is detroit becomming a death trap?

[Dan]

Mark wrote:

I can't help but notice that not one of you actually live in Detroit. Pontiac is quite aways from the city and Canada isn't even the same country.
I live in Detroit. All I see as far as crime is jay-walking, panhandling, and car windows broken on occasion. Crime happens. It happens in every city. It happens in Pontiac, it happens in Canada.
The causes of crime are many, but don't gimme that family values crap. The main factors that lead to high crime rates are systemic to wealth inequity, which is intrinsic to the capitalist economic system. The problem is larger than Detroit, larger than the local government. It's a flawed system that, by definition, requires inequality of wealth. How about you two try to properly identify the problem and do something constructive about it instead of bitching about a specific city with a rough reputation that neither of you happen to live in. Just a thought.

I see you live in Ypsilanti -- its about your web hosting local.

[gustafson]

what a pantload (as in Clinton)

jones02 wrote:

i have read all of the comments here and some are true and some i believe to be speculations first of all i was born in michigan i feel like it is a decent city other than your couple handfulls of knuckle heads and dumbasses but its like that in every city i feel like they our building detroit back up and people need to realize that you can not critisize something or anything that your not trying to fix why you are up here arguing back and forth have you took the time to think about your daily habits and what you might be doing to decrease the value of this city and as far as the comments coming from the outsiders from the burbs if detroit is so bad why do you come into the city each week to visit the events downtown if your so afraid of detroit stay in the burbs where you feel safe or shall i say dont come to the d to buy your crack then go back to the burbs to smoke it or dont come to the d to pick up your prostitues or come party in the new casinos you should be afraid to be robbed or something but yet week after week you are in the hotels casinos fishbones enjoying the downtown scence hell most of you work in the buildings downtown then you run back to the burbs but yet your saying detroit is bad but its not bad enough to party in just bad enough to live in thats a croc of shit all of you are sell outs and soon as the city is back on top you will come back as if you supported it or had something to do with it

[gustafson]

what a pantload! Kilpatrick or Clinton(eiher sex)

[American Defender]

You have to love the black leadership. It all started with Young. The city went down hill the minute Young took office. This is a prime example of black leadership. Just think America will look like Detroit if Obama is elected.

[naja7410]

Mark wrote:

I can't help but notice that not one of you actually live in Detroit. Pontiac is quite aways from the city and Canada isn't even the same country.
I live in Detroit. All I see as far as crime is jay-walking, panhandling, and car windows broken on occasion. Crime happens. It happens in every city. It happens in Pontiac, it happens in Canada.
The causes of crime are many, but don't gimme that family values crap. The main factors that lead to high crime rates are systemic to wealth inequity, which is intrinsic to the capitalist economic system. The problem is larger than Detroit, larger than the local government. It's a flawed system that, by definition, requires inequality of wealth. How about you two try to properly identify the problem and do something constructive about it instead of bitching about a specific city with a rough reputation that neither of you happen to live in. Just a thought.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT! I currently live in Detroit. It is messed up but its getting better. Slowly but still it is. The problem is no one knows the GOOD things and the parts of the city that are well kept. But that wouldn't make good headlines 4 the 6pm news I don't see drugs being sold on my block. We throw a block party EVERY summer as a way to get to know our fellow neighbors.Somethings the community can help on. But until our officials take the time to fix DETROIT in it's intirety and not just the parts that bring in money the progress of this community will contiunue on at a very slow rate of progress.

[JuicyJoo]

Oh Come on people! Detroit is just chock full of upstanding citizens! Hoo-wee! I TRIED to say that with a straight face! I really did!

[WinterNinjaa]

Thas right! Detroit is not all that bad. The media has never done any good for cities that have some problems. This is all we see and we tend to believe the media. WAKE UP! If you think they tell all of the truth then you are in for a big surprise..Everyone expects a change right away. This is the problem with our society. Change takes some time. Especially when it comes to crime and making cities better. Any city!

[born not raised there]

very sorry to know the city i was born and raised in until about 10 yrs old is such a dangerous place to live in. glad my mother pick us up and moved us out to the big apple. use to love to visit in the late 70s and early 80s its sad to hear and see that its not a safe place for me to want to come back and live with my kids. something i would have wanted to do. really hope the goverment or someone or something try and build the city back up. love detroit but couldnt live there because of the crime that has gone on for years.

[ytee]

detroit wouldn't be so bad without all those angry suburbanites infiltrating the ghettoes to commit crimes.

[722 blizok]

Is Detroit a Death Trap? Only if your the wrong demographics.

[The mailman sees all]

On what corner so the Prostitues hang out? I live near livernois and fort.

[Marquis Canaday]

Wrong, it is family values. Our economic structure has a lot to so with the moral responsibility which should be taught from parents. If you were raised correctly, well then, no matter how poor you are, you will never rob someone. Second, no one is forcing a person to smoke drugs or drink alcohol. Those are personal choices.

Another problem with Detroit is the culture. The ignorant hip hop and rap culture does not help. It does not promote education or respect for human life. In addition to that, people are too busy playing "victim" all the time. The "victim" role is reinforced by the voting habits of Black people in inner cities, in general.

[Marquis Canaday]

Ms_Precious1 wrote:

Yall r some hoes! This city is the shit don't get it twisted quit playing yall ain't never been harmed in the D so stop all the controversy If you ain't from here. I was raised on third street where we don't play so get ur facts straight.

Learn how to speak proper English. This is one reason why the educational standards from Detroit is the poorest.

[scabs]

Bunch of sub humans live there.

[Ancestor_Hunter]

Marquis Canaday wrote:

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Learn how to speak proper English. This is one reason why the educational standards from Detroit is the poorest.

You should take your own advice. "Standards" is plural and requires a plural verb. So it should read "standards from Detroit ARE the poorest."
No point in correcting someone else's errors with one of your own.

[Marquis Canaday]

Ancestor_Hunter wrote:

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You should take your own advice. "Standards" is plural and requires a plural verb. So it should read "standards from Detroit ARE the poorest."
No point in correcting someone else's errors with one of your own.

You know what I meant. So it is no point in attacking me because I spoke the truth. Now get lost.

[Ancestor_Hunter]

Marquis Canaday wrote:

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You know what I meant. So it is no point in attacking me because I spoke the truth. Now get lost.

It makes no sense to correct a poster's English when your own grammar/spelling is lacking. If you're going to criticize someone's English, then be more careful with your own language skills. Truth or untruth is beside the point.

Get lost? Aren't you the polite one? Oh well, AA always did have it's share of snobs and elitists.

[Marquis Canaday]

Ancestor_Hunter wrote:

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It makes no sense to correct a poster's English when your own grammar/spelling is lacking. If you're going to criticize someone's English, then be more careful with your own language skills. Truth or untruth is beside the point.
Get lost? Aren't you the polite one? Oh well, AA always did have it's share of snobs and elitists.

lol

idiot

This person is upset because of the low test scores the city of Detroit receives.

Now I shall use "bad English"

Hey dawg, you'ze gotta undastand wha I be sayin' cuz I be right all the time.

[Marquis Canaday]

I am back in this hole called Detroit after being in lovely Ann Arbor since December 2007.

I have not missed the crack heads, the thugs which fill the porches of shabby - looking homes, trashy filled lots and dead decaying smells of animals.

But one person said that Detroit does have it bright spots. I would suggest where Hockeytown is located. That would be in the vicinity of Comerica Park and Ford Field. I can also say that the Outer Drive/Schafer area is pretty kept up. The area where the Detroit mayor lives and the Boston/Edison street area is kept up pretty well too. Just do not venture out too far, or else you will be bombarded by crack heads, thugs, dealers, prostitutes from the Woodward street area and shabby - looking loose Pitt Bulls.

Overall, the city of Detroit became a disaster zone after the 12th Street Riots. From that point on, White Flight and urban decay is what happened.

[Ancestor_Hunter]

Marquis Canaday wrote:

I am back in this hole called Detroit after being in lovely Ann Arbor since December 2007.
I have not missed the crack heads, the thugs which fill the porches of shabby - looking homes, trashy filled lots and dead decaying smells of animals.
But one person said that Detroit does have it bright spots. I would suggest where Hockeytown is located. That would be in the vicinity of Comerica Park and Ford Field. I can also say that the Outer Drive/Schafer area is pretty kept up. The area where the Detroit mayor lives and the Boston/Edison street area is kept up pretty well too. Just do not venture out too far, or else you will be bombarded by crack heads, thugs, dealers, prostitutes from the Woodward street area and shabby - looking loose Pitt Bulls.
Overall, the city of Detroit became a disaster zone after the 12th Street Riots. From that point on, White Flight and urban decay is what happened.

With the exception of your first paragraph, I could just have easily written this post myself.
I got out of Detroit in 2002 and don't miss living there one bit.
However, I agree with everything else you've said.
The riots in '67 were the beginning of the end for Detroit. No sense repeating your comments, except to say you are right on the money with this post.