Methadone withdrawal- mental and physical problems

[al D]

Just wondering if anyone know about these brain warp feelings like voosh every so often, ,cause im guessing it's my bloodpressure.

[dougie d]

hey people well how is everyone .... my doctor is alive ,,,,, games games people play .... anyway i droped 1 mg of methadon about 2 hrs ago ,,, so far so good ,,,,,, i am at 15 mgs now ,,,,,i have been at 16 mgs for 6 months ,,,, so it is time .....abc how r u ?,,,,,,if i dont feel any serious ... pain in my legs or my crazy brain .... then a b c ,, i will c my doctor and go down maybe 2 mgs ,,,, and keep it going ,,,, until i am free from this CRAP ,,,

[dougie d]

al D wrote:

Just wondering if anyone know about these brain warp feelings like voosh every so often,,cause im guessing it's my bloodpressure.

hey man i get VOOSH about every 2 weeks ,,,the VOOSH ...will go away ,,,,,,, on its own

[yuckin]

@ al D ,,,,Im not familiar with the VOOSH yet, and I dont think I want to be. can we get a little bit more of a description ? Im worried i might get vooshed and not know I was vooshed, or maybe not get vooshed at all and missed out on something, Hahhaaaaa ,,,, Im sorry to make light of the problem you are having, it does sound like a blood pressure issue, maybe like a head rush? Dizziness? please have your BP checked. Are you taking any meds for blood pressure? I do get woozy when I stand up , but I know its from my BP med, Clonidine. Day 41 and I feel ok. Pain is there but tolerable. I am going to go ride Motocross Tomorrow and I have not ridden in months. I will take it easy , nothing crazy. I hope everyone has a great labor day weekend, hang in there peeps ! Yuckin/Paul

[The Scum-Man]

sykadelik wrote:

Hi, I just got off methadone last weekend. I got off at 6mg's. I had pretty hard withdrawal symptoms even going down just 1mg at a time. Since I completely got off, I have been through hell. I got extreme anxiety, followed by a very deep depression. Nothing bad is going on in my life to cause me to be depressed. I could barely go to school or concentrate. THank god I have next week off! This morning I was extremely depressed. I started sweating again today at school, and I have had diarrhea all week. I am very weak and tired. When I was going down I didn't sleep much for a few months. Is it normal to be feeling depressed, anxious, and tired? If so, how long is this going to take to go away?? I feel like I'm in hell in my head half the time..makes me feel like I'm going crazy!

Ewwww, you disgusting scum ! We don't need to hear about your liquid fudge !! Do yourself a favor and stick your head in your toilet, flush and drown yourself !! There is no hope for you, scum !!!

[Sleepy Orange]

al D wrote:

Just wondering if anyone know about these brain warp feelings like voosh every so often,,cause im guessing it's my bloodpressure.

al-D

When ya experiencing it??? Does it feel like getting dizzy?? When you stand up or change positions?????
If so, it's orthostatic Hypotension....just means your BP has a quick drop and then after a sec it retunra to normal. I had that for about a month after detox. It helps to dangle legs before standing and to stand slowly so ya don't hit the deck. Hang in there!

[Sleepy Orange]

The Scum-Man wrote:

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Ewwww, you disgusting scum ! We don't need to hear about your liquid fudge !! Do yourself a favor and stick your head in your toilet, flush and drown yourself !! There is no hope for you, scum !!!

Your name certainly fits you!!! GO AWAY Scum-bag!

[Sleepy Orange]

Zacehs wrote:

Deyoxing cold turkey, was on 120mg to nothing, been 12 days now, my question is? Can it cause double vision, I usually wear contacts, but can't cause of my double vision, so I have to wear my glasses. If so how long does it last?

Zacehs

Not sure about the double vision but I got this sensation that my eyes were shaking a little and occasionally my visin would get blurry for a sec and I would have to close and open my eyes to shake it off. Hang in there!!!

[al D]

Day 16/17....feeling ok.normal w/o immodium. Yesterday my nextdoor neighbor almost Burnt his house down! So my house filled with smoke then it was like that movie "Gangs of N.Y.",I was waitin for the bowry boys or the dead rabbits to come running around the corner!!!! Those restoration guys are very pushy ,like thugs ,the one guy acted like he wanted to fight me! This isn't the first time. When my heater broke and we called fire dept b/4 we knew what it was, 3 of them walked in my house w/o asking and were fistfighting across st. Anyway I don't need the stress! I got 2hrs.sleep and have to deal with insurance co.and smoke damage through house! I won't have time to even think about withdrawal will I? I'm sure the Voosh is exactly whats been said blood pressure.I don't understand why those guys had to be soo pushy cause if they hadn't I never would have spoke to them "or' treated them like I did. Oh well how were they supposed to know i was a loose cannon? I remain in guarded condition and will try to think b/4 I act.just feeling tired.thank you all even the ignorant one. There are always gonna be haters,,and they are the ones we realy need to pray for.carma.withdrawal comes with many different situations day to day. Keep it simple n God bless.

[Hard]

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[dougie d]

first things first yes i made the last 24 hrs... no problem .... i went down 1 mg ,,, yes 1 mg of methadon yesterday ... i was at 16 mgs for about 7 months ,,,, i got to tell you... nothing ,,, but nothing happened,,,, no leg cramps ,,, soreness in my bones ... nothing ,,, all in my head,,, man ,, the last time i withdrawled from 17 mgs,,, my fucking mind played games ,,, paronia ,,, sore legs ,, cramps... u know the feelings iam talking about ,,,,,i guess when u r ready ,,, than go for it ,,,,so today i am at 15 mgs of this stuff ,,,, my next visit to my doctor ,,,, i now should go down 2 mgs at a time ,,,, a friend of mine said that i should take it 1 mg at a time ,,,,,to tell u the truth .... the faster i get off this stuff the better ,,, than i would be completey ,,, clean and sober ,,, by the way .... i celebrated 3 long long long years of staying clean and sober ,,, august 4 2012 ,,,,, it has been worth every fucking minute of it ,,,,,,voosh voosh dougie d

[Grvtgvtgv]

Rf rfc

[al D]

Day 18,"VOOSH" super fast head rush only lasting about 1-2 seconds. Im sure Sleepy O hit the nail rite on the head. Thank you all cause this forum has done more for me than any meeting. I'd go raise my hand and it would be so clicky! Click?,group of friends that are centered around themselves! So i wouldn't get called on, carry whatever i came with back home with me instead of dump it"mental shit"there! N relapse. I cannot believe how I'm feeling, thinking, etc.all due to all natural c/t and bennadryl for sleep.i got 7hrs. Up a couple times but 7hrs.and no cigarette burn holes on my sheets like when on m!!!!! I even forgot to take my ben last night n still fell asleep. Exercise definitely helping but always very tired one day after so no daily exercise yet.eating rite has seemed like an essential part of it all and when i missed a meal my body reacted badly. Music:super awesome n helping me thru.my pupils are big again and I feel so much more alive. Not making meetings but with my increased blood flow the other M n M are helping me very much. I feel blessed and am realizing i am capable of sooo much more and have sooo much to offer in this life. Take care n Love Yourself! Peace

[Whass up]

Day 6 of a 8 yr 120 140 mg day use not feeling well at all here's the twist have only one more day and can fill my script at a cross road in life here but da mm I feel bad

[yuckin]

Whass up wrote:

Day 6 of a 8 yr 120 140 mg day use not feeling well at all here's the twist have only one more day and can fill my script at a cross road in life here but da mm I feel bad

Hey Whass up. If you really want to finally be free. My advice is , fill the scrip and give it to someone you trust. someone with internet access that will also get on this site and use it as a tool to help you taper off. Hopefully you have someone that is willing , I know as an addict we cant be trusted very often, especially when it comes to our drug use. There are good tools for you to use to trick your body into allowing you to get off this drug in a much easier fashion. The taper program is not overnight and may take quite a long time to complete, But I believe it is the most successful method and will lead to less relapse because its easier on your body and Psyche.It will slowly release you and you will have time to adjust to lower doses in a gradual manner. Find yourself someone to hold your meds/to dispense them as needed if you cant do it yourself. and stay here with us throughout. We are here to help. Im sure many people will be posting their advice to you also. Listen to ABC and RX, Sleepy Orange . they know their shit when it comes to methadone detox. Good luck and God bless you on this new road towards your future. Its a good future, but its up to you.

[Whass up]

Thank you for being so kind. Guess need that am a 54 male was smashed in a industrial accident 12 yr ago I have a wonderful doctor who understands I have to work and this is the pain mess we ended with I have been on all. But again thank all of you for being strong and hurting but doing it I salute you. Any over the counter items. Will help. Tks

yuckin wrote:

<quoted text> Hey Whass up. If you really want to finally be free. My advice is , fill the scrip and give it to someone you trust. someone with internet access that will also get on this site and use it as a tool to help you taper off. Hopefully you have someone that is willing , I know as an addict we cant be trusted very often, especially when it comes to our drug use. There are good tools for you to use to trick your body into allowing you to get off this drug in a much easier fashion. The taper program is not overnight and may take quite a long time to complete, But I believe it is the most successful method and will lead to less relapse because its easier on your body and Psyche.It will slowly release you and you will have time to adjust to lower doses in a gradual manner. Find yourself someone to hold your meds/to dispense them as needed if you cant do it yourself. and stay here with us throughout. We are here to help. Im sure many people will be posting their advice to you also. Listen to ABC and RX, Sleepy Orange . they know their shit when it comes to methadone detox. Good luck and God bless you on this new road towards your future. Its a good future, but its up to you.

[ABC 52]

Whass up wrote:

Day 6 of a 8 yr 120 140 mg day use not feeling well at all here's the twist have only one more day and can fill my script at a cross road in life here but da mm I feel bad

Methadone can't be written like some other meds, for instance, "take two 2 pills every 4 to 6 hrs as needed for pain." The doc can write for a second med, though, for use during "breakthrough pain." If that might solve the issue of taking more than prescribed, you should talk with him about it. Going through withdrawal every month is real BI***! Methadone is some powerful stuff and it's also possible you can get by on less than you think. If you're using extra to get high, then you might have a few left at the END of the month instead of running out early.

The only other solution would be like Yukin suggested, have someone dole them out and do your best to bear it when times are tougher.

Good luck, AB

[JVG]

I'm almost a month methadone free...

the past few days have been great! I feel almost my normal self again I haven't had to take immodium for the past few days which is a relief ...I still get goose bumps/heebee jeebees though some points of the day but it don't last long.. I've been sleeping ok too.

My energy levels are normal again the past few days I haven't been up and down which is awesome.

That was really annoying to deal with...I've been drinking lots of gaterade and eating bananas...cut out the multi vitamins with iron in it = my stomach is feeling a hell of alot better!

I think it's starting to finally go away...I basically laid around sick for a month.If I had a job or kids during this I don't think I could have done it ...so I have massive respect for people that do.I understand not everyone can just quit Methadone cuz of different aspects of your life..but seriously for me it was worth doing it! really hard but worth it.I feel good that I don't have to be a slave to the drug anymore..That's how I felt on it and everyone is different it helps some people ...some people need to be on it...It did take me off of pills and junk and I'm thankful for that but it became an even bigger problem once I got on Methadone I was jacked up on a high dose double dosing at first..buying it off my friends while I was getting a script for it too..I basically subbed one addiction for another then my friend OD'ed from double dosing and almost died and then I came to realize what I was doing I was playing with fire..the whole point of me getting off the shit in the first place was because I was out of control and probably end up like my father,uncle and friends that died from this shit..so ya I cut out the double dosing and started to come down from my high dose it took a long time but I had my Doctor in my ear saying you need to stay on this..if you quit this too quickly you will relapse and blah blah blah he just wanted to keep me on it would only let me come down 5 mgs at a time so like i said a long time it took for me to get down to the dose I finally quit at.. I had full carries and I had a talk with my GF and said I'm just going to let him know that I'm quitting.. just went in to his office and told him the deal he gave me the same shit oh you're gonna relapse you won't be able to last you're going to lose your carry doses and start over again ..I said no I won't!!! I made a promise to myself no matter how hard or tough it was I would not give in to it..I was ready to take whatever came with it..I'm turning 28 in 3 days so I could put my body through it I knew it wasn't going to be easy like I've said before I've failed in the past trying to quit but this time no chance in hell!! I'm telling people this cuz ..if you really want to stop you can do it. just be willing to take whatever comes with it..I have every excuse in the world to use but I just had enough of it all and I want to have a somewhat normal life again and not have to hide the fact that I'm on methadone or that i was a pill head/junkie...I just became fed up with the BS that comes with it all.I won't ever go back to it I remember what the month of hell felt like and the previous times i tried to stop and all the places this shit has taken me and how basically my life was put on hold because of it...I'm not wasting the pain I went through for nothing.So in the end it's worth it to me to stop it and not be a prisoner to it anymore...I feel free again.

Rant over... sorry for the wall of text LOL

Have a good day/night people...hope everyone gets through what they are going through.

[ABC 52]

JVG wrote:

I'm almost a month methadone free...
the past few days have been great! I feel almost my normal self again I haven't had to take immodium for the past few days which is a relief ...I still get goose bumps/heebee jeebees though some points of the day but it don't last long.. I've been sleeping ok too.
My energy levels are normal again the past few days I haven't been up and down which is awesome.

...d I had a talk with my GF and said I'm just going to let him know that I'm quitting.. just went in to his office and told him the deal he gave me the same shit oh you're gonna relapse you won't be able to last you're going to lose your carry doses and start over again ..I said no I won't!!! I made a promise to myself no matter how hard or tough it was I would not give in to it..I was ready to take whatever came with it..I'm turning 28 in 3 days so I could put my body through it I knew it wasn't going to be easy like I've said before I've failed in the past trying to quit but this time no chance in hell!! I'm telling people this cuz ..if you really want to stop you can do it. just be willing to take whatever comes with it..I have every excuse in the world to use but I just had enough of it all and I want to have a somewhat normal life again and not have to hide the fact that I'm on methadone or that i was a pill head/junkie...I just became fed up with the BS that comes with it all.I won't ever go back to it I remember what the month of hell felt like and the previous times i tried to stop and all the places this shit has taken me and how basically my life was put on hold because of it...I'm not wasting the pain I went through for nothing.So in the end it's worth it to me to stop it and not be a prisoner to it anymore...I feel free again.
Rant over... sorry for the wall of text LOL
Have a good day/night people...hope everyone gets through what they are going through.

Hey JV, Glad to hear you're doing so well now. It's hard and lengthy getting through!!

It's sounds to me like you're doc new what he was talking about, JV. It's definitely the professional point of view, and there's wisdom in it. The stats will back up that relapse is higher from CT than from tapering. Tapering is usually a lot easier on the body and mind too. It's not about keeping people on it, although, with some clinic's here in the states there's a big question mark with that. Doc's that do know something about it are just trying not to hurt their patients.

I know folks will like hearing how your doing. Testimonials are inspiring, ya know:)

Be well, AB

[JVG]

Hi AB Thank you very appreciated...

I'm sorry to anyone reading if that came of somewhat depressing and I don't look down on anyone or judge people on pills or meth.. everyone and every situation is different.

but for me Methadone etc became a huge problem for me so I'm speaking for me and some of the problems it caused for me and some of the reasons why I wanted to stop and the drive was behind it I just wanted to make that clear.

Ya My Doctor was probably giving me the right advice but I'd been on for like 6 or 7 years straight on the program Anytime I brought up wanting to come off he'd be very negative about it.

and basically scare the shit out of me from wanting to stop it

with the your not going to last etc You shouldn't say things like that you should hear the person out and if they are pretty adamant about wanting to stop you should be supportive about it.

Ya it's a business they get paid pretty good...I know not having me on the program isn't going to stop their cash or make a huge difference but the difference being made is the fact that I don't want to have to be a slave to their system since in life in general I was basically born to be a slave to another.

like i said I'm speaking for me this isn't directed towards anyone I'm talking about my situation I was sick of going to that clinic every week!!! used to be everyday..waiting in a huge line people looking and laughing as they walk by...watching drug deals while im waiting in line to get my take home doses the staff treat you like you're an absolute scum bag because you're on methadone... they treat you like shit because they can and if you say anything they just threaten to cut you off from that clinic...and there is one more in this city and it's pretty far from me so I have to eat shit pies from them and like it....I was given the wrong doses a few times twice actually one time was I got someone elses take home doses that were lower then mine and another time I got someone elses drink that was 3 times the amount then I was taking and had to go to the hospital....

that's some of the irresponsiblity from them and the fact they treat you like crap for no reason is another easy decision making process for me wanting not to go back there.

like i said if I was on a higher dose it would have been a lot harder to stop it CT...ya it was very hard to go through and probably easy to taper but my doctor like i said would only drop me 5 mgs at a time then once i got to 10 then he wanted to go 1 mg at a time I would see him once a month so it would have taken me like another 10 months to stop and I don't have that much time because other things in my life are more important then being on methadone..so for me a month of hell was worth it.I would have been feeling WD's anyways in the end a lot more milder but still I would have felt them anyways so why not get over with now instead of almost a year from now.I was only allowed to travel for two weeks at a time he would not write me scripts for anything more then that..like I said I have a GF that lives in the US so that was a conflict for me.

I will say I didn't think the WD's would last as long as they did that was a surprise considering a came off such a low dose.

but like i said in the end for me it was worth it.

ABC 52 wrote:

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Hey JV, Glad to hear you're doing so well now. It's hard and lengthy getting through!!
It's sounds to me like you're doc new what he was talking about, JV. It's definitely the professional point of view, and there's wisdom in it. The stats will back up that relapse is higher from CT than from tapering. Tapering is usually a lot easier on the body and mind too. It's not about keeping people on it, although, with some clinic's here in the states there's a big question mark with that. Doc's that do know something about it are just trying not to hurt their patients.
I know folks will like hearing how your doing. Testimonials are inspiring, ya know:)
Be well, AB