How can I self- detox from Oxycontin?

[GOLDIE]

lorijim wrote:

i was hopelessly addicted to oxycontin for 3 years and tried everything to quit. as far as i am concerned there is only one way. it is thru the healing power of Jesus Christ. its as simple as that. i gave my life to the Lord and asked Him to heal me and he did. sure, i went thru some tremendous pain for about 90 days but after that i was set free and have been completely clean for 3 years and am loving life. i never thoght life could be this good. i recommend finding a born again christian church such as a calvary chapel in your area, aproaching the pastor with your problem, and let the Lord do the rest. i was an atheist and thought christianity was a load of crap until i hit bottom and had no place to go. honestly, Jesus is real but you have to let him in to your life. he will leave you alone unless you invite Him in. He will not force himself upon anyone. i will pray for you. please listen to my advice. there is so much more to life than what you are experiencing now. god has a better plan for you, you just have to allow him to implement it.

Hi...I totally know Jesus is real too...I was born again many years ago...My husband who died of hep C complications was a minister and preached in the most drug infested areas...Neverthe less the lord brought us to a place to be in the shoes of people who use pain meds properly and people who do it to cover emotional pain...It was hard for us both as we became ill...Yet... had to be for US, to be humbled.Pride can keep one from growing in the Lord, from reaching a fullness in Christ.We must be ever so careful as Christians to not put where the Lord has us in our walk onto everyone else too.I appreciate your post tremendously, and so understand spiritually where you are, please know that, but we just must not put what God showed us onto someone for it may not be for them at this time in their walk. Look at Job.My husband after 16 years of street preaching got too sick to go anymore.We had people coming to our home judging and condeming us, when the lord spoke to us both that my husband was to stay home and minister to his immediate family.We had to listen to the guidance of the holy spirit in our lives...We lost people in our lives , yet, gained a most intimate relationship with the Lord.ThANK GOD WE HEARD THE LORD ON THIS FOR MY HUSBAND PASSED AWAY...But had prepared the journey and gave us intimate time together after many years of the Lords work...
I stayed in pain management following the docs orders to the tee...until i lost my health insurance and was weaned off...Not because "if one is a true Christian they should only need the lord" but i had to...therefore, i am trusting God with my pain, and having no quality to my life, other than who and what he brings to me from my bed.I have had many revelations from my bed, and this is where He may want me now for a time and a season.But i am more than open to be back in pain management and being able to go places again too.
I went off of oxicontin 10 months ago and felt awful ever since! The pain is worse than ever...I pray if i am to be able to be more physically active for the lord than God will be directing me to a pain Doctor who will help me again.
I just wanted to post this so people know they can come to the Lord and be on pain medication.You don't have to clean yourself up a certain way(God in you will do all that for u in His timing) to come to the lord.He meets you where you are at.And my experience with the Lord is, one will not want to abuse anything when they do come with a whole heart, to know who Jesus really is...Fruits of the spirit will just be developed, as more of 'self' dies and more of Jesus is able to be manifested in you...One can be a believer, walk with the lord and be on pain medication if need be.They just won't have the desire to abuse the power of pain medication!This truth will set one free of the desire to abuse anything!God bless you all here.

[ItsmeJules]

GOLDIE wrote:

<quoted text>Hi...I totally know Jesus is real too...I was born again many years ago...My husband who died of hep C complications was a minister and preached in the most drug infested areas...Neverthe less the lord brought us to a place to be in the shoes of people who use pain meds properly and people who do it to cover emotional pain...It was hard for us both as we became ill...Yet... had to be for US, to be humbled.Pride can keep one from growing in the Lord, from reaching a fullness in Christ.We must be ever so careful as Christians to not put where the Lord has us in our walk onto everyone else too.I appreciate your post tremendously, and so understand spiritually where you are, please know that, but we just must not put what God showed us onto someone for it may not be for them at this time in their walk. Look at Job.My husband after 16 years of street preaching got too sick to go anymore.We had people coming to our home judging and condeming us, when the lord spoke to us both that my husband was to stay home and minister to his immediate family.We had to listen to the guidance of the holy spirit in our lives...We lost people in our lives , yet, gained a most intimate relationship with the Lord.ThANK GOD WE HEARD THE LORD ON THIS FOR MY HUSBAND PASSED AWAY...But had prepared the journey and gave us intimate time together after many years of the Lords work...
I stayed in pain management following the docs orders to the tee...until i lost my health insurance and was weaned off...Not because "if one is a true Christian they should only need the lord" but i had to...therefore, i am trusting God with my pain, and having no quality to my life, other than who and what he brings to me from my bed.I have had many revelations from my bed, and this is where He may want me now for a time and a season.But i am more than open to be back in pain management and being able to go places again too.
I went off of oxicontin 10 months ago and felt awful ever since! The pain is worse than ever...I pray if i am to be able to be more physically active for the lord than God will be directing me to a pain Doctor who will help me again.
I just wanted to post this so people know they can come to the Lord and be on pain medication.You don't have to clean yourself up a certain way(God in you will do all that for u in His timing) to come to the lord.He meets you where you are at.And my experience with the Lord is, one will not want to abuse anything when they do come with a whole heart, to know who Jesus really is...Fruits of the spirit will just be developed, as more of 'self' dies and more of Jesus is able to be manifested in you...One can be a believer, walk with the lord and be on pain medication if need be.They just won't have the desire to abuse the power of pain medication!This truth will set one free of the desire to abuse anything!God bless you all here.

Just an FYI Goldie, Not everyone here is a Christian. It's great that you were able to find something spiritually to believe in while detoxing but not everyone wants to be preached to. There is an understanding among most people that the most heated of arguments have to do with the topics of religion and politics, it is best to keep both of those subjects to one's self unless amongst friends who have chosen to debate it with you. Thank you.

[Courtneey]

So if you turn to Jesus Christ to detox it takes 90 days and if you don't, it takes three months. I think that is what they are saying Jules. 3 months, 90 days, whatever. Either way it sucks, I'm sure.
By the way girlfriend, how are you looking? Are you happy with the results? Do you have pics before and after, on Facebook? I bet you look great!

[trouble]

Courtneey wrote:

So if you turn to Jesus Christ to detox it takes 90 days and if you don't, it takes three months. I think that is what they are saying Jules. 3 months, 90 days, whatever. Either way it sucks, I'm sure.
By the way girlfriend, how are you looking? Are you happy with the results? Do you have pics before and after, on Facebook? I bet you look great!

boob job? whatever it is im sure its a direct result of low self esteem. jenga!

[GOLDIE]

ItsmeJules wrote:

<quoted text>Just an FYI Goldie, Not everyone here is a Christian. It's great that you were able to find something spiritually to believe in while detoxing but not everyone wants to be preached to. There is an understanding among most people that the most heated of arguments have to do with the topics of religion and politics, it is best to keep both of those subjects to one's self unless amongst friends who have chosen to debate it with you. Thank you.

Yes I understand what you are saying...That was my concern too...That is why I responded to the post I did! I responded to a person who 'is' christian, and didn't want anyone who wasn't to be judged or condemned,offended, or if they are a Christian to go cold turkey and end up killing themselves...Thinking Jesus would do the withdrawal for them.
Sorry if i didn't explain myself well enough, but really was responding 'to a Christian', telling her in 'Christian terms' what could happen to someone reading the post I responded too...Hope I have cleared that up?

[ItsmeJules]

GOLDIE wrote:

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Yes I understand what you are saying...That was my concern too...That is why I responded to the post I did! I responded to a person who 'is' christian, and didn't want anyone who wasn't to be judged or condemned,offended, or if they are a Christian to go cold turkey and end up killing themselves...Thinking Jesus would do the withdrawal for them.
Sorry if i didn't explain myself well enough, but really was responding 'to a Christian', telling her in 'Christian terms' what could happen to someone reading the post I responded too...Hope I have cleared that up?

Goldie, My apologies then, I misunderstood who you were responding to. I mean I understood you were posting to the person in your response but it seemed like a general post, meaning to everyone. Good luck and stay clean.

Courtneey, There are some pics on there of the results. I am quite happy with it and would def do it again. I have some recent pics on there from my trip to SF and then if you look at the pics I put up right before I left, there are a couple up close pics. Check them out and tell me what you think. Prob a good idea to comment on FB rather than give this tool more info to analyze, since he has nothing better to do on a Friday night.

Trouble, My self esteem is just fine thank you. Not that I need to prove anything to you as$ wipe. It sounds to me that you may be the one with the self esteem issues. Go get a life and then maybe you can join in with the rest of us that do.

[SOPHIE713]

trouble wrote:

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boob job? whatever it is im sure its a direct result of low self esteem. jenga!

Low Self Esteem? Who are you talking about? Jules? She is beautiful inside and out..and doesn't have low self esteem.
Sophie

[dointhedirt]

MSara wrote:

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Doing the dirt,
Thank you for your concern for my well-being, but my health cannot be attributed to "luck" but to the accuracy of the information I provided.
I suppose you are going to tell me detoxing off of oxy is potentially deadly as well? I concede that benzo are slightly more dangerous, but only for people with a diagnosed or undiagnosed seizure disorder. In these cases, it is not the withdrawal that injures the patient, it is the seizure disorder that they didn't know they had or those unaware that a history of one seizure in their remote paste has lowered their seizure threshold making them far more susceptible for future seizures when the condition are right: such as removal of a chemical known to suppress seizure activity. When it comes to listing cause of death on a death certificate, withdrawal from benzos or opiates will never be listed as a primary cause of death. Seeing withdrawal as a secondary or even third mitigating factor would be excessively rare, and perhaps unheard of.
***When it comes to drugs, the lone exception being alcohol, the effects the drug has within the body is hundreds of times more dangerous than the effect the drug has when it is within your body no more.***
I continue to stand by my statement that withdrawal is generally as bad as you expect it to be. If you are so nervous about becoming sick and experiencing pain, I guarantee that you will be nauseated and vomiting on the first day despite the fact that true physical withdrawal does not commence until day 3 or 4. That is psychological withdrawal and the basis for my belief that the severity of your withdrawal, although it is not easy, can be almost completely within your control.

Your an idiot and have no idea what ur talking about. lamo no detoxing off oxys isnt deadly u only wish you were dead. Try reading some published medical studies i can provide quite a few. Detoxing off of benzo and alcohol is the same danger level depending how badly your addicted. Get some education and do some research before you mouth off. Why do you think they use phenobarbital to detox ppl off benzos as well as alcohol.

[SOPHIE713]

dointhedirt wrote:

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Your an idiot and have no idea what ur talking about. lamo no detoxing off oxys isnt deadly u only wish you were dead. Try reading some published medical studies i can provide quite a few. Detoxing off of benzo and alcohol is the same danger level depending how badly your addicted. Get some education and do some research before you mouth off. Why do you think they use phenobarbital to detox ppl off benzos as well as alcohol.

Doingthedirt: Look again at her post and how intelligently she has written it..so that it can be easily understood and with total accuracy..then reread your post again...calling her names...nasty and instulting instead of thanking her for good advise..OK now you can call me names...it's just so much easier to be nice..Sophie

[dointhedirt]

SOPHIE713 wrote:

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Doingthedirt: Look again at her post and how intelligently she has written it..so that it can be easily understood and with total accuracy..then reread your post again...calling her names...nasty and instulting instead of thanking her for good advise..OK now you can call me names...it's just so much easier to be nice..Sophie

Total accuracy???
This was her statement "true physical withdrawal does not commence until day 3 or 4" sorry physical witdraw off of 90% of opiates is over by day 5. Methadone being the only one that witdraw doesnt start for 48 to 72 hours. Depending on the drug, The amount and how often physcial withdraw can start as soon as 8 to 12 hours after the last dosage. Her advise wasnt good it was dangerous. Telling ppl its ok to self detox off benzos is irrespnsible. Im not saying that everyone who goes thru benzo withdrawl will have a seziure and die but ur odds are increased 10 fold why would you risk it. You can say what you want and believe what you want I have over 20 years of hands on experience 6 being an addict and 14 working in the addiction/rehab/detox field. If you wanna give advice thats fine but know what your talking and try not to give advice thats potential lethal. Your talking about death certificates not list it as the main cause of death so what if the withdrawl from benzos played any part whatso ever then it was a cause of death. " slightly more dangerous, but only for people with a diagnosed or undiagnosed seizure disorder. In these cases, it is not the withdrawal that injures the patient, it is the seizure disorder that they didn't know they had or those unaware that a history of one seizure in their remote paste has lowered their seizure threshold making them far more susceptible for future seizures when the condition are right" There are thosands of documented cases where ppl have had seizures 100% caused by benzo withdrawl never before or since having one. Your statement in itself states that benzoes can cause a seizure because the withdrawl causes the conditions to be right. And what if someone had an "undiagnosed seizure disorder" meaning they didnt know about it, and the benzo withdraw caused " The conditions to be right" and they read ur post saying its ok to detox off beznos without medical supervision and they seizure and die! Thats the point im making! Your right tho i was out of line and rude calling names and being disrespectful and childish and I apologize for that I truly mean that. I just found it to be irresponsible and dangerous. Im sorry for disrespecting you and I now believe you ment well but anyone that is potential physically addicted to benzos should seek medical attention and should not attempt to self detox. Why take the risk when your dealing with your life. Agin I am sorry pls forgive my rudeness.

[SOPHIE713]

dointhedirt wrote:

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Total accuracy???
This was her statement "true physical withdrawal does not commence until day 3 or 4" sorry physical witdraw off of 90% of opiates is over by day 5. Methadone being the only one that witdraw doesnt start for 48 to 72 hours. Depending on the drug, The amount and how often physcial withdraw can start as soon as 8 to 12 hours after the last dosage. Her advise wasnt good it was dangerous. Telling ppl its ok to self detox off benzos is irrespnsible. Im not saying that everyone who goes thru benzo withdrawl will have a seziure and die but ur odds are increased 10 fold why would you risk it. You can say what you want and believe what you want I have over 20 years of hands on experience 6 being an addict and 14 working in the addiction/rehab/detox field. If you wanna give advice thats fine but know what your talking and try not to give advice thats potential lethal. Your talking about death certificates not list it as the main cause of death so what if the withdrawl from benzos played any part whatso ever then it was a cause of death. " slightly more dangerous, but only for people with a diagnosed or undiagnosed seizure disorder. In these cases, it is not the withdrawal that injures the patient, it is the seizure disorder that they didn't know they had or those unaware that a history of one seizure in their remote paste has lowered their seizure threshold making them far more susceptible for future seizures when the condition are right" There are thosands of documented cases where ppl have had seizures 100% caused by benzo withdrawl never before or since having one. Your statement in itself states that benzoes can cause a seizure because the withdrawl causes the conditions to be right. And what if someone had an "undiagnosed seizure disorder" meaning they didnt know about it, and the benzo withdraw caused " The conditions to be right" and they read ur post saying its ok to detox off beznos without medical supervision and they seizure and die! Thats the point im making! Your right tho i was out of line and rude calling names and being disrespectful and childish and I apologize for that I truly mean that. I just found it to be irresponsible and dangerous. Im sorry for disrespecting you and I now believe you ment well but anyone that is potential physically addicted to benzos should seek medical attention and should not attempt to self detox. Why take the risk when your dealing with your life. Agin I am sorry pls forgive my rudeness.

What a very nice post and thank you. I don't know the first thing about any of the things you are talking about but I think it's important that you should be taken seriously. You sound like a very nice person and I will leave any information on this topic to you..I do like something you said and I agree totally whenever in doubt..and I quote.."Why take the risk when you're dealigh with your life!" It takes a lot of class to say I'm sorry...so I will say it back to you..if I was rude..I too am sorry...Warmly...Sophie

[ItsmeJules]

dointhedirt wrote:

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Your an idiot and have no idea what ur talking about. lamo no detoxing off oxys isnt deadly u only wish you were dead. Try reading some published medical studies i can provide quite a few. Detoxing off of benzo and alcohol is the same danger level depending how badly your addicted. Get some education and do some research before you mouth off. Why do you think they use phenobarbital to detox ppl off benzos as well as alcohol.

This horse has been beaten to death so many times here, it is just not relevant anymore. First of all I happen to know that Msara doesn't post anything unless she has thoroughly researched it first. Secondly, given her extensive medical background I will side with her every time. Thirdly, being an addict and counseling addicts does not an authority on the subject, make. There is absolutely no danger or risk in detoxing from Opiates, unless the addict has an underlying problem. Benzos can also be safely detoxed from without significant risk, unless the meds were treating a seizure disorder or the addict has an unknown seizure disorder.

Withdrawal from benzodiazepines "can be problematic" but is rarely life-threatening, notes the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA).

There have been so much controversy on this one topic but the truth of the matter is just because you feel like you may die or that you may want to die, you will not and now it has also been stated that Benzo detox can also fall within this category as well. Maybe you should know YOUR facts before coming on here and discounting one's information as bunk and touting yours as gospel.

[SOPHIE713]

ItsmeJules wrote:

<quoted text>This horse has been beaten to death so many times here, it is just not relevant anymore. First of all I happen to know that Msara doesn't post anything unless she has thoroughly researched it first. Secondly, given her extensive medical background I will side with her every time. Thirdly, being an addict and counseling addicts does not an authority on the subject, make. There is absolutely no danger or risk in detoxing from Opiates, unless the addict has an underlying problem. Benzos can also be safely detoxed from without significant risk, unless the meds were treating a seizure disorder or the addict has an unknown seizure disorder.
Withdrawal from benzodiazepines "can be problematic" but is rarely life-threatening, notes the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA).
There have been so much controversy on this one topic but the truth of the matter is just because you feel like you may die or that you may want to die, you will not and now it has also been stated that Benzo detox can also fall within this category as well. Maybe you should know YOUR facts before coming on here and discounting one's information as bunk and touting yours as gospel.

Well I'm not touching this one with a ten foot pole. Sara is brilliant for sure...as I said in my posts in this thread. But I do think that he is trying to be helpful and express his opinion on the subject...but as I keep saying I don't know one thing about any of this...except for myself taking prescription drugs I don't know anyone that takes the ones I take..and except for on this forum I don't tell anyone at all..not even my best friends.
I enjoyed your email and will be answering it soon. Having such problems with it..when I write an email and try to send it..it freezes up and my email is lost. Talk Soon..Sophie

[Robert Mitchell]

Busy Man wrote:

I take 200 mg Oxycontin daily following 2 lumbar surgeries and multiple other surgeries.
Been on Oxy for 11-years.
Is there a way I can detox at home without killing myself.
Never could come close in the past. Way too nasty.
Please let me know if you have been successful or know someone who has.

I detoxed from the same amount, symptoms are bad if you do it without anything, try to get some valium, or xanax from your doc to help with the symptoms. After 4-5 days you will feel 80% better.

[painaddik]

people who come here to seek help or information on how to quit shouldnt have to be stressed out by reading that they are going to die as written by soooo many mis-informed people who post that. its really irritating. what irks me the most about it is they sound so sure of their information, that anybody who doesnt know better, especially those who are trying/wanting to quit, might be scared into rethinking thier options.

YOU WILL NOT DIE IF YOU QUIT OPIATES OR BENZOS!!!
the only way it would be possible, like so many good people have said before, is IF you have an underlying health issue. colds, flus, backaches, toothaches, stubbed big toes dont count. it has to be a major health issue. it would have to be a cardiovascular or respitory(spelling?) condition that has already plagued someone.
for the people who wish to post this kind of false information in the future, please reseach your information before you post. your lack of information could possible cause someone to question their choice to change thier lives for the better. people who do wish to quit drugs come here to find out what thier in for. lets give them the best information and true information we can to give them a fighting chance.
sorry for the lenghty post. but when i made the choice to quit, i was scared enough. scared of change. scared of who i was and who i was gonna become. scared of a new life. those of you who havent been thru it wouldnt understand. if i had heard i was gonna die if i quit. i can tell you with all honesty, i wouldnt be here posting cuz i wouldnt have quit if i thought i would die. lets try not to have someone make that mistake of not quitting or at least give sobriety a chance. post ya later.

[SOPHIE713]

painaddik wrote:

people who come here to seek help or information on how to quit shouldnt have to be stressed out by reading that they are going to die as written by soooo many mis-informed people who post that. its really irritating. what irks me the most about it is they sound so sure of their information, that anybody who doesnt know better, especially those who are trying/wanting to quit, might be scared into rethinking thier options.
YOU WILL NOT DIE IF YOU QUIT OPIATES OR BENZOS!!!
the only way it would be possible, like so many good people have said before, is IF you have an underlying health issue. colds, flus, backaches, toothaches, stubbed big toes dont count. it has to be a major health issue. it would have to be a cardiovascular or respitory(spelling?) condition that has already plagued someone.
for the people who wish to post this kind of false information in the future, please reseach your information before you post. your lack of information could possible cause someone to question their choice to change thier lives for the better. people who do wish to quit drugs come here to find out what thier in for. lets give them the best information and true information we can to give them a fighting chance.
sorry for the lenghty post. but when i made the choice to quit, i was scared enough. scared of change. scared of who i was and who i was gonna become. scared of a new life. those of you who havent been thru it wouldnt understand. if i had heard i was gonna die if i quit. i can tell you with all honesty, i wouldnt be here posting cuz i wouldnt have quit if i thought i would die. lets try not to have someone make that mistake of not quitting or at least give sobriety a chance. post ya later.

Always such wonderful advise. Hugs..Sophie..p.s. we are still keeping your thread alive...maybe you should cut and paste this one and put it on there..

[ItsmeJules]

painaddik wrote:

people who come here to seek help or information on how to quit shouldnt have to be stressed out by reading that they are going to die as written by soooo many mis-informed people who post that. its really irritating. what irks me the most about it is they sound so sure of their information, that anybody who doesnt know better, especially those who are trying/wanting to quit, might be scared into rethinking thier options.
YOU WILL NOT DIE IF YOU QUIT OPIATES OR BENZOS!!!
the only way it would be possible, like so many good people have said before, is IF you have an underlying health issue. colds, flus, backaches, toothaches, stubbed big toes dont count. it has to be a major health issue. it would have to be a cardiovascular or respitory(spelling?) condition that has already plagued someone.
for the people who wish to post this kind of false information in the future, please reseach your information before you post. your lack of information could possible cause someone to question their choice to change thier lives for the better. people who do wish to quit drugs come here to find out what thier in for. lets give them the best information and true information we can to give them a fighting chance.
sorry for the lenghty post. but when i made the choice to quit, i was scared enough. scared of change. scared of who i was and who i was gonna become. scared of a new life. those of you who havent been thru it wouldnt understand. if i had heard i was gonna die if i quit. i can tell you with all honesty, i wouldnt be here posting cuz i wouldnt have quit if i thought i would die. lets try not to have someone make that mistake of not quitting or at least give sobriety a chance. post ya later.

Ahh, truer words have never been spoken. These are the exact reasons I post my rebuttals to those who say negative things about detoxing Cold Turkey. They don't realize the impact they may have on those who are wrestling with the decision to quit. Since this site is not moderated, there is a lot of bad or misinformation floating around this forum and you are right Painaddik, they seem so sure of themselves and because of that, can be quite convincing in their theories. The only way to combat these posts and way of thinking is to promptly correct them and try to relay relevant and accurate info to those people who may have been influenced by these misinformed posts. I have been here for a good long time and have seen posts like these take on a life of their own. The authors of these posts will fight tooth and nail in order to give their info validity. However, anyone who can Google will find this information to be false and if they read further they will see our posts correcting this information. You seem like a genuinely sincere person and I for one, am glad you are here fighting the good fight every day. I hope that you find a way to get your pain under control. Happy posting.

[mysticcherokee]

Excellent advice, Painadd! Courage is bein scared and doin the right thing anyway. Helps not to be scared, MUCH.Great courage, I think is havin all the stuff youve got goin on and posting helpful things here. Your Moms will be fine and shes lucky to have such a caring Son. shes in Hospital, and thats the best place. Dont worry, please, like Miss Kitty said(shes so very wise and good with anecdotes)creative "thinking" replaces worry and is worth the effort to rplace the negative. Make sense? Warm embrace for you, and wishes for happy thoughts coming yer way to crowd any bad ones out. yes, Im hurtin too, nuthin but a thang for me. Got my two mile walk in and Im taking 5htp for mood.Its not hurtin!I flit in and out, cause Im very flighty, Ill be round the corner if ya need another warm embrace:) Mystic

[ItsmeJules]

Highdose and Denise: I strongly recommend speaking with your respective docs about your situation. I know from personal experience that chronic pain and the need to treat this pain with strong pain meds is a depressing situation but you must have faith in your physicians. They will guide you down the right path and just because you want to decrease your meds, doesn't mean you will not have the opportunity to go back to the same dose. Many people do this all the time, it is called "resetting" one's tolerance and it does exactly that. It gives the pain patient the chance to see exactly where their pain is at, on a scale from 1-10 in relation to where it was when the patient first began pain med therapy. A lot of times patients don't realize because of all the meds they take, that pain needs have changed and maybe a dosage adjustment is in order. I think your doctors will respect the fact that you are trying to be proactive in your treatment. A good self advocate is always honest with their docs and will usually get the results they are looking for.

For instances or prolonged periods of depression, there are plenty of remedies. Most people who suffer from chronic pain, experience depression, they sort of go hand and hand. Many pain patients take a combination of pain meds and antidepressants to combat the depression AND pain. A common med prescribed is Cymbalta, it also can help with some types of pain but you would have to google it as I am not too sure of the pharmacological make up of that drug and exactly how it works on pain in the body. I do know that is helps the body produce chemicals in the brain that the body might not be manufacturing enough of and therefore resulting in a change in your moodor moods. Do some google searches of chronic pain and depression, see what you come up with and then take this info with you to your next doctor's appointment. I wish you luck my friends and hope that you both get the results you are looking for.

[khouse]

Kudos to Jules and painaddik. I have come off oxy 2-3 times and did it without serious w/d. I tapered under my doctor's care, and I've done it on my own. I had a couple rough days but got over it in a few days. The worst thing I have come off was methadone, with my doctor's help. He took me down too fast and I had some w/d that was worse than the oxy. On time I ran out of pills early thinking I had some by my bedstand and I did go through some serious w/d. Yes, it feels like you want to die. But, each day gets a little better, at least it did for me. I have been on oxy since it came out. My meds are for serious spinal degeneration. My neck is totally fused, so I suffer from some serious pain. Without oxy I can't get out of bed, from the pain. So I try to be very careful about not taking an extra pill because you end up having to take less after you have taken too many. I am using Ultram for break through pain and it is working. You will not die coming off-it will feel like it if you have not tapered. So if you use it for recreation (I have trouble understanding that)you have to taper down before you run out. Then don't take any more. Simple as that. I would not be taking it if I didn't have too. We have not found anything else that helps me as much as oxy and it makes me angry that recreational users are messing it up for the ones like me that realy need this drug.