Legalized pot wouldn't be a panacea
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#1 Apr 25, 2010
I'm normally a big Elias fan, but he falls well short of the mark here. His pricing ($10 per ounce?$40 to $50 for a scrip from "shady doctors"?) suggest a basic unfamiliarity with pot economics, and it's hard to see how he rejects all Prohibition comparisons simply because pot has never been produced commercially.
Far more troubling is his irresponsible and ill-founded suggestion that legalization could bring open drug wars to the streets of California. That conveniently ignores the high price of the failed "drug war" that has already been raging for decades, and the extension of Elias' argument is that drug wars are OK so long as they're fought in Mexico. Out of sight, out of mind ... hardly an adequate response to a problem that has more positive solutions available.
#2 Apr 25, 2010
What world does this guy live in? Ten dollars/oz? Maybe in the sixties. More like $300 -$600 for anything of quality. Almost $200 for a doctor's recommendation.
More importantly, it is time to acknowledge that the Drug War is a failure, has cost us billions of dollars and has not done anything to stem the flow of drugs into this country or prevent the use of drugs by adults.
We could save a small fortune if we were to stop all interdiction efforts & quit prosecuting and locking up offenders. Where has it gotten us? Has drug usage declined? Are drugs any less available? If we were to do this, it could also take away much of the incentive for street crime and burglary and robbery rates would probably drop. If adults want to use intoxicating or illegal substances; there's nothing that can be done to stop them. And if they want to kill themselves in the process, so what?
#3 Apr 25, 2010
"There's a sense among a lot of Californians that legalizing marijuana and then taxing it is some sort of panacea"
Red herring. No one thinks it will be a "panacea." Instead, many people think regulated legalization would be better, safer, less supportive of drug cartels, and general a lot less expensive than the disastrous failure knows as the War on Drugs. We waste billions sending goon squads into remote areas via helicopter to pull weeds. Then we waste billions more on prosecuting and incarcerating people who want to use an herb. It's all such madness. People just want it to stop. The main beneficiaries today are the drug cartels and the prison workers' union and the prison building industry.(Which one is paying Elias to shill for them, I wonder?)
"How likely are pot prices to remain at their present level of $10 per ounce or more?"
Ten bucks an oz? More nonsense. What is he is smoking? This guy is just so out of touch with reality.
"With legalization already likely to bring the street price of pot down, the drug cartels behind many of today's illicit operations won't want to give a nickel to the tax man. They may, in fact, engage in some kind of warfare against growers who do pay taxes and let themselves be regulated."
More nonsense. Do illegal cartels ever pay tax? Of course not. Are backwoods moonshine makers waging war against Anheuser Busch or Coors or Seagrams? Of course not.
#4 Apr 26, 2010
I am so sick and tired of the"old" B.S. the war on drugs are a failure.
If you want to win a war, either in Iraq or on drugs, you don't pussy foot around.
A very distinct image I remember is seeing the bombed out cities in Germany some are nothing more than a shell of a building yet every one has a white flag hanging out the window.
THEY HAS SURRENDERED!
The war on drugs can be one by locking everyone for using an illegal narcotic.
That mean all those coke heads working at movie studios and then fining the studios.
Put a few movie stars and producers along with some of our local politicians in jail, then confiscate their possessions.
But you stupid morons think, legalize pot and EVERYTHING will be alright,
I bet you didn't know that beer and vodka are both alcohol, you do then why is 12oz of beer less than 12oz of vodka? or for that fact why is wine, scotch, gin, whiskey, or liqueur all priced differently?
Are they not just alcohol like pot?
Iv'e got another question?
How are you going to determine how many tokes or joints before you are under the influence?
Did you know that 2 oz. of vodka (over the limit)IS different than 2 oz. of beer?(ok to drive)
And any moron who thinks that the murders in Mexico will stop is just that a MORON.(probably a pot moron)
As for our home grown gang murderers IF and I mean IFlegal pot drives them out of business what makes you think they won't focus all their attention on coke, meth,and heroin, or maybe you want that crap legalized also.
#5 Apr 26, 2010
Legalize marijuana and I will smoke to that. It will be good the country.
#8 Apr 26, 2010
Who remembers the DB Headlines of 1959,,,,,,
"Marijuana Seed Found On Floorboard Of Teen's Car".
Whoa, how times have changed!!!
#10 Apr 26, 2010
Wow Richard Cory, you need some serious English lessons and a brain! Your post has to be one of the dumbest I have ever read online. It is not surprising you are anti cannabis--most stupid people are!
#11 Apr 26, 2010
I remember a hellish night spent in jail in Sarpy county Nebraska when a deputy found marijuana seeds on the floorboard of my car that were actually no more then little rocks. Maybe that's why cops get a "bad" reputation.
End the drug war now. I don't want my children brutalized by psycho cops.
#12 Apr 26, 2010
And apparently he like living in a nanny-state and/or a Police State. No freedom for us in his world.
#13 Apr 26, 2010
I can't believe this tripe was published in more than one place! It is factually incorrect, as stated by 100+ comments that highlighted its inaccuracies in another discussion (where an identical article by Thomas Elias was entitled "Legalize Marijuana? Not so fast.") Unbelievable. After seeing this, I don't doubt Thomas Elias was paid to deliver this DEA propaganda by some entity who benefits financially from marijuana prohibition, and if he wasn't, then he's a willlfully misinformed pseudo-journalist who needs to learn to do proper research. Sad either way.
Prohibition causes more violence than legalizing what you are trying to prohibit. Learn something from history: http://bit.ly/auvmYV
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