Ramon Renteria: How to tell if someone is from El Chuco

Jose Luis Torres collects memories that remind him of his past life in El Paso and Juarez. Full Story
Get Real

El Paso, TX

#21 Feb 7, 2010
I memmer wrote:
You're from El Chuco if you remember going from El Paso to Juarez on a trolley car, seeing the Sun Kings play at Dudley Field, watching Coronado High School play La Bowie at the Sun Bowl in a bi-district game, having a malt shake at the Wigwam next to Ysleta High School, driving 15 hours on a two lane highway to get to San Antonio, going to bridal showers and weddings at the Continental Ballroom located way out on the Carlsbad Highway.
Remember a player on the Sun Kings by t he name of Charley Pride? He went on to become a singer and one of hs big tunes was Kiss and angel Good Morning.

I'm not from here, never saw the Sun Kings but I do like history........Ramon tells it like it was then and if you are not old enough to read or smart enough to care you will never learn from the mistakes of the past.
great

El Paso, TX

#22 Feb 7, 2010
Ramon has got it too old school!!!

If you are from El Chuco, Sundays are spent: At mass, then eating menudo, then spending the day watching sports or hanging out with friends and family somewhere outside listening to Mike Guerrero on 92.3 the Fox, all while drinking Bud Light or Budweiser, the official beer of El Chuco!!!
another generation

United States

#23 Feb 7, 2010
Let’s try another generation
You are from El Chuco if you used to go eat at Sbarro’s Pizza at cielo vista mall.
You drove up and down Montana on Sunday nights with all the other cars on the cruise.
You drove to George dieter and saw the end of the city, because it was all desert.
You could see the lake from the as you were on the skydiver at western playland.
Went to Chico’s tacos on McRae.
Went to Saint Pius when it was a small church with dark wood pews.
Went downtown to go to club 101 because it was the only club there.
Went to drink and drown at the Copa without having to worry about dying.
NueveUnoCinco

El Paso, TX

#24 Feb 7, 2010
So many good things to recall about EP and the memories that come with them. As a kid in the 70's:

-Budget Tapes and Records (the coolest vinyl store ever) and its sister store, the friendly neighborhood, mom-n-pop operation, Wee Tam.
-Epic rock concerts at The Barn, sometimes at The Civic Center, but the Coliseum was best.
-People's Emporium and their 'variety' of stuff.
-Happy's Arcade and buying a fake I.D. good enough for Juarez. Nickel and Dime Pinball Heaven.
-Red Rooster for bowling and pinball machines.
-Land of Oz at Cielo Vista with a pocket full of tokens.
-Opening boxes at Toys by Roy at a roofless Bassett Center.
-State, Palace and Plaza theaters, especially the Planet of The Apes marathon.
-"Doing sweet lunch" was a half-dozen at Goody Goody Donuts.
-Skateboarding and hanging out outside Ski West.
-Crossing the border back to EP from CdJ. on my banana seat bike and just saying "U.S. Citizen, Sir" to the inspector.

Thanks EP/Cd.J for those great years, the best of both worlds and oh so different.
El Chuco 56

Sacramento, CA

#25 Feb 7, 2010
I would add a few more:

Remember "Go Western" day in El Paso and dressing up to see the Rodeo at the Colisuem.

Remember "Lee Trevino" day at the Sun Bowl and the "Lee's Fleas" bumper stickers.
Remember Howel Eurich as "Pete the Projectionist" and later as Bozo the Clown. Remember his sidekick Snappy Pappy.
Remember having delicious Pizza at Como's next to the Plaza.
Remember Marce Galaviz doing "Probe".
Remember the filming of "The Getwaway" at the Oasis in El Paso with Steve McQueen and Ali McGraw.

And later, sadly remember the circus surrounding Steve McQeen's death in Juarez from Cancer while being treated at a "laetrile" clinic. Tabloids bought his autops photo.
Tony

United States

#26 Feb 7, 2010
We have to stop using "El Chuco" as a slang name for this city.
It serves us no benefit..only makes us look like a community of gang members and uneducated idiots.

NOBODY ever used that term to describe this city before the Latin Kings of Comedy show at the Convention Center about 5-7 years ago..Cheech Marin used the term 1 time in the show and all of a sudden it's the cool way to refer to El Paso.

Again we find ourselves "defined" by an outsider...when will we learn? when will we get serious about moving this community forward? when will we stop trying to make El Paso the new Juarez?

Nothing positive can come from this.

Gloria Flores Stewart

United States

#27 Feb 7, 2010
WOW....I really enjoyed reading this and it brought so many wonderful priceless memories back to me...a "El Chuco" original El Paso gal (now living in Sonoma County, California). NOTHING compares to those days...what a wonderful life I had in El Chuco!
David Garcia

Hampton, VA

#28 Feb 7, 2010
Tony wrote:
We have to stop using "El Chuco" as a slang name for this city.
It serves us no benefit..only makes us look like a community of gang members and uneducated idiots.
NOBODY ever used that term to describe this city before the Latin Kings of Comedy show at the Convention Center about 5-7 years ago..Cheech Marin used the term 1 time in the show and all of a sudden it's the cool way to refer to El Paso.
Again we find ourselves "defined" by an outsider...when will we learn? when will we get serious about moving this community forward? when will we stop trying to make El Paso the new Juarez?
Nothing positive can come from this.
You are wrong and you need to read up El Paso's history. The term dates from the early 1940's when pachucos used to roam the streets. You do know what a pachuco is right? For those who don't think zoot suits and other outlandish garb. The suit fad were picked up by the Chicanos in Los Angeles. The term is in deference to El Paso's history and contribution to Chicano history.
David Garcia

Hampton, VA

#29 Feb 7, 2010
NueveUnoCinco wrote:
So many good things to recall about EP and the memories that come with them. As a kid in the 70's:
-Budget Tapes and Records (the coolest vinyl store ever) and its sister store, the friendly neighborhood, mom-n-pop operation, Wee Tam.
-Epic rock concerts at The Barn, sometimes at The Civic Center, but the Coliseum was best.
-People's Emporium and their 'variety' of stuff.
-Happy's Arcade and buying a fake I.D. good enough for Juarez. Nickel and Dime Pinball Heaven.
-Red Rooster for bowling and pinball machines.
-Land of Oz at Cielo Vista with a pocket full of tokens.
-Opening boxes at Toys by Roy at a roofless Bassett Center.
-State, Palace and Plaza theaters, especially the Planet of The Apes marathon.
-"Doing sweet lunch" was a half-dozen at Goody Goody Donuts.
-Skateboarding and hanging out outside Ski West.
-Crossing the border back to EP from CdJ. on my banana seat bike and just saying "U.S. Citizen, Sir" to the inspector.
Thanks EP/Cd.J for those great years, the best of both worlds and oh so different.
Oh yeah, I member the 25 cent tickets at the State and watching Night of the Living Dead there with all the kids screaming at scary moments.
cabeza de vaca

El Paso, TX

#30 Feb 7, 2010
some people just dont get it....sucks for them.good article ,keep it up.
David Garcia

Hampton, VA

#31 Feb 7, 2010
Chimichanga wrote:
<quoted text>
You're wrong. It is La Bowie. I used to teach at La Jeff. That is how it is referred to. Although, its more like La Bwee, when pronounced.
Simón ese.
David Garcia

Hampton, VA

#32 Feb 7, 2010
great wrote:
Ramon has got it too old school!!!
If you are from El Chuco, Sundays are spent: At mass, then eating menudo, then spending the day watching sports or hanging out with friends and family somewhere outside listening to Mike Guerrero on 92.3 the Fox, all while drinking Bud Light or Budweiser, the official beer of El Chuco!!!
No ese, it was Coors or Falstaff. I listened to what my grandfather listened to, cause we had one kitchen radio.
David Garcia

Hampton, VA

#33 Feb 7, 2010
Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
This week’s column is a small improvement in that it is not completely inane, shallow and offensive to anyone with a brain. However it does very clearly show what a racist you and your kind are. People that attended other high Schools and had other activities (as well as those mentioned) had/have a big part of in this city and its culture. It is the prevalence of this kind of attitude that make an aging third generation El Paso bollio think that it is past time for Texas to cede El Paso county to either Mexico or New Mexico and be done with your nonsense
This is a Chicano thing burro and not a racist thing. Very few gabachos understand this, and if they do then they truly are from El Chuco as well. The traditionally white schools, like Coronado, and the ones near the base, were not part of this as much as the other high schools.
Christine

Rockdale, TX

#34 Feb 7, 2010
For those, offended by the Spanglish in Mr. Renteria's column, I'd ask you to step outside your doorway and look around you. You are surrounded by Mexican Americans who speak English, Spanish, and even Spanglish. Ramon is giving voice to 85 percent of the El Paso population and not just the 15 percent that usually gets represented in the newspaper. Thank you Mr. Renteria for giving Mexican Americans a voice in the newspaper.

My Dad went to La Jeff. There is definitely a "La" in Jefferson High School.

Christine Granados
getzky

Honolulu, HI

#35 Feb 7, 2010
ridiculous. this is why we cant even market ourselves outside of el paso. write something smart that resonates with people here and beyond el paso - something inspiring that may make someone come to our town, respect our town. I know this was for fun, but take advantage of these opportunities to make EL PASO shine, not el chuco.

“It's always sunny in El Paso.”

Since: Sep 08

El Paso, TX

#36 Feb 7, 2010
Nosotros tomamos pura Bud Light.

I'm surprised how upset people get every weekend when Ramon's column comes hits the world. Bola de mensos.

You're either from El Chuco or El Paso or both or neither. If you don't know, pues siga la flecha.

Let me just finish by saying that that was the most beautiful crowd last night on ESPN2. You gotta love it.

I don't know how this wonderful place has so many haters. Just wait till everyone's scrambling to live in El Paso.
tone

Rio Rancho, NM

#37 Feb 7, 2010
curious wrote:
i remember as a child when we went to el paso bus station in the 60,s, can somebody tell me if its still in the same place,if not where the building is located i want to go back and visit, im from new mexico.
hey curious< i am up here in Nm. where all the rats are. Check out the spiritual happenings over my crib.the video is self explanitory. i know its off the subject, but your from here and you should see this. Its at you tube "alien or demon spirits pacal 2012?
NETAGUEY

Austin, TX

#38 Feb 7, 2010
So where's the East side version before it turned into the filth pile that it is today?
motown califas

Modesto, CA

#39 Feb 7, 2010
La jeff, la sanna skulls, chicos tacos,Washington park,big boy ice cream.Lots of memories from el chuco.
Santa

El Paso, TX

#40 Feb 7, 2010
why do people call El Paso, "El Chuco" - it's so annoying and makes us sound like a dump or candy store...

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