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[Alan Cummings]

Honorably Discharged wrote:

To the California fan of GWBush. It would be a downright disgrace for any newspaper to publish a picture of Bush, an AWOL deserter in time of war, at any National Memorial Cemetery. It was terrible that he was allowed to lay a wreath at Arlington while serving as the appointed head of state. Clinton's military service record was not much better, but at least he served us well as Commander in Chief. Bush failed at that too.

I agree 100%. Bush is a coward and a disgrace to this country. How ANYONE in his or her right mind could think nothing but the negative towards that piece of trash is beyond me. So Clinton may not have served in the military, but I guess those morons constantly trashing him have never heard of a college deferment. I guess they forgot that Clinton won the Rhodes Scholarship

[Alan Cummings]

Glen wrote:

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Well this is a crock, since GW was discharged 15 years before his father became President.

"Honorably Discharged" never said that his father got him off from being sent to military prison. He just happened to get him admitted to(and probably paid for his graduation)from Yale. That brainless cretin would still be in pre-school if not for his families money and power. Your moronic posting just proves you're a stupid ass.

[Alan Cummings]

Glen wrote:

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Yeah, I think you do hate the man, maybe a little jealous of him and what he has. He is a heck of a lot more admirable than your boy in the WH now that is surrounded by far left radicals, be they Socialists, Communist, trying to put his agenda out there to totally take over all of our rights. He hates the Constitution and wants to change it. Why, it has worked so far.
He has said over and over, judge me by the people around me and I have. He is a bonified idiot and he hates America.
He is constantly in campaign mode and can't even make a sincere speach after the attack in Texas, until he speaks for almost 3 minutes and does a yahoo out to the crowd, then, as an after thought, he makes the stupid statement he did. Yeah, your guy is a real admirable guy.
He hates America and bows and panders to the Muslims. Our President, no matter who he is, should bow to no one.
He had plenty to say about the war while running for office and now can't make an intelligent decision as to what to do. He is the one you should be **** at, considering the danger he is putting our troops in. It is time he poops or gets off the pot.

I have yet to see more asinine drivel. Why in God's name would he(or any halfway decent person)be jealous of that piece of excrement? So he may have been President. He's also a liar, a draft dodger, a coward, more than likely a VERY dishonest businessman, and on and on. I can't think of one single good thing about him. I(and tens of millions of other decent Americans)really wish that his mother had miscarried when she was pregnant with him. Then this country would have been spared eight years of total agony if he had never been born.

[Glen]

Bullshot Crummond wrote:

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Turning this around on me isn't the point, now is it? My brother is nine years older than I, so maybe you could do the math on 'Nam for me since it seems you know my history better than I do.
Jeez, you are pulling straws outa some dark place to get some traction here.
I disagree with your statement about Bush going to 'Nam: Bush, most decidedly, did not go to 'Nam. I don't know where you get that information. He chose not to enlist and go over. He had his daddy pull strings to get him into the National Guard. He took the easy way out -- as he did for so much of his life.
You do remember that he was a drunk frat-boy turned pilot? Very worthy guy, I must say.
Regarding other rich kids: they didn't become president, they didn't start wars that got real servicemen killed, and they weren't voted on by the jingoistic "I'm all-American" conservatives that put Bush into office so he could play at being important again.
As for his visit to Fort Hood, yes, that was classy. Was he wearing an orange jumpsuit? Did he fly himself in? Was there really no banner?
Classy is coming late to this ex-President. Your ex-President and mine, god love us all. A Yalie frat-boy who now has a conscience.

Sorry, it was a typo, I meant to say, he did not go, but he was trained.
He must have done something right to make pilot, they just don't hand that job to anyone. He does have a fairly high IQ also. His full military records are out there to read and they are nothing to be ashamed of. Have you gone to the actual military site and read them yet, or you just listening to the far lefters rants?
See, you slandered him, by making snide remarks about his trip to Ft. Hood. Shame on you. At least he went and with diginity, and did it quietly and without all the fanfare that big O wants everytime he leaves the WH.
I don't think you understand all the reasons for going into Iraq. It wasn't just GWB that made that decision, there were other countries involved and there were plenty of Dems on the room voting.
Was it about the oil, yep, was it about Saddam genociding his own people, yep.
But one of the main reasons, that the left keeps avoiding is Saddam was getting ready to sell his oil and demanding it be paid for in Euros. That, my dear friend, would have destroyed America and her monetary system. The Dems in office knew this also and voted for the war right along side of him. So they need to accept some of the responsibilty.

[Yeah]

Glen wrote:

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Sorry, it was a typo, I meant to say, he did not go, but he was trained.
He must have done something right to make pilot, they just don't hand that job to anyone. He does have a fairly high IQ also. His full military records are out there to read and they are nothing to be ashamed of. Have you gone to the actual military site and read them yet, or you just listening to the far lefters rants?
See, you slandered him, by making snide remarks about his trip to Ft. Hood. Shame on you. At least he went and with diginity, and did it quietly and without all the fanfare that big O wants everytime he leaves the WH.
I don't think you understand all the reasons for going into Iraq. It wasn't just GWB that made that decision, there were other countries involved and there were plenty of Dems on the room voting.
Was it about the oil, yep, was it about Saddam genociding his own people, yep.
But one of the main reasons, that the left keeps avoiding is Saddam was getting ready to sell his oil and demanding it be paid for in Euros. That, my dear friend, would have destroyed America and her monetary system. The Dems in office knew this also and voted for the war right along side of him. So they need to accept some of the responsibilty.

Funny how you dislike remarks you don’t agree with about a republican, but have no trouble using it against a democrat. Selective assessment I guess.

As for the reasons for the war, I think we all have a clear picture of what happened. And it’s not even close to what Bush said he wanted to achieve. You’re using the same arguments about countries you claimed who supported Bush, but you never showed a thing to support that claim, only a verbal reprimand. On the other hand, I provided you various sources from various countries who had their doubts. GWB made the decision to go. That’s why they call him the CIC. If there’s a higher authority, let me know who that is.

As for the changing valuation of currency for oil, that’s currently happening now. In fact, even the Yuan is on the table. Think we should go to war again?

[hiloboy]

Glen wrote:

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Sorry, it was a typo, I meant to say, he did not go, but he was trained.
He must have done something right to make pilot, they just don't hand that job to anyone. He does have a fairly high IQ also. His full military records are out there to read and they are nothing to be ashamed of. Have you gone to the actual military site and read them yet, or you just listening to the far lefters rants?
See, you slandered him, by making snide remarks about his trip to Ft. Hood. Shame on you. At least he went and with diginity, and did it quietly and without all the fanfare that big O wants everytime he leaves the WH.
I don't think you understand all the reasons for going into Iraq. It wasn't just GWB that made that decision, there were other countries involved and there were plenty of Dems on the room voting.
Was it about the oil, yep, was it about Saddam genociding his own people, yep.
But one of the main reasons, that the left keeps avoiding is Saddam was getting ready to sell his oil and demanding it be paid for in Euros. That, my dear friend, would have destroyed America and her monetary system. The Dems in office knew this also and voted for the war right along side of him. So they need to accept some of the responsibilty.

You really need to get your information from a more reliable source than the internet. To get a better picture of the invasion of Iraq and the Bush presidencies (yes, both,but more on Dubya's) read "House of Bush, House of Saud" by Craig Unger,published in 2004. You will see that there is a more intricate, complex relationship between the Bushes, their inner circle and certain Arabian oil families than you ever imagined. You won't believe how members of the Bin Ladin family were helped to leave the country after 9/11. It is a truly tangled web and as President, George W. was in the center of it.

[Bullshot Crummond]

Glen wrote:

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Sorry, it was a typo, I meant to say, he did not go, but he was trained.
He must have done something right to make pilot, they just don't hand that job to anyone. He does have a fairly high IQ also. His full military records are out there to read and they are nothing to be ashamed of. Have you gone to the actual military site and read them yet, or you just listening to the far lefters rants?
See, you slandered him, by making snide remarks about his trip to Ft. Hood. Shame on you. At least he went and with diginity, and did it quietly and without all the fanfare that big O wants everytime he leaves the WH.
I don't think you understand all the reasons for going into Iraq. It wasn't just GWB that made that decision, there were other countries involved and there were plenty of Dems on the room voting.
Was it about the oil, yep, was it about Saddam genociding his own people, yep.
But one of the main reasons, that the left keeps avoiding is Saddam was getting ready to sell his oil and demanding it be paid for in Euros. That, my dear friend, would have destroyed America and her monetary system. The Dems in office knew this also and voted for the war right along side of him. So they need to accept some of the responsibilty.

I didn't slander him. I said "classy was coming late" and I mean it. The orange jumpsuit thing and the quick Thanksgiving turkey slicing photo op that Bush performed while in office really negates your criticisms of Obama if you weren't making the same critiques of Bush at the time.

So, no slander. Just disgust at this silver-spoon frat-boy who thought he was a "war president", didn't know much about the world outside of Crawford, thought the death penalty was funny, decided he was "the decider", and couldn't read his way out of a matchbook.

That's not hate, Glen, it's disgust -- both for him and the fools who voted him in at least once, if not twice. If that includes you, then you have to own up to the responsibility you dropped by doing so.

[alice]

Reagan funded and encouraged Saddam and Iraq. America should stop messing around in the ME and leave people alone.

[alice]

alice wrote:

Hawaii will be exempt from Obama's care hon. Not to worry. And millions want Obama care as it is better than the no care they get now.

true

[Nektron of Planet Phi]

hiloboy wrote:

<quoted text>You really need to get your information from a more reliable source than the internet. To get a better picture of the invasion of Iraq and the Bush presidencies (yes, both,but more on Dubya's) read "House of Bush, House of Saud" by Craig Unger,published in 2004. You will see that there is a more intricate, complex relationship between the Bushes, their inner circle and certain Arabian oil families than you ever imagined. You won't believe how members of the Bin Ladin family were helped to leave the country after 9/11. It is a truly tangled web and as President, George W. was in the center of it.

Can I borrow your tinfoil hat before I read that book? I need to eliminate all of these voices I'm hearing from distracting me.

[Glen]

hiloboy wrote:

<quoted text>You really need to get your information from a more reliable source than the internet. To get a better picture of the invasion of Iraq and the Bush presidencies (yes, both,but more on Dubya's) read "House of Bush, House of Saud" by Craig Unger,published in 2004. You will see that there is a more intricate, complex relationship between the Bushes, their inner circle and certain Arabian oil families than you ever imagined. You won't believe how members of the Bin Ladin family were helped to leave the country after 9/11. It is a truly tangled web and as President, George W. was in the center of it.

I guess it got by you that the Bin Ladin family was escorted out of the country to basically keep them safe. Even though they had disowned that part of the family a long time before. If they had stayed and were killed, there could have been a horrible war right here on our soil. The movement was done to protect Americans.
Yeah, I want to read a left leaning book and call it the gospel.
FYI, I get my info from several sources, unlike you.

[Bullshot Crummond]

Glen wrote:

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I guess it got by you that the Bin Ladin family was escorted out of the country to basically keep them safe. Even though they had disowned that part of the family a long time before. If they had stayed and were killed, there could have been a horrible war right here on our soil. The movement was done to protect Americans.
Yeah, I want to read a left leaning book and call it the gospel.
FYI, I get my info from several sources, unlike you.

Apparently, given what you just said about "left leaning book", you don't get your information from several sources unless they agree with your outlook.

Who would have been been fighting a war here on our soil? What country was going to attack us for even threatening the House of Saud?

Or would our oil have been cut off from that quarter?

Are all conservatives that rigid in their thinking?

Apparently, Glen, you believe what you are told and you have little ability to ask the right questions -- and none at all to question the Right.

[hiloboy]

Glen wrote:

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I guess it got by you that the Bin Ladin family was escorted out of the country to basically keep them safe. Even though they had disowned that part of the family a long time before. If they had stayed and were killed, there could have been a horrible war right here on our soil. The movement was done to protect Americans.
Yeah, I want to read a left leaning book and call it the gospel.
FYI, I get my info from several sources, unlike you.

What's the matter? Afraid of what you'll find out? How do you know it's a "left leaning" book until you read it? It must have gotten by you that there was a no fly rule in effect immediately after 9/11- with one exception. Everything in the book was documented, there were no law suits for slander and no denials from anyone involved.

[alice]

Glen wrote:

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I guess it got by you that the Bin Ladin family was escorted out of the country to basically keep them safe. Even though they had disowned that part of the family a long time before. If they had stayed and were killed, there could have been a horrible war right here on our soil. The movement was done to protect Americans.
Yeah, I want to read a left leaning book and call it the gospel.
FYI, I get my info from several sources, unlike you.

Bush refused to provide information about the attack and tried to hide that he had plenty of warning. He was warned by the CIA weeks before the attack. Binbn Laden was a friend of Bush. We still do not have a real klnowledge of what really happened. We just know it all changed this country for the worse and forever.

[Boing boing Pinoy]

Making fractured fairy tales again? Try Spell Check it works.

[its hilo]

hiloboy wrote:

<quoted text>What's the matter? Afraid of what you'll find out? How do you know it's a "left leaning" book until you read it? It must have gotten by you that there was a no fly rule in effect immediately after 9/11- with one exception. Everything in the book was documented, there were no law suits for slander and no denials from anyone involved.

sorry to burst your bubble h-boy!!

http://www.factcheck.org/article294.html

[Glen]

its hilo wrote:

<quoted text>sorry to burst your bubble h-boy!!
http://www.factcheck.org/article294.html

Great artile, thanks, that is pretty much the way I remember it happening, but to convince anyone else is hard to do.
If the bin Laden family had stayed here, there could have been a massive war on our soil. Emotions were very high back then. They had disowned Osama several years earlier.
These haters, need to stop putting so much faith in Michael Moores movies. He isn't in the business of putting out facts, just selling hate against his own country to make a buck. Yet, he rants on how he hates Capitalism, while using Capitalism making money.

[Bullshot Crummond]

Glen wrote:

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Great artile, thanks, that is pretty much the way I remember it happening, but to convince anyone else is hard to do.
If the bin Laden family had stayed here, there could have been a massive war on our soil. Emotions were very high back then. They had disowned Osama several years earlier.
These haters, need to stop putting so much faith in Michael Moores movies. He isn't in the business of putting out facts, just selling hate against his own country to make a buck. Yet, he rants on how he hates Capitalism, while using Capitalism making money.

Again you say "war on our soil". By whom? Where's your source for this? Give something credible -- something from the FBI or CIA or DOD.

[alice]

alice wrote:

<quoted text>Bush refused to provide information about the attack and tried to hide that he had plenty of warning. He was warned by the CIA weeks before the attack. Bin Laden was a friend of Bush. We still do not have a real knowledge of what really happened. We just know it all changed this country for the worse and forever.

so true and so sad..one day Bush will have to answer for the blood on his hands.

[Lefty]

Honorably Discharged wrote:

Bush was AWOL long enough to be considered a deserter, but was never so charged because of his politically powerful father, PRESIDENT George H.W. Bush. Clinton's outstanding military record was his eight years as the Commander-in-Chief of our military. For the record, the draft dodger of all time was VP Slippery Dick Cheney, who had four or five draft exemptions. Or was it six?

Both AWOL and Desertion are crimes which have certain elements that must be proven in a court of law to be substantiated. Uninformed accusations mean nothing. Don't make me laugh with Clinton's outstanding "miliary record". He was a draft dodger and a phony. No argument on Cheney either. Like I said, I'm no fan of any of them, but mindless condemnation is as useless as mindless praise.