taking oxycodone after 4 small doses of subutex

[gabriella]

is it possible to take oxycodone after being given 4 small doses of sub 2mg?? The sub was given to me too soon by doc and i've been in FULL w'draw with no relief for about 12 hours now.
Can I take the oxy safely with no more ill effects???? HELP!

[DeviouS]

been tryin to find as much info as i can on this subutex.... and i know if you use opiates during or after taking it it will make you go into FULL withdrawal even worse than what youre goin thru now probably... you wont get high no matter how much oxy or meth or heroin you take, whatever opiate you use... so if you try to get high on something else while on this subutex (suboxone) shit then you will feel no euphoria and will feel ONLY negative effects and withdrawals, much much stronger than withdrawals alone. dont mix ANYTHING with the buprenorphine (subutex)

[kydrby4ever]

DeviouS wrote:

been tryin to find as much info as i can on this subutex.... and i know if you use opiates during or after taking it it will make you go into FULL withdrawal even worse than what youre goin thru now probably... you wont get high no matter how much oxy or meth or heroin you take, whatever opiate you use... so if you try to get high on something else while on this subutex (suboxone) shit then you will feel no euphoria and will feel ONLY negative effects and withdrawals, much much stronger than withdrawals alone. dont mix ANYTHING with the buprenorphine (subutex)

the only time you go into w/d is if on opiates when taking subs.... if your on subs and take opiates you just dont get the effects, you wont go into w/d ya just wasted a opiate thats all...you have to be in full w/d when beginning subs, my experiance is that its 18hrs after the last oxy intake... methadone is longer because it works a lot longer than oxy, so the delay(wait time) is delayed till full w/d then take the sub...

[kydrby4ever]

gabriella wrote:

is it possible to take oxycodone after being given 4 small doses of sub 2mg?? The sub was given to me too soon by doc and i've been in FULL w'draw with no relief for about 12 hours now.
Can I take the oxy safely with no more ill effects???? HELP!

wait it out, the sub will level off and work between 12-18hrs from ingestion point, if ya go straight to oxy, itll be 3 days b4 the oxy works again, the sub can be taken from here on out w/ no ill effects as long as you havent taken oxy, if ya did and it didnt work, and the subs are still working, and your not sick anymore(from early sub dose) you can continue w/ the subs w/ good effects...just wait till it wears off,starts wearing off...

[ABd45]

my experience was that you can take oxy about 1 and a half days after last sub dose and feel slight effects, it will take a few tries to knock the subs completly off the recepters. Even if its been 3 days your gonna have to take a little and see how u feel then the next time you dose the oxy it will hit you harder.....

[de_wash]

kydrby4ever wrote:

<quoted text> wait it out, the sub will level off and work between 12-18hrs from ingestion point, if ya go straight to oxy, itll be 3 days b4 the oxy works again, the sub can be taken from here on out w/ no ill effects as long as you havent taken oxy, if ya did and it didnt work, and the subs are still working, and your not sick anymore(from early sub dose) you can continue w/ the subs w/ good effects...just wait till it wears off,starts wearing off...

I don't think that is completely correct and I feel that it must differ from person to person. I have taken half of an 8mg suboxone at say 830 in the morning and at 9p.m that evening taken a 40mg oc and felt all the effects.

[opiatedoc]

de_wash wrote:

<quoted text> I don't think that is completely correct and I feel that it must differ from person to person. I have taken half of an 8mg suboxone at say 830 in the morning and at 9p.m that evening taken a 40mg oc and felt all the effects.

Why would you do such a silly thing? Subox is such a wonderful thing for opiate addiction-- in 'my day' one had to lose everything before getting better, if getting better ever happened... People messing with subox will eventually result in the loss of it as a treatment avenue. Get real, guys-- get clean or stay dirty, but at least pick one or the other! As for the guy getting sick on subox 'because of his doctor starting too early'-- as an opiate addict in recovery and treating physician, the only time that ever happens is when the addict ignores the advice of the doc and decides to use too late. Almost everyone who goes to the doc for subox already knows that they need to be clean for at least a day, preferably longer, and that they have to be in withdrawal. If you are withdrawing when you start the subox, you will be fine. If you cheat, you will be in total misery.

[IN PAIN and stuck too]

opiatedoc wrote:

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Why would you do such a silly thing? Subox is such a wonderful thing for opiate addiction-- in 'my day' one had to lose everything before getting better, if getting better ever happened... People messing with subox will eventually result in the loss of it as a treatment avenue. Get real, guys-- get clean or stay dirty, but at least pick one or the other! As for the guy getting sick on subox 'because of his doctor starting too early'-- as an opiate addict in recovery and treating physician, the only time that ever happens is when the addict ignores the advice of the doc and decides to use too late. Almost everyone who goes to the doc for subox already knows that they need to be clean for at least a day, preferably longer, and that they have to be in withdrawal. If you are withdrawing when you start the subox, you will be fine. If you cheat, you will be in total misery.

MONEY is a motive even sex thers tons of reasons why people do what they do and doctors give into temtation my first subox doctor wanted big up front fees and the had to see mee evey two weeks at a 100$ a pop and i went in just wanting a 21 day detox so after 4 months my dumb ass finally just gooled suboxen in my area and now i see him once evey 2 months and is very consider of my needs he gives me refills two months at a time

[Linda]

de_wash wrote:

<quoted text> I don't think that is completely correct and I feel that it must differ from person to person. I have taken half of an 8mg suboxone at say 830 in the morning and at 9p.m that evening taken a 40mg oc and felt all the effects.

I agree ts worked for me too, i just did it...

[jimmy]

can i get high on 1 mg of subutex? what happens if mixed wth valium

[kydrby4ever]

jimmy wrote:

can i get high on 1 mg of subutex? what happens if mixed wth valium

you will feel the effects of 1mg if your not already taking a higher dose, but valium/xanax is not a good mix w/ subs neither is alchohol so reconsider that thought... why would ya want to abuse(get high) on subs? there is no cure for that habit, nothing removes the w/d created by it!!!! opiates wont work, and there are no subs for subs, so why take it unless detoxing from opiates or depression issues?

[kydrby4ever]

jimmy wrote:

can i get high on 1 mg of subutex? what happens if mixed wth valium

just google france/europe and buprinorphine and youll see the addiction issues there plagued with

[stuck]

How long do I have to wait for this subutex bullshit to give me relief,2 days ago I spent 500 dollars on this bullshit,"to make withdraws pain free my ass",well let me tell you I;ve never been sicker in my life,and I sadly admit I'm an old school junkie,just keepen it real,this is horrible,I;ve taken like 4 of these fuckers and need to know,how long do I have to wait to take an oxy,anything??without putting a bullit in my head.

[stuck]

DeviouS wrote:

been tryin to find as much info as i can on this subutex.... and i know if you use opiates during or after taking it it will make you go into FULL withdrawal even worse than what youre goin thru now probably... you wont get high no matter how much oxy or meth or heroin you take, whatever opiate you use... so if you try to get high on something else while on this subutex (suboxone) shit then you will feel no euphoria and will feel ONLY negative effects and withdrawals, much much stronger than withdrawals alone. dont mix ANYTHING with the buprenorphine (subutex)

I too am the fool that decided to spend 500 dollars on that bullshit,that threw me into instant withdraw's coming down from80 mill.meth a day ,switched to4 80's of oxy a day,believing the lie of:'It's painless and your gonna feel just peachy,yeah,worst then any boy detox straight,3 days give or take,this has been by far the worst experience I;ve ever had,besides detoxing in dade county jail,dig?So what now??NO more of this subutex bullshit,I'll tell you that,and there lucky I cant even walk to my ride because the way I look,they had me a refund hands up.Question is what the hell can I do till then?Help.

[kydrby4ever]

stuck wrote:

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I too am the fool that decided to spend 500 dollars on that bullshit,that threw me into instant withdraw's coming down from80 mill.meth a day ,switched to4 80's of oxy a day,believing the lie of:'It's painless and your gonna feel just peachy,yeah,worst then any boy detox straight,3 days give or take,this has been by far the worst experience I;ve ever had,besides detoxing in dade county jail,dig?So what now??NO more of this subutex bullshit,I'll tell you that,and there lucky I cant even walk to my ride because the way I look,they had me a refund hands up.Question is what the hell can I do till then?Help.

1st off.... subutex doesnt work on methadone w/d as far as oxy w/d goes, you need to be in full w/d and then take it, as far as feeling normal goes, if your oxy dose was 250mg or less a day youll be fine by day 2 if its way up there (the dose) of oxy your used to then it will be 48hrs before your ok.... some people have stated adverse effects from subs (that they do not work) but most do well on them, as long as your w/d when you 1st take it.... as for the comment about full w/d from adding opiates, its not true, if your on subs and take opiates they wont work!!! if your on opiates and take subs youll go into full w/d.... if there not working by day two, take oxy for relief... you wont get high, but the illness will go away.... if your habit was methadone, then subs wont help you.... they dont remove methadone w/d, unless its a tiny dose 30mg or less daily...

[stuck]

kydrby4ever wrote:

<quoted text>1st off.... subutex doesnt work on methadone w/d as far as oxy w/d goes, you need to be in full w/d and then take it, as far as feeling normal goes, if your oxy dose was 250mg or less a day youll be fine by day 2 if its way up there (the dose) of oxy your used to then it will be 48hrs before your ok.... some people have stated adverse effects from subs (that they do not work) but most do well on them, as long as your w/d when you 1st take it.... as for the comment about full w/d from adding opiates, its not true, if your on subs and take opiates they wont work!!! if your on opiates and take subs youll go into full w/d.... if there not working by day two, take oxy for relief... you wont get high, but the illness will go away.... if your habit was methadone, then subs wont help you.... they dont remove methadone w/d, unless its a tiny dose 30mg or less daily...

Dude,I went back to this docter today,told him I'd sue the living shit out of them and they gave me half my cash back,but listen,can I take 2 roxy's now and will it make me sick??Or like Alot,and and get some relief?Or is it gonna blow me into the next fucken century,like hell maybe,dont wanna be any bsicker then I am ,HELP

[kydrby4ever]

stuck wrote:

<quoted text>Dude,I went back to this docter today,told him I'd sue the living shit out of them and they gave me half my cash back,but listen,can I take 2 roxy's now and will it make me sick??Or like Alot,and and get some relief?Or is it gonna blow me into the next fucken century,like hell maybe,dont wanna be any bsicker then I am ,HELP

you wont w/d like some peeps say, its only gonna add to the subs effects, so you wont get high but it will give mild opiate effects, thats it... eight five six five four eight one palm beach area code.... ill explain by phone.... call me...Marc

[stuck]

DeviouS wrote:

been tryin to find as much info as i can on this subutex.... and i know if you use opiates during or after taking it it will make you go into FULL withdrawal even worse than what youre goin thru now probably... you wont get high no matter how much oxy or meth or heroin you take, whatever opiate you use... so if you try to get high on something else while on this subutex (suboxone) shit then you will feel no euphoria and will feel ONLY negative effects and withdrawals, much much stronger than withdrawals alone. dont mix ANYTHING with the buprenorphine (subutex)

Look I'm the fool that regretably did the same thing,coming off of 80 mill of meth,switched to oxys {4 80s a day 4 a week,doc feeds me that shit with me thinking its gonna be like candy to a child"yeah-no more pain"Well let me tell you I almost died,4-real,so 2 days later when I could actually WALK,i took a chance and drove myself right back to this PAINLESS DETOX ,and they tell me 1 out of every 1000 people have a reverse reaction to that shit,send me home with 10 clonazepam,whitch I hate,and hand me half my mony back,send me on my merry way!!!So all i wanna know is,how the hell can I feel just an inch better without a bullit in my head.help

[stuck]

kydrby4ever wrote:

<quoted text>you wont w/d like some peeps say, its only gonna add to the subs effects, so you wont get high but it will give mild opiate effects, thats it... eight five six five four eight one palm beach area code.... ill explain by phone.... call me...Marc

DUDE,wrong number

[kydrby4ever]

stuck wrote:

<quoted text>DUDE,wrong number

its my # trust me i know it!!! dial the area code 561 1st lol its right...