Scientists Confirm That Global Warming Is a Lie

A peer-reviewed article in the Journal of Geophysical Research confirms what anyone who isn't drunk on Kool-Aid has already figured out: fluctuations in the climate are not caused by capitalism.

[NobodyYouKnow]

A seriously cracked piece of misdirection and misinformation.

First, AGW is about SURFACE temperature. The global average temperature of the first 150 meters of rock and about 600 meters of air. It changes VERY slowly, but has strong influence on what KIND of climate you will get.

ENSO is strong in terms of variability withing that climate but it is just climate noise. It doesn't have a long term 'trend' of change.

Almost fits into the 'not even wrong' school of dram queen action.

[NobodyYouKnow]

600 meters of ocean. It's late..

[Earthling]

NobodyYouKnow wrote:

A seriously cracked piece of misdirection and misinformation.
First, AGW is about SURFACE temperature. The global average temperature of the first 150 meters of rock and about 600 meters of air. It changes VERY slowly, but has strong influence on what KIND of climate you will get.
ENSO is strong in terms of variability withing that climate but it is just climate noise. It doesn't have a long term 'trend' of change.
Almost fits into the 'not even wrong' school of dram queen action.

Why don't you you get in touch with this group and advise them of their errors?
I'm sure the University of Auckland, New Zealand is easily contactable and that they would welcome your peer review.
And your thoughts were pre-empted:

The true believers will not be moved by the peer-reviewed findings of Chris de Freitas, John McLean and Bob Carter, scientists at universities in Australia and New Zealand.

http://www.theatheistconservative.com/tag/chr...

[Earthling]

"The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it."

H.L. Mencken

Proven so many times in the past.

[Fair Game]

The authors seem to have sneaked the paper through peer review by making a fairly innocuous claim in a paper about ENSO:

[it] is a major contributor to variability and perhaps recent trends in global temperature"

...and then started making claims in climate change denial websites that the paper does not justify:

We have shown that internal global climate-system variability accounts for at least 80% of the observed global climate variation over the past half-century.

http://initforthegold.blogspot.com/2009/07/su...

The paper is demolished here:

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-ne...

It’s certainly not true that their analysis shows “natural climate forcing associated with ENSO is a major contributor to variability and perhaps recent trends in global temperature.” It shows no such thing; their analysis removes all the effect of trends.

[Fair Game]

An Auckland University geographer has been caught up in a political storm in the United States over a study which challenges the conventional wisdom over global warming.

Dr Chris de Freitas, who describes himself as a climate “agnostic”, has been attacked in a US Senate committee hearing for letting the study appear in the journal Climate Research, where he is one of the editors.

The journal’s editor-in-chief, Dr Hans von Storch, resigned in protest last week when the journal’s publisher, Otto Kinne, refused to let him run an editorial saying that publication of the study was a mistake. Two other editors also resigned.

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But a review editor for Climate Research, Professor Mike Hulme of the University of East Anglia in Britain, has sent an email to colleagues around the world noting that Dr de Freitas’ editing of the journal had already been criticised over similar studies in 1999.

“Of 16 published papers de Freitas has been editor for, nine have been authored by scientists who are well known for their opposition to the notion that humans are significantly altering global climate,” Dr Hume wrote.

Scientific American reported:“Some conclude that politics drove the paper’s publication in Climate Research.

Dr de Freitas published a major study last year in the Bulletin of Canadian Petroleum Geology, edited by his brother Dr Tim de Freitas, of Talisman Energy in Calgary, arguing that “there is no reason to believe that catastrophic [climate] change is under way”.

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-ne...

[Earthling]

I was wondering where the "green troll" had got to, now I know, he's been searching for evidence to debunk this theory.
Whatever floats his boat.

[Fair Game]

Earthling wrote:

I was wondering where the "green troll" had got to, now I know, he's been searching for evidence to debunk this theory.
Whatever floats his boat.

...sinks yours.

[Earthling]

I don't have a boat to sink.

[NobodyYouKnow]

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>Why don't you you get in touch with this group and advise them of their errors?

What error? The misdrection was from moonbat. The science said the climate NOISE is 80% driven by decadal climate cycles. It wasa this 'moonbatty' that decided that there was therefore no trend fromchanging climate.

[NobodyYouKnow]

Earthling wrote:

I don't have a boat to sink.

How true..

"That ENSO is a major contributor to recent trends in global temperature, they have not shown — not even “perhaps."

So they used their paper for spinning 'wild allegations'? That should certainly have been deleted by peer review since it is total hot air.

No boat. How sad.

[Earthling]

NobodyYouKnow wrote:

What error? The misdrection was from moonbat. The science said the climate NOISE is 80% driven by decadal climate cycles. It wasa this 'moonbatty' that decided that there was therefore no trend fromchanging climate.

"What error?"
If you know, why don't you advise them?
I'm sure they'll listen.
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"It wasa this 'moonbatty' that decided that there was therefore no trend fromchanging climate."
I suggest you only post when sober!!!

[Earthling]

NobodyYouKnow wrote:

No boat. How sad.

I had a canoe when I was younger, does that count?

[Brian_G]

More likely, climate mitigation is an enormous hoax.

[Dog]

Earthling wrote:

I don't have a boat to sink.

Woof, Earring, You may not have a boat, but your CRAP floats!

[Brian_G]

Fair Game wrote:

The authors seem to have sneaked the paper through peer review by making a fairly innocuous claim in a paper about ENSO:
...and then started making claims in climate change denial websites that the paper does not justify:...

You can easily see when fanaticism or politics supersede logic. The Turk FarGo doesn't like science and can't follow the argument. He is good at using a search engine and cut and paste.

[Listen]

I understand it has to be filtered so idiots can understand but scientists just don't call these things 'lies'. They are not scientists. They are conservatives. There is a BIG difference.

[Earthling]

Dog wrote:

Woof, Earring, You may not have a boat, but your CRAP floats!

LOL, I dropped some in SF a while ago, hope you found it.

[Dog]

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>LOL, I dropped some in SF a while ago, hope you found it.

Woof, Earring, You Green-nuts always expose yourselves. Thanks for the confession, Even I a DOG wouldn't crap in SF Bay. Some Environmentalist!

[mememine69]

Dog wrote:

<quoted text>
Woof, Earring, You Green-nuts always expose yourselves. Thanks for the confession, Even I a DOG wouldn't crap in SF Bay. Some Environmentalist!

Silly, it's fish poop thats killing the seas and lakes.