How can I self- detox from Oxycontin?

[vik]

sorry email is [e-mail]

[ItsmeJules]

Zack66 wrote:

I couldn't sleep anyways and my mind was going a mile a minute, so I thought I would write down a few thoughts.
I said on my last post that I had been off the 40"s for about a month. I did some calculating in my head and realized that Sept.15 was more like a month and a half. I remember because I had to move that day, without meds. I have absolutely no idea how I made it through that day.
I read a lot of posts till the wee hours and am very encouraged. I see a lot of the same names, so I hope I'm not intruding or offending anyone.
You guys, I'm sure, all know that our addiction is tied with the people we hang out with, easy accesability. Anyone who's just found this site and need some answers, please ask these men and women who have fought the battle. I'm not pretending I'm out of the woods yet, but I can see the finish line.
I was living in town with my kids and moved out to the country so it wouldn't be as easy for me. I have no phone yet, and won't until I'm sure it's over. You know what I mean. I erased all the #'s of contacts I had, a few would even deliver out to where I live, and only family knows where I live. I don't have a car because I lost my privileges over a year ago with a DWI, or you in the U.S might call it DUI. I was barely over the limit but oh well. I haven't drank since.
IT'S TIME, TIME AND MORE TIME. A lot of sleep if you can, fluids and eat.
I also realized that everyone I hung out with was either a dealer or a runner, all I had to do was go to the sidewalk and call the kid over. Yes, I am ashamed.
I did a lot of shameful things. Not buy groceries because that would take my last $20. Steal from family and take take from my parent's script if I got desperate enough, and the only "friend" I have is my sister who has to come and pick me up when I need to go somewhere.
I have way too much time on my hands.
Take care and don't look back.

Zack, thanks for posting your story. It is an inspirational one that I think many can learn from. I commend you for stepping up and doing what needed to be done. I am sure it has been a long road and you have far yet to travel but most of the work is done and now you need just continue what you have been doing. Good luck to you in your battle to be clean and good for you for taking on the child rearing responsibilities when their Mommy decided to give up. Do it for your children and never look back. There are many here who can learn from you and your story, so keep posting and inspire someone else to quit.

[Zack66]

Thank You ItsmeJules

I was not doing so well today physically. No more wd but my hands are shaking so bad i can barely cut a cup of water in. Also, my jaw kept dropping while i was talking. really wierd like thwe jaw was unhooking and the muscles were giving out. i sure hope i haven't done permanent damage.

[ItsmeJules]

Zack66 wrote:

Thank You ItsmeJules
I was not doing so well today physically. No more wd but my hands are shaking so bad i can barely cut a cup of water in. Also, my jaw kept dropping while i was talking. really wierd like thwe jaw was unhooking and the muscles were giving out. i sure hope i haven't done permanent damage.

Do you have any other health issues aside from the headaches you spoke of? I would take a trip to see your Primary Doc just to get checked out.

[Zack66]

Thanks for caring.
i don't have anything else that hurts, basically from the neck up. i have horrible allergies and can barely breath through my nose right now. i still used to manage to snort as many as i could though:)
i don't have a doctor right now because i screwed that up by trying to help friends out and go in too early too often.
that doctor may not be here for long anyways. we had a major oxy and crack bust here a few weeks ago and he was the one prescribing most of the pills. i got out just in time because i know a few of the people caught.

[debgrace27]

painaddick, Hi Gerald,haven't heard from you in a few days so I wanted to make sure I'm doing this right! The mind of an addict can sure wander. I'll look to hear from you. I could still not be doing this right. Wrote you a long note yesterday and I don't even see it!
Deb

[debgrace27]

are you out there Gerald! I hope you are well. LOoking to hear from you!
Keep Looking Up ^

[debgrace27]

Painaddick, I can't seem to get a post to you! I sitll don't knoww what I'm doing wrong!
Deb

[MSara]

Advice4pain wrote:

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Aight time to put you to the test. If you can answer this I will ......um.....i dunno. Let Brian kiss you. Or admit your more knowledgeable in this area then I
can you tell me how much Oxycodone in Mg is equal to 300ng/ml or 100ng/ml or both
what is the conversion rate, that is one question NOBODY seems to be able to accurately answer.If you answer I will leave your threads alone so you can be with Brian.....j/k j/k relax.....

I answered your question in the "MSara and Brian" thread.

[vik]

if anybody needs some suboxone let me know i used mine to get off of pain killers and still have 110 pills left let me know

[vik]

i forgot my address it's [e-mail]

[mywurstnme]

I am not proud to say this but, unlike many of the previous posts, I was never prescribed Oxycontin for a medical necessity but to feed a debilitating addiction. I have jumped from OCs, to vics, to Norcos, to Heroine and back again for over 2 years and would give anything to stop but I can only get so far before the withdrawals drag me back under...please help me...

[EX methadone]

If you want to quit using, coming off of the vic/norcos will be easier, less painful than kicking OC or heroin. Stick with the hydrocodone only and come down to as low a dose as possible before stopping. Do not use high doses of vicodin. A tylenol overdose will destroy your liver and kill you.
But you must go all the way through the sickness before you will get well.

[Advice4pain]

MSara wrote:

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Doing the dirt,
Thank you for your concern for my well-being, but my health cannot be attributed to "luck" but to the accuracy of the information I provided.
I suppose you are going to tell me detoxing off of oxy is potentially deadly as well? I concede that benzo are slightly more dangerous, but only for people with a diagnosed or undiagnosed seizure disorder. In these cases, it is not the withdrawal that injures the patient, it is the seizure disorder that they didn't know they had or those unaware that a history of one seizure in their remote paste has lowered their seizure threshold making them far more susceptible for future seizures when the condition are right: such as removal of a chemical known to suppress seizure activity. When it comes to listing cause of death on a death certificate, withdrawal from benzos or opiates will never be listed as a primary cause of death. Seeing withdrawal as a secondary or even third mitigating factor would be excessively rare, and perhaps unheard of.
***When it comes to drugs, the lone exception being alcohol, the effects the drug has within the body is hundreds of times more dangerous than the effect the drug has when it is within your body no more.***
I continue to stand by my statement that withdrawal is generally as bad as you expect it to be. If you are so nervous about becoming sick and experiencing pain, I guarantee that you will be nauseated and vomiting on the first day despite the fact that true physical withdrawal does not commence until day 3 or 4. That is psychological withdrawal and the basis for my belief that the severity of your withdrawal, although it is not easy, can be almost completely within your control.

MSARA, I disagree respectfully strongly. Very strongly. I do agree that a certain portion is "within your head" because I have experienced this difference first hand. Like if you are going on vacation to a exotic place, or having something extremely exciting going on in your life, for that period of time, parts of w/d can be much less intense. However, it will come back full blown at night, and it is not because you are concentrating on it. It is more attributed to the sleep cycle....

I also disagree that with opioids specifically once we are tolerant and can handle the drugs effects that they are inherently dangerous to the organs or body. In fact no opioid is itself a danger to any organ unless taken in excess ....in which case the chief danger respiratory depression.

[Advice4pain]

MSara wrote:

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Doing the dirt,
Thank you for your concern for my well-being, but my health cannot be attributed to "luck" but to the accuracy of the information I provided.
I suppose you are going to tell me detoxing off of oxy is potentially deadly as well? I concede that benzo are slightly more dangerous, but only for people with a diagnosed or undiagnosed seizure disorder. In these cases, it is not the withdrawal that injures the patient, it is the seizure disorder that they didn't know they had or those unaware that a history of one seizure in their remote paste has lowered their seizure threshold making them far more susceptible for future seizures when the condition are right: such as removal of a chemical known to suppress seizure activity. When it comes to listing cause of death on a death certificate, withdrawal from benzos or opiates will never be listed as a primary cause of death. Seeing withdrawal as a secondary or even third mitigating factor would be excessively rare, and perhaps unheard of.
***When it comes to drugs, the lone exception being alcohol, the effects the drug has within the body is hundreds of times more dangerous than the effect the drug has when it is within your body no more.***
I continue to stand by my statement that withdrawal is generally as bad as you expect it to be. If you are so nervous about becoming sick and experiencing pain, I guarantee that you will be nauseated and vomiting on the first day despite the fact that true physical withdrawal does not commence until day 3 or 4. That is psychological withdrawal and the basis for my belief that the severity of your withdrawal, although it is not easy, can be almost completely within your control.

Also, I have to discredit the part where you say that 24 hours or even 39 hours for that matter isn't the begging of true w/d.

That above line of thinking is text book doctor crap. Many of them feel that this is true, like mine doc for example, the guy thinks that if he is switching someone from oxy to suboxone that they should wait three days....because they won't be w/d till then. WRONG

If you are on high therapeutic doses or around the clock strong Sch'II's like Oxycontin for chronic pain. And for people snorting or banging (its worse) the full blown hellish symptoms will hit in about 15 hours. Then b/t 24-48 the WORST starts and goes on...most people report this as I am sure you are aware. It all depends on the dose. I know people think that is not true and that w/d for somebody who is not used to it on vics are the same 100mg oxy. but no way......for people like us on chronic around the clock Sch II opioids, full w/d can be so bad that one can't walk, think speak or even use the bathroom properly. I had one time where my bodily functions where messing up......thats can happen with high fever.

Now of course, if you are on anything below 40mg a day,the worst will be rapid heart beats and heavy depression anxiety rather then ...super cold/hot flashes, high fever, no energy or movement. which is the worst

[Santa]

Advice4pain wrote:

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Also, I have to discredit the part where you say that 24 hours or even 39 hours for that matter isn't the begging of true w/d.
That above line of thinking is text book doctor crap. Many of them feel that this is true, like mine doc for example, the guy thinks that if he is switching someone from oxy to suboxone that they should wait three days....because they won't be w/d till then. WRONG
If you are on high therapeutic doses or around the clock strong Sch'II's like Oxycontin for chronic pain. And for people snorting or banging (its worse) the full blown hellish symptoms will hit in about 15 hours. Then b/t 24-48 the WORST starts and goes on...most people report this as I am sure you are aware. It all depends on the dose. I know people think that is not true and that w/d for somebody who is not used to it on vics are the same 100mg oxy. but no way......for people like us on chronic around the clock Sch II opioids, full w/d can be so bad that one can't walk, think speak or even use the bathroom properly. I had one time where my bodily functions where messing up......thats can happen with high fever.
Now of course, if you are on anything below 40mg a day,the worst will be rapid heart beats and heavy depression anxiety rather then ...super cold/hot flashes, high fever, no energy or movement. which is the worst

Oh Peter Breath, Oh Peter Breath,How we wish you would shut your Lips. Folks that was set to the song "Oh Christmas Tree" please sing along with me and we will drown out this Advise4Pain...LOL Ready? 1st Verse.....

[highdose]

I fell feet and landed on my tail bone on concrete while I was working. I shattered two vertebrae and crushed the disc inbetween. I went from no back pain to excrutiating pain in a matter of seconds. Steel rods were used to fuse my spine and I continued to work as a welder and then as a diesel mechanic. Through the years I had five more surgeries and now all but one of my lumbar vertebrae are fused. There is so much soft tissue damage and scar tissue from the surgeries, I am destined to be in pain from now on according to doctors. I started out on Lortab and soma for several years until I was sent to a pain management doctor. She prescribed 90 of the 20 mg oxycontin cr pills. She said this would probably not be enough but she had to start small and work up so I would not get toxic shock. Each month my dose would go up and each month I experienced a little more pain relief. It took a long time but as my tolerance increased I finally ended up taking 200 mg three times a day. I got to that point and it takes care of 99% of my pain every day. I held at this point and my tolerance has not increased for the past 5 or 6 years. In 2006 I developed a lung disease and I am required to take a lot of medication other that oxycontin now. I know that high doses of narcotics relax the respiratory system and I would like to reduce the amount of oxycontin I take to see if it has an effect on my breathing ability. I would like to know the correct way to reduce my dosage. I do not want to ask my doctor because I am afraid if I come down and can't handle the pain I will not have the option to go back to the dose I am on. If anyone can tell me how to do this without going through withdrawals I would greatly appreciate it. Thanx

[Tony Rodriguez]

Just do it slowly, say in increments of 10 mg. per dose. If, or when you are comfortable with that then come down another 10 per dose, etc.

[khouse]

Highdose, go back through and read this thread several pages back and you will find all kinds of suggestions and ways to do this. I promise you will find the info. it is already here.

[denise]

I am a cancer surviver in 2001 i had oral cancer a portion of my tongue was removed and reconstructed with tissue from my wrist. A portion of my jaw bone was removed as well and a metal clip was put there. I have been on oxycontin since then. I never have run out of my meds and always taked it as prescribed. I hate being on this medicine i feel like it is holding me back i am so depressed. I am also afraid that if i am able to detox will I be able to bear the pain? I still have pain even with the medication I wish I knew someone to talk to I need help. My life sucks and I dont think I can go on much longer living like this.