Methadone clinic could cause problems

[Debrinconcita]

Proudofit wrote:

I go to the Methadone Clinic and it has helped me so much. Now, I see things more clearly and I have my life straightened out. I wouldn't go back to the life of flashing lights and loud noise if someone paid me 1 million! I love my life now and if you've ever been there you know where Im coming from. You know what the difference is. All these ppl on here who act like its just another way to get high are really just uneducated and don't want help! Thats exactly the way I saw things when I was on every fix I could get. I just didn't understand it. But you know, I took that chance and I am so thankful i did. Cause now, I have a newfound way of life! At, least we are trying and not out there on the streets going to jail everytime we go down the road. And we know its there every day and not have to worry if my dealers ran out of oxys or not... So, don't be quick to judge us, cause only God can do that.

Your the perfect example of someone who's done their program right! Thanks for the posting, I applaud you for your determination. Your my hero, and I hope that I get to where you are someday soon,thanks for the inspiration. DEB

[new01]

unsure wrote:

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No one chooses to become addicted. Sure they choose to take that first pill; but then people respond differently to medications. I never had a desire to use narcotics other than just a couple of days for post surgical pain as I intensely disliked the way that they made me feel. I have had friends, on the other hand, who readily admitted to me that their experience was entirely different. They loved the way the narcotics made them feel. It doesn't mean that they chose to continue to use and ultimately abuse them and become addicted; but it does mean that their brains had a different response to the drugs than mine did.

I think you will find most people did dislike them, i intensely disliked them too short term, nausea all that. I disliked codeine anything of the sort, i tried methadone and bham a switch must have flicked. Sometimes i still do have a love hate relationship with it.

[hey]

druggies wrote:

no it means they chose to become druggies as i stated,that is the high and you wont get that high unless you take more than prescibed or shoot it or snort it again it wasnt meant to be taken that way. and then they are too weak to make it thru the withdrawals, people can quit and survive without drugs if they want to no matter where or how they were raised poor or rich if they want to quit they can people all over the world have dealt with opium addiction most do not use methadone

you are so full of crap. you wasn't on pain pills very long if you didn't get addicted to them. i started out taking them as prescribed just like you said you did. the problem is when you are in an accident and have to stay on them long term 6 months or longer then you do become addicted no matter how strong you are. you don't have to snort them or shoot them either. i have never done either! i will bet that you don't even know what opium is. you say you have taken them, and i will be that it was for some dental work, very short-term, and i will also bet that you have never been severely hurt in an accident in your life. so, you are so quick to judge, and you don't know anything that you are talking about.

[noname]

Magwah I have alot against these so called Methadone Clinics and also for the people that get on here and Lie about them never ever ever geting high off of Methadone.I might come off as hatefull but what I hate what has effected me the most is these des of addiction.These is a life or death topic.What you call mis Info Is mostly the ones that are against the clinics not the ones that are saying they don't get high and they will when they feel like it get off of Methadone.Noing good and well that there cances our very slim to none.Have you every went to a using Addits's Furnaral?I have over a long poid of time seen 100 if not 1000 of addict's dieing senselessly.Weather they are in a Methadone clinic or not I had one of my family member's Kill themselfes or OD .All becouse they had to sever a short tem in jail and They couldn't deal with the withdraw of the Methadone in jail.I myself wanted to kill myself becouse I didn't see any way to get sober from Methadone.Now maybe you might want to look at the other side for just a min Maybe a Moment of silence for those addict's that are gone today due inpart to some of these so callrd clinic's.I am around recovering addict's everyday and I know of only one that used a clinic and is sober today.Although she used Subutex she has a year sober next week.I no of noone that has ever gotten sober from help from these Methadone Clinic's.NOT ONE MY FRIEND!!!

[druggies]

i repeat if you use the prescribed pills as they are prescribed you will not be addicted, i guarantee you took more than you were supposed to because the pain you claim to be in was getting worse, you were weak but it happens now be strong kick the habit you dont need methadone or any other opiate to survive the pain only lasts a few days then you can become a productive member of society

[hey]

funny how you never reply to the comments i make when they are directed at you. if you will go back and look at one of my last posts that i made replying to the things that you said, i ask for alot of the statistics about the inpatient rehab and it's success rate. did you ever get that? no, of course not, because it is very low. people, most people, who go into an inpatient detox come out and continue to abuse drugs because they don't work. also, your remark about unite, they WILL NOT PAY FOR LONG TERM REHABILITATION! if you have to go into a treatment center for a year or longer, you can forget about unite helping you pay. you are also, incorrect on that statement.the reason that you don't reply to the comments that i direct towards you is because i have called you out in the fact that you have never been in a methadone clinic, nor tried to detox from one. like the comment you made about people having to sell their house to pay for the clinic, if you were ever in the clinic, you would know that that was not the truth. if you were ever in a clinic, you would know that you have to sign a contract stating that you will get and keep a job while in treatment. that is how you pay for the treatment by working, something that alot of addicts aren't able to do before getting into the clinic. they are unable to keep a job because of the days that they are without pills and sick they call into to work, sick.just another reason that i believe that you were addicted to street methadone, and not in a clinic. maybe if you were on a stable dose of methadone, and not out here buying it off the street, you would not have gotten high off of it either. the fact is that you were getting high off the methadone because you were buying it off the street, taking some here and there. there is a big difference if you take the same amount every day, at the same time of the day. when i say that i don't get high off the methadone given at the clinic, i am telling the truth. i do not even get sleepy from it like i did when i first started the clinic. you said that you had a family member od because he couldn't handle the withdraw from methadone while in jail. one question, how did he overdose in jail? i have looked at the other side, and that is why i am in the clinic now. i have lived both sides with the clinic and without. my life is definately better since the clinic has saved my life. like i have said before, the clinic has helped alot of people get their lives back. the clinic has made many addicts believe that they finally have a life that is worth living. you may have your opinion of the clinic, but you being an addict yourself, looks like you would have tried the clinic before you get on here bashing it, especially when you don't know anything about getting treatment at a clinic. all you know about is being addicted to methadone. it is completely 2 different senarios.

[hey]

the last comment was directed to noname.

[mugwah]

noname wrote:

Magwah I have alot against these so called Methadone Clinics and also for the people that get on here and Lie about them never ever ever geting high off of Methadone.I might come off as hatefull but what I hate what has effected me the most is these des of addiction.These is a life or death topic.What you call mis Info Is mostly the ones that are against the clinics not the ones that are saying they don't get high and they will when they feel like it get off of Methadone.Noing good and well that there cances our very slim to none.Have you every went to a using Addits's Furnaral?I have over a long poid of time seen 100 if not 1000 of addict's dieing senselessly.Weather they are in a Methadone clinic or not I had one of my family member's Kill themselfes or OD .All becouse they had to sever a short tem in jail and They couldn't deal with the withdraw of the Methadone in jail.I myself wanted to kill myself becouse I didn't see any way to get sober from Methadone.Now maybe you might want to look at the other side for just a min Maybe a Moment of silence for those addict's that are gone today due inpart to some of these so callrd clinic's.I am around recovering addict's everyday and I know of only one that used a clinic and is sober today.Although she used Subutex she has a year sober next week.I no of noone that has ever gotten sober from help from these Methadone Clinic's.NOT ONE MY FRIEND!!!

i just spent an hour and a half writting an answer to your post and i tried submitting it 4 times and topix just wouldn't put it through and now i've lost it. i will try again later this afternoon. i wanted you to know i was not ignoring you. ok?

[noname]

Debrinconcita wrote:

<quoted text>Your the perfect example of someone who's done their program right! Thanks for the posting, I applaud you for your determination. Your my hero, and I hope that I get to where you are someday soon,thanks for the inspiration. DEB

Yea you really told the truth there!!!That you don't have to worrie about the dopeman running out cause the clinics make sure you have you're fix every day.Plus it's totaly legal why would a addict want to get clean?If there isn's a reason a big reason for you to get sober then you can just stay in the clinics and use for the rest or you;re life.case closed

[noname]

druggies wrote:

i repeat if you use the prescribed pills as they are prescribed you will not be addicted, i guarantee you took more than you were supposed to because the pain you claim to be in was getting worse, you were weak but it happens now be strong kick the habit you dont need methadone or any other opiate to survive the pain only lasts a few days then you can become a productive member of society

Sorry but you are totaly wrong I did take as prescribed and still after year's even week's you're body becomes addicted to them.Also getting off Methadone takes alot more then just a few day's you're talking abou month's of W/D I went 21 day's srait without sleep and ended up useing so I could sleep.Methadone is one of the most Powerfull drug's ever it takes year's to really recover even a little bit.Plus you will alway's be a addict and can make one bad choise.Don't tell you doc you're a addict when you have a tooth pulled and you are right back were you stared no matter how many year's days you have.I know people that have had 20 years sober forget what there were and end up dead from this dis.I don't think you know anything about this why don't you go back and read all the other pages maybe then you might have something to share as it is you don't have anything.

[noname]

new01 wrote:

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I think you will find most people did dislike them, i intensely disliked them too short term, nausea all that. I disliked codeine anything of the sort, i tried methadone and bham a switch must have flicked. Sometimes i still do have a love hate relationship with it.

(Quote) I tied Methadone and Bham a swith must have flicted)Yes my swith fliped to and that is why I was addicted to Methadone for over 7 years.Just like that you're a Methadone addict.Or you still on Methadone our were you the very few that broke away and got off it.I'd say that you are mostly still on it.It is one of the hardest drug's if not the hardest to get off of.Good luck anyway's

[noname]

hey wrote:

funny how you never reply to the comments i make when they are directed at you. if you will go back and look at one of my last posts that i made replying to the things that you said, i ask for alot of the statistics about the inpatient rehab and it's success rate. did you ever get that? no, of course not, because it is very low. people, most people, who go into an inpatient detox come out and continue to abuse drugs because they don't work. also, your remark about unite, they WILL NOT PAY FOR LONG TERM REHABILITATION! if you have to go into a treatment center for a year or longer, you can forget about unite helping you pay. you are also, incorrect on that statement.the reason that you don't reply to the comments that i direct towards you is because i have called you out in the fact that you have never been in a methadone clinic, nor tried to detox from one. like the comment you made about people having to sell their house to pay for the clinic, if you were ever in the clinic, you would know that that was not the truth. if you were ever in a clinic, you would know that you have to sign a contract stating that you will get and keep a job while in treatment. that is how you pay for the treatment by working, something that alot of addicts aren't able to do before getting into the clinic. they are unable to keep a job because of the days that they are without pills and sick they call into to work, sick.just another reason that i believe that you were addicted to street methadone, and not in a clinic. maybe if you were on a stable dose of methadone, and not out here buying it off the street, you would not have gotten high off of it either. the fact is that you were getting high off the methadone because you were buying it off the street, taking some here and there. there is a big difference if you take the same amount every day, at the same time of the day. when i say that i don't get high off the methadone given at the clinic, i am telling the truth. i do not even get sleepy from it like i did when i first started the clinic. you said that you had a family member od because he couldn't handle the withdraw from methadone while in jail. one question, how did he overdose in jail? i have looked at the other side, and that is why i am in the clinic now. i have lived both sides with the clinic and without. my life is definately better since the clinic has saved my life. like i have said before, the clinic has helped alot of people get their lives back. the clinic has made many addicts believe that they finally have a life that is worth living. you may have your opinion of the clinic, but you being an addict yourself, looks like you would have tried the clinic before you get on here bashing it, especially when you don't know anything about getting treatment at a clinic. all you know about is being addicted to methadone. it is completely 2 different senarios.

first of all You must be thinking of someone eles I said nothing about having to sell someones house.Forget fullness is a side effect of Methadone.Also I was on a stable dose of Methadone I was in the clinic 4-5 differnt times I believe that you don't think anyone can get off of Methadone If you would like me to send you med record's I can talk to my gielfriend of 10 years or my mother I think I wil get her to post.Also my cousein OD at home I said he kiled himself becouse he was afaid of the W/D not of withdraws.You have a confussed mind .That is alao A side effect of Methadone.As for reports I only know of first hand we have a longterm treatment center here in Somerset Ky called the liberty ranch and they have a really good rait of people I Belive that here in Somerset If there stayed a year I know they are all still sober today becouse I see them all the time.You really need to get you're fact's right that is the reason you don't believe me is couse you don't read what I said right you jump to conclusion.

[sowrong]

i have read the past article in the cj. i think the coroner is right we should be supportive of helping those that have problems and also realize that this clinic comes with a price of abuse also.

[noname]

Hey my mother tryed to post onto this site to tell you the truth but for some reson are anouther it just won't go through the people that edit this site I think they pick and take out what they want. or somerthing is up.She wrote about my storey. I just think that HEY don't believe anyone can get off of methadone and I didn't either even when I was in Detox I ask them if they ever had anyone to come off of Methadone at a high level they said no.I was one of the few that had ever came there and tryed to get off of Methadone.I onely no of a few people that have been able to get out of that trap!!!thank god I did and I'm off of the Subutex now too.Long and hard road 10 years to be strait with ya.Really sad UH!!!

[noname]

hey wrote:

funny how you never reply to the comments i make when they are directed at you. if you will go back and look at one of my last posts that i made replying to the things that you said, i ask for alot of the statistics about the inpatient rehab and it's success rate. did you ever get that? no, of course not, because it is very low. people, most people, who go into an inpatient detox come out and continue to abuse drugs because they don't work. also, your remark about unite, they WILL NOT PAY FOR LONG TERM REHABILITATION! if you have to go into a treatment center for a year or longer, you can forget about unite helping you pay. you are also, incorrect on that statement.the reason that you don't reply to the comments that i direct towards you is because i have called you out in the fact that you have never been in a methadone clinic, nor tried to detox from one. like the comment you made about people having to sell their house to pay for the clinic, if you were ever in the clinic, you would know that that was not the truth. if you were ever in a clinic, you would know that you have to sign a contract stating that you will get and keep a job while in treatment. that is how you pay for the treatment by working, something that alot of addicts aren't able to do before getting into the clinic. they are unable to keep a job because of the days that they are without pills and sick they call into to work, sick.just another reason that i believe that you were addicted to street methadone, and not in a clinic. maybe if you were on a stable dose of methadone, and not out here buying it off the street, you would not have gotten high off of it either. the fact is that you were getting high off the methadone because you were buying it off the street, taking some here and there. there is a big difference if you take the same amount every day, at the same time of the day. when i say that i don't get high off the methadone given at the clinic, i am telling the truth. i do not even get sleepy from it like i did when i first started the clinic. you said that you had a family member od because he couldn't handle the withdraw from methadone while in jail. one question, how did he overdose in jail? i have looked at the other side, and that is why i am in the clinic now. i have lived both sides with the clinic and without. my life is definately better since the clinic has saved my life. like i have said before, the clinic has helped alot of people get their lives back. the clinic has made many addicts believe that they finally have a life that is worth living. you may have your opinion of the clinic, but you being an addict yourself, looks like you would have tried the clinic before you get on here bashing it, especially when you don't know anything about getting treatment at a clinic. all you know about is being addicted to methadone. it is completely 2 different senarios.

you must be high becouse I never said anything about selling a house and my cusin O/d at home I said he was affaid of the W/D in jail not O/D in Jail If you would read the whole post instead of picking out deff stuff you might know what I'm talking about.I really think that the side effects of the Methadone Is getting to ya.Forgetfullness,Not thinking clearly,You should have lower you're dose!!

[noname]

The corner didn't give all the death's that have happened over car wrecks people, killing there selfes are dieing from the side effects of Methadone I know off alot more then just one.He has a funural home and he also is being paid from people that are pro clinc.Don't belive everthing you read!!

[blondie]

Baphomet wrote:

Once you are this far into addiction, the best and only treatment that works, is euthanasia.

That is bs. Anyone who really wants help can stop using.

[mugwah]

SOUTHERN HOSTILITY wrote:

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I agree w/Mug's 1st statement here.Methadone should be used short-term and in low doseage for people seeking opiate/addiction escape,not to maintain long term dependency maintenance.Some of you are misreading or seeking to create conflict with my own,first hand personal experiences with Methadone for over a 6 yr.period.I made clear it was only euphoric in ever-increasing doses or when combined with other drugs/substances.I too had a friend like a brother for over 30 yrs. die aided by the combining of high dose Methadone and literally handfuls of Benzos(Xanax in this case)for about a 2-3 yr.period.Methadone should be intended for use in addition to drug dependency awareness education,NA treatment,or some other form of education.My personal belief is if you're not will to educate yourself or take some kind of steps other than just Methadone intake period,you're not at all serious about doing whatever it may take to acquire sobriety.Seeing that's the case,you should not be allowed Methadone maintenance for any period of time in lieu of allowing someone else that is serious about achieving sobriety go without the help because you just want the drug for whatever reasons.

thank you, i apreciate your comments. i need to respomd to a gentleman who posed a question earlier and i will try to do this later tonight, if i can. i hope then to be a bit more clear than posibly i have in the past. i did write one reply this morning but for some reason, topix would not post it, i don't know why but i will try again tonight, if i can. be well.

[hey]

noname wrote:

Magwah I have alot against these so called Methadone Clinics and also for the people that get on here and Lie about them never ever ever geting high off of Methadone.I might come off as hatefull but what I hate what has effected me the most is these des of addiction.These is a life or death topic.What you call mis Info Is mostly the ones that are against the clinics not the ones that are saying they don't get high and they will when they feel like it get off of Methadone.Noing good and well that there cances our very slim to none.Have you every went to a using Addits's Furnaral?I have over a long poid of time seen 100 if not 1000 of addict's dieing senselessly.Weather they are in a Methadone clinic or not I had one of my family member's Kill themselfes or OD .All becouse they had to sever a short tem in jail and They couldn't deal with the withdraw of the Methadone in jail.I myself wanted to kill myself becouse I didn't see any way to get sober from Methadone.Now maybe you might want to look at the other side for just a min Maybe a Moment of silence for those addict's that are gone today due inpart to some of these so callrd clinic's.I am around recovering addict's everyday and I know of only one that used a clinic and is sober today.Although she used Subutex she has a year sober next week.I no of noone that has ever gotten sober from help from these Methadone Clinic's.NOT ONE MY FRIEND!!!

since, forgetfulness is a symptom of methadone use, i just thought that i would reply to one of the posts that i was referring to that you typed yourself! where to begin, if you will look at your post above, you said that your cousin committed suicide because he couldn't deal with the withdraw in jail. maybe if you were able to write a sentence that made sense, your posts wouldn't be so hard to understand. true, i may be on methadone, but i can bet you 10 to 1 that i am a hell of alot smarter than you will or have ever been, even being on methadone. what i will do next, is go back and reply to the other post where you said that people have to sell their houses to pay for the clinic. be right back!@

[hey]

hey wrote:

<quoted text>since, forgetfulness is a symptom of methadone use, i just thought that i would reply to one of the posts that i was referring to that you typed yourself! where to begin, if you will look at your post above, you said that your cousin committed suicide because he couldn't deal with the withdraw in jail. maybe if you were able to write a sentence that made sense, your posts wouldn't be so hard to understand. true, i may be on methadone, but i can bet you 10 to 1 that i am a hell of alot smarter than you will or have ever been, even being on methadone. what i will do next, is go back and reply to the other post where you said that people have to sell their houses to pay for the clinic. be right back!@

no, i am sorry, you are right, you didn't say anything about selling a house to pay for the clinic. i went back and found the post that i was referring to, and i realized it was talking about selling "take homes". i had to add a few words, take a few away, and decipher what you wrote just to be able to understand what you were even talking about. with the way that you spell, and your grammer it is hard to understand anything that you write, and you say that you are sober today. well, i am too, i have been ever since i got into the clinic. the bullshit that you try to have people believe about being high from the clinic, is just that, bullshit. i have not been high ever since the first 3 months that i began the program. i have read all of the posts that you have written, or tried to, and i have also followed your story from the very beginning of this thread. and i, from the very beginning have always thought that you were addicted to street methadone, and never been in a clinic. the reason that i think that is because you don't know anything about the clinic.