, when and how do I take them and for how long? PLEASE HELP!!??? ANYONE???

Hey quitting this chit is a biatch, and you have to get organized to start with. You should start a daily chart, of your uptake levels of the oxi.

Start at a certain level which does not make you Ill, say 45mgs would probably be right.

If you split the oxi into small 5mg pieces and take it spread out over a day, do this for a week, then you have a baseline and know you have enough willpower to quit on your own.

Start an uptake of magneisum, bought anywhere, Wal-mart is good, take 1250mgs a day.

If you can do this and work your taper down, to 30mgs by next week come back and I will help you further, but I cannot waste my time if you cannot make this one simple step, otherwise I suggest getting on subs...ok

Understand I do help people, I need to know you are committed and can go a week without getting high. My time is valuable to others..ok

Reply to me either way, so you do not waste my time here.

peace
piercit

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Don't feel that because you suffer from depression that you are a soft or bad person. I take lexapro an anti-d and klonopin for depression. Opiates definitely help you feel better TEMPORARILY. My suggestion for you is if you can ween off the vics and maybe you will need a bit longer than you think. I guess time will tell. GO to a psycho pharm doc and talk to him/her and tell them about your depression and you will get prescribed some sort of med to help you with that. If you are the type of person who doesn't want to sit on the shrinks coach an hour a week which I actually recommend that with the meds because the only way to get out of your depressed state is to get to the route of the issue or chances are you will be back getting high again then at least try to get on some mood stabalizers.
I wish you luck man.
HM

determinedhopeless wrote:

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Thanks. I am determined to go off cold turkey after the vicodin runs out in a couple days. I was taking the 10/325 6x daily, sometimes even more. And you are right, they REALLY helped with the depression issue. I just figure I will go back to my old unhappy self.
My profession allows me to be off work right now, so that's good. But I DO have a young boy and a younger pup who demand my attention. Above that, we are moving soon.
Any further suggestions from anyone would be very welcome!

“Jerked Chicken Anyone? ”

Joined: Dec 12, 2008

Comments: 3565

Peircit, I think the fact that this forum has different ideas(you are very informed about natural meds) to help and I know a little about depression and others that chip in with their advice is what can make this board so helpful for people. Don't just listen to one person. Most people here have been through what you have.
Peace
HM

piercit wrote:

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Yes, Good luck for sure...did you read thread 1940? I left this for you and wanted to make sure you noticed it in among the many posts here.
peace
piercit

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Joined: Dec 12, 2008

Comments: 3565

Piercit has helped many ween down. You should listen to him. You have to really want to quit or this stuff will ruin your life if you are abusing it. I would like to add to as to why you started abusing your pills and getting high. Do you have underlying issues such as anxiety and depression that taking a pill eliminates? Just something to think about.

Wish you the best,
HM

piercit wrote:

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Hey quitting this chit is a biatch, and you have to get organized to start with. You should start a daily chart, of your uptake levels of the oxi.
Start at a certain level which does not make you Ill, say 45mgs would probably be right.
If you split the oxi into small 5mg pieces and take it spread out over a day, do this for a week, then you have a baseline and know you have enough willpower to quit on your own.
Start an uptake of magneisum, bought anywhere, Wal-mart is good, take 1250mgs a day.
If you can do this and work your taper down, to 30mgs by next week come back and I will help you further, but I cannot waste my time if you cannot make this one simple step, otherwise I suggest getting on subs...ok
Understand I do help people, I need to know you are committed and can go a week without getting high. My time is valuable to others..ok
Reply to me either way, so you do not waste my time here.
peace
piercit

Porozmawiajmy

Joined: Dec 3, 2008

Comments: 1674

Informed Source wrote:

<quoted text>3am Power nap complete> I saw you had posted to me on Wed. but I didn't have time to get back to ya. Then Thursday morning I searched for that post and after 30min I gave up and just scrooled down till I saw your name and Poof There was the POST!.But, looking for your post I read all kinds of stuff, funny stuff,crazy stuff and mystic stuff!!! Alot of stuff.
Boo and Bee!! They are fun fun fun!! Thursday I was out playing with the dog and in between catching the frizbee and bring it back, she keeps going over to this big pompass grass and circling around it, and after awhile I thought maybe Bee had snuck out of the house and was down there in the grass, or maybe a baby bird, ya know? Sooo, I go over and the grass starts moving and meow meow meow out come kitty #3 hahahahah. So now on Friday morning we have Boo Bee and Kitty #3 Casper! He is solid Black LOL!!
On a sad note Oscar a cat we have had 8 years past away last week in a tragic accident. I had been home a few hours and had to run out for a bit. I saw Oscar was laying in the driveway sunning his bones when I was leaving and I went over and picked him up and carried over out of the way and set him down on this landscape wall. and I left took the dog with me.When I get back I pull in turn around like 10 million time befor,back up this little hill and at the very end I thaought I had run over the garden hose.
It was Oscars legs.

I am so sorry to here the story of what happened to Oscar...how sad, especially when you had him 8 yrs. A friend of mine accidentally ran over her...very old dog..he was sunning also, she couldn't see and well..the dog is no longer with us..OMG did she feel bad, as I'm sure you do. Don't be hard on yourself about it, sad accident.
Love Jeanette

ISLANDGIRL

piercit wrote:

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Hey quitting this chit is a biatch, and you have to get organized to start with. You should start a daily chart, of your uptake levels of the oxi.
Start at a certain level which does not make you Ill, say 45mgs would probably be right.
If you split the oxi into small 5mg pieces and take it spread out over a day, do this for a week, then you have a baseline and know you have enough willpower to quit on your own.
Start an uptake of magneisum, bought anywhere, Wal-mart is good, take 1250mgs a day.
If you can do this and work your taper down, to 30mgs by next week come back and I will help you further, but I cannot waste my time if you cannot make this one simple step, otherwise I suggest getting on subs...ok
Understand I do help people, I need to know you are committed and can go a week without getting high. My time is valuable to others..ok
Reply to me either way, so you do not waste my time here.
peace
piercit

I'm extremely serious about quitting! I NEED TO QUIT! Today is day 1 and I've only taken 15mg since 6am instead of my usual 60mg.....my skin is crawling and I have the chills already but the xanax is helping a bit. I know that in about another 2-3 hours, my skin is going to start that burning feeling!! I (somewhat) tried to quit before but I wasn't determined like I am now! My husband wants to get off this sh$t too!! I figure that the best way to do this is one of us at a time in case something bad happens....
I'm off to the store to get some magnesium and all the other things that were listed in prior posts....
I promise you, I'm not wasting your time!!! And thank you....

ISLANDGIRL

HitMe wrote:

Piercit has helped many ween down. You should listen to him. You have to really want to quit or this stuff will ruin your life if you are abusing it. I would like to add to as to why you started abusing your pills and getting high. Do you have underlying issues such as anxiety and depression that taking a pill eliminates? Just something to think about.
Wish you the best,
HM
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I have MANY issues from my childhood that have not been dealt with! The pain of my past is still very brutal for me! The problem is, I'm not even taking these pills to get high anymore...I take them so I don't detox! I have to admit though, when I take 90mg and a glass of wine...ya, I get high! I don't want to be high anymore nor do I want to have to maintain my addiction! I need to be free!

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Well sweety, listen to piercit and when you can get off the pills think about seeking therapy. It's the only way you will be free of not wanting to get high. Now you just need to learn not to get high if that makes sense.
Good luck
HM

ISLANDGIRL wrote:

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I have MANY issues from my childhood that have not been dealt with! The pain of my past is still very brutal for me! The problem is, I'm not even taking these pills to get high anymore...I take them so I don't detox! I have to admit though, when I take 90mg and a glass of wine...ya, I get high! I don't want to be high anymore nor do I want to have to maintain my addiction! I need to be free!

piercit

ISLANDGIRL wrote:

<quoted text>
I'm extremely serious about quitting! I NEED TO QUIT! Today is day 1 and I've only taken 15mg since 6am instead of my usual 60mg.....my skin is crawling and I have the chills already but the xanax is helping a bit. I know that in about another 2-3 hours, my skin is going to start that burning feeling!! I (somewhat) tried to quit before but I wasn't determined like I am now! My husband wants to get off this sh$t too!! I figure that the best way to do this is one of us at a time in case something bad happens....
I'm off to the store to get some magnesium and all the other things that were listed in prior posts....
I promise you, I'm not wasting your time!!! And thank you....

Ok sweetheart, you need to also find something to focus on, to pass the time, try not to listen so much to your physical self, there is no way to do this completely painless. Get out some books, focus on learing something, anything to distract you from feeling physical...ok

Upload the magnesium, take a couple of hot-baths with 1.5 cups of epsome salts, try to take one before bed.

Remember, epsome salts dry out your skin so you will nees a moisturizer, upload the L-glutamine if you are going to go the full route of supplements at this time...take the full 6000 mgs of glute per day, I can see you are going to need this to remain calm, be sure to take all your supplements with a full 12 oz. of water, there is a post here....thank piercit for all his help...reach me on that post at any time...I will answer you asap....ok

Get organized, a solid plan is needed, just like any other objective, this is important..ok, so start a daily log...ok

peace
piercit

determinedhopele ss

Wheeling, WV

HitMe wrote:

Piercit has helped many ween down. You should listen to him. You have to really want to quit or this stuff will ruin your life if you are abusing it. I would like to add to as to why you started abusing your pills and getting high. Do you have underlying issues such as anxiety and depression that taking a pill eliminates? Just something to think about.
Wish you the best,
HM
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I began using vicodin because of back pain, then moved up to percocet. My doc was all too willing to give me whatever I asked for. And, to be honest, I really liked getting high on them... so much so, I never wanted to ever stop taking them. I still feel that way. They took away the pain AND made me feel soooo good, too! Now, I feel horrible, hard to even get out of bed. I wonder if I will ever feel happy again.

piercit

HitMe wrote:

Peircit, I think the fact that this forum has different ideas(you are very informed about natural meds) to help and I know a little about depression and others that chip in with their advice is what can make this board so helpful for people. Don't just listen to one person. Most people here have been through what you have.
Peace
HM
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Andy, there is no way to quit opiates without some depression, however there are natural aminos that can overcome opiate fatique or the depression of quitting opiates.

However, if you are taking an ssri or tricylic anti-depressent then they confict with the aminos and this causes a bad reaction.

Andy have you ever googled aminos and opiates, there is a wealth of information there and I have been using these supplements over 5 years now and I continually, experiment and upgrade my knowledge on this subject.

We can all help, and you seem to have a great feel for the mental aspect of addiction.

So lets all lend a hand when we can, since we are around anyhow..ok

I have had a few peeps waste my time, but I am understanding as this is a hard nut to crack, but I am also convinced that the knowledge of aminos is there and NOT being used by the doctors and rehabs and the like because there is no money in it for them unless a patient relapase's...makes sense right?

peace
piercit

peace
piercit

piercit

ISLANDGIRL wrote:

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I have MANY issues from my childhood that have not been dealt with! The pain of my past is still very brutal for me! The problem is, I'm not even taking these pills to get high anymore...I take them so I don't detox! I have to admit though, when I take 90mg and a glass of wine...ya, I get high! I don't want to be high anymore nor do I want to have to maintain my addiction! I need to be free!

Ok baby, Andy and I will help you, we totally understand you, and now shift focus as we need to concentrate at this time to start to repair your bodys ability to make its own natural endorphines and raise the natural serotonin levels need to think clearly and rest properly.

Get organized!!.. start a daily log of all your suppliments and oxi intake,I cannot stress this enough, the supplements already listed here are a very good starting point with the upload of the following most important. Get distracted from your physical self as you need to learn to ignore every little pain...ok

Vit D...4000iu
Magnesium...1250mgs
l-glutamine...6000mgs
l.arginine...3000mgs
l-taurine...3000 mgs...this is harder to find and for the most part can only be purchased on the web or at a specialty VIT store..so wait on this and order it on the web as stores are 4Xthe price..ok

You will not need L-theanine untill you are mostly clean..ok

Empsome salt baths, one before bed...DO NOT take any Vit E when taking aminos, it will cut there effectiveness...ok

If you are taking a multiple make sure it contains no E and if not just get a multiple B-complex...ok

peace
piercit

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piercit

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