Voter disdain spreads as 'fiscal cliff' looms

Dec 11, 2012 Read more: WTOP-FM Washington 58

Fear and frustration course through the lunch crowd at Robie's Country Store and Deli, a popular outpost 500 miles from where Washington is again locked in tense negotiations over taxes and spending as a critical deadline looms.

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GhostofRaygun

Russellville, KY

#22 Dec 11, 2012
reality wrote:
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Socialist-in-Chief Obama's mantra - Raise taxes on the "rich"
__________
Q) Other than Federal and State Governments, WHO owns and or runs the majority of American businesses?
A) The "rich"
Q)If Obama is successful in his current quest to raise taxes on "the rich", what will many "rich" decide to do?
A) In order to cut necessary costs in order to salvage their businesses they'll lay off many of their "not-so-rich" employees
Q) How do most "rich" people in America accumulate their wealth?
A) By getting good educations, generally not doing things that are self-destructive, being entreprenuers, and most importantly learning how to save and invest for their and their family's futures.
Q) What will likely happen in America if Obama is successful in his fight to raise taxes?
A) Increasing numbers of "rich" are going to discover that the United States of America is a HOSTILE place to run a successful business. This trend can already be seen in the medical fields as increasing numbers of American doctors have decided to pack up and set up shop in places such as Australia, New Zealand, Japan, India and China.
To summarize...
What Obama's doing right at this very moment is speeding up America's progress toward global insignificance.
America has tried the lowest tax rates in it's history for 10 years now. How'd all that work out in paying the bills? Romney and thousands more like him pay less Federal Taxes than most people working everyday. How's that helping out America?
S-N-A-F-U

Sierra Vista, AZ

#23 Dec 11, 2012
F U B A R wrote:
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You're not very funny but then conservatives seldom are.
It wasn't meant to be funny -- but a glimpse into reality....

“It's Time to Defeat Terrorism ”

Level 1

Since: May 11

NYC

#24 Dec 11, 2012
Obama deceitful, anti-constitutional and immoral election campaign of bribe and stealing the conservative Whites tax to give free Obama checks to buy votes of the Blacks, Hispanic, Asians including students that failed to pay their loans and home buyers that failed to pay their mortgage and illegals that enjoyed Obama's Amnesty does not mean that Obama won the election. Obama won the election with the most immoral and anti-American policy that aimed at pushing America to bankruptcy while sending hundreds of billions of the stimulus to by votes of the losers in America including 17 million willingly unemployed that refuse to get a job and 9 million fake disable Americans that decided to leave their job and enjoy Obama free check for life. The liberal socialistic corruption of Obama and his Union parasites and effort to destroy America by bribing the illiterate and failed Americans in return for their votes does not means that Obama plan to push America over the cliff is what the American people want. It is time to prevent from bribed voters that do not have a job and live like parasites on the back of the hard working conservatives to lose their votes since they do not pay taxes and live like parasites that demand more and more money from the hard working Americans. The fact that Obama represent the views of the worst enemies of America that seek its demise should worry every American who love his country and is concern about losing America to socialist dictator and Jihadist Mozlem Brother Madrassa scholar who seek the destruction of America.
USA Huh

Virginia Beach, VA

#25 Dec 11, 2012
All across the world the brave women and men of the US armed forces serve. No break for weekends in Afghanistan.
As the fiscal cliff looms, congress and the senate take the weekend off.
just another guy

United States

#26 Dec 11, 2012
GhostofRaygun wrote:
<quoted text>America has tried the lowest tax rates in it's history for 10 years now. How'd all that work out in paying the bills? Romney and thousands more like him pay less Federal Taxes than most people working everyday. How's that helping out America?
We would be in even worse shape if tax rates were higher. It was the bush recession instead of the bush depression.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#27 Dec 12, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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We were losing 800,000 jobs a month when Obama was sworn in, and major corporations that employ millions were at the brink of going under. Couldn't save them all but enough were turned around to prevent the nation from going into a depression. We now have an ever increasing job rate.
Of course we still have the 13-trillion debt Obama inherited that he is dealing with and has the methods to get it paid down. The GOP has done everything imaginable to make him fail but he keeps on acheiving positive growth despite the naysayers from the right who obstruct at every move.
The unfounded attacks from the right are more than anything responsible for his getting re-elected. It is why they are trying to change their tune so that the GOP does not suffer further defeat in 2014 and 2016. It is very doubtful that the right-wing base will let them change their tune, witness the clueless comments right here. So given no let up with the unfounded attacks from the right it is victory and super majority for Democrats in 2014 and 2016, with right-wingers NEVER realizing they did it to themselves.
Obamaton, too bad that the fact checkers don't agree with your Democratic talking points propaganda.
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/04/obamas-war-o...
"Romney, April 11: He [Obama] has lost 800,000 jobs during his presidency. And by the way, do you know what percentage of those jobs lost were lost by women? Over 92 percent of the jobs lost under this president were lost by women. His policies have been, really, a war on women.
Romney’s statistic is accurate. It’s true, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that between January 2009, when Obama took office, and March 2012, there has been a net decline of 740,000 jobs for both men and women, and that among women there has been a net loss of 683,000 jobs. The Romney campaign did the math and calculated that 92.3 percent of the jobs lost under Obama were lost by women."
...
"By the time Obama took office in January 2009, both male and female employment were in a steep decline that continued for over a year. Male employment hit bottom in February 2010, and female employment continued to slump for another seven months, bottoming out in September 2010. And as the chart clearly shows, the job recovery for women not only started later, the rate of recovery has been slower.
Why is that?“If you look back to the start of the recession, many of the industries (construction and manufacturing) that were very hard hit initially were male-dominated,” said Margot Dorfman, CEO of the U.S. Women’s Chamber of Commerce, in an interview with FactCheck.org .
It wasn’t until later that jobs like retail and government jobs, particularly teaching jobs, began to take a hit, affecting women more, Dorfman said. Those jobs have been slower to recover."
"The only problem with Biden’s history lesson is that the “man with steel in his spine” he referred to should have been George W. Bush, not Barack Obama. Lest we forget, it was Bush rather than Obama who initiated the government rescue of the auto companies.
Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncas... ;
To be continued to disprove the many Democratic lies.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#29 Dec 12, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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Presidential Inaugurations are traditionally paid by donations. If we the people were paying with our tax payments you'd be bitching about that.
Grassroots are Obama's biggest contributors.
Obama has accepted less from corporations than any other President over past fifty-years. Even his campaign donations from corporations and the ultra-rich were almost fifty-percent less than Romney's.
Oh gee your Messiah lied once again! Missed reading this?

"The decision, first reported by Politico, underscores how the president’s stated desire to limit the influence of money and politics can at times create friction with the practical need of quickly financing large political events.

“To help cover the cost of the public events, the 2013 Presidential Inaugural Committee will be accepting contributions from individual and institutional donors in compliance with the laws governing contributions to an Inaugural Committee,” said Addie Whisenant, the committee’s spokeswoman.“The PIC will not be accepting donations from lobbyists or PACs and will not be entering into any sponsorship agreements with individuals or corporations.”



7 Lies In Under 2 Minutes

Your Messiah loves pulling the wool over your eyes, right?
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#30 Dec 12, 2012
Jeff Brightone wrote:
Obama deceitful, anti-constitutional and immoral election campaign of bribe and stealing the conservative Whites tax to give free Obama checks to buy votes of the Blacks, Hispanic, Asians including students that failed to pay their loans and home buyers that failed to pay their mortgage and illegals that enjoyed Obama's Amnesty does not mean that Obama won the election. Obama won the election with the most immoral and anti-American policy that aimed at pushing America to bankruptcy while sending hundreds of billions of the stimulus to by votes of the losers in America including 17 million willingly unemployed that refuse to get a job and 9 million fake disable Americans that decided to leave their job and enjoy Obama free check for life. The liberal socialistic corruption of Obama and his Union parasites and effort to destroy America by bribing the illiterate and failed Americans in return for their votes does not means that Obama plan to push America over the cliff is what the American people want. It is time to prevent from bribed voters that do not have a job and live like parasites on the back of the hard working conservatives to lose their votes since they do not pay taxes and live like parasites that demand more and more money from the hard working Americans. The fact that Obama represent the views of the worst enemies of America that seek its demise should worry every American who love his country and is concern about losing America to socialist dictator and Jihadist Mozlem Brother Madrassa scholar who seek the destruction of America.
I don't know if I would be as harsh as you on Obama, but his policies are certainly not for Americans and he has used tons of dirty tricks / pool to get elected. Plus the MSM has not done anything, but to aid him in his lies and propaganda!
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#31 Dec 12, 2012
USA Huh wrote:
All across the world the brave women and men of the US armed forces serve. No break for weekends in Afghanistan.
As the fiscal cliff looms, congress and the senate take the weekend off.
And our commander-in-chief soon to be vacationing in Hawaii while he
lets the fiscal cliff to fall. Why is he so anti-American?

“Obama Shames the USA”

Level 1

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#33 Dec 12, 2012
Obama is a pussyfaggot pillow fighter.
just another guy

Saint Louis, MO

#35 Dec 12, 2012
yup wrote:
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Obama is your Lord & Master.
Kneel and kiss the tip of the executive pork sword.
Umm no, perv. Feel free to live out your fantasy. Just keep it to yourself.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#36 Dec 12, 2012
yup wrote:
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It’s your Republican-controlled house of reps that keeps holding the health of the U.S. economy hostage over their petty partisan BS.
Why do you douche-bags support these economic terrorists?
Oh wait – that question answers itself. lol
Sweetheart, no petty partisan BS as most small business are at the $250,000 level and taxes would destroy any inspiration to do better. But hey we all can see that the Democrats don't care about making more jobs for the true middle class and not the unions. You are right I don't know why the Democrats are being such douche-bags supporting economic terrorism. Oh wait – that question answers itself. lol Right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/obam...

" President Barack Obama's plan to increase taxes on top earners would have only a small impact on the nation's economy, according to congressional budget experts. But don't tell that to small business owners facing a tax hike.

Obama's proposal would hit about 940,000 people who report business income on their individual or household returns, says the Joint Committee on Taxation, the official scorekeeper for Congress. That's only 3.5 percent of the people who report business income, but those business owners are projected to earn 53 percent of the $1.3 trillion in business income that will be reported on individual returns next year.

That, Republicans in Congress argue, makes those business owners an important engine for economic growth and job creation.

They recite it as gospel: Paying higher taxes will reduce the amount of profits business owners would otherwise re-invest in their companies, making them less likely to expand and hire more workers. Many economists agree that tax increases in general limit economic growth. But there are big disagreements about magnitude – how much relatively small changes in the top two income tax rates would affect the economy and job creation."
...
"Under Obama's plan, the 33 percent tax rate would rise to 36 percent on taxable income above $231,000 for a married couple filing jointly. The top tax rate would increase from 35 percent to 39.6 percent on taxable income above $397,000.

Obama's plan also would phase out the personal exemption and gradually reduce itemized deductions for individuals making more than $200,000 and married couples making more than $250,000. The top capital gains tax rate would rise from 15 percent to 20 percent. Qualified dividends, which are now taxed at a top rate of 15 percent, would be taxed as ordinary income for top earners, or at a top rate of 39.6 percent.

That, some business owners complain, would leave them with less money to hire new workers or keep the ones they have.

"We're trying to encourage people to go out and hire and take risks," said Brian Reardon, executive director of the S Corporation Association. "If you are reducing the marginal value, you are reducing the incentives for folks to take that risk."

An S corporations is a common business structure in which profits flow directly to shareholders who report the income on their individual tax returns.

Business owners note that they often pay taxes on profits they don't necessarily receive. For example, if you borrow money to start or expand your business, you can use some of your profits to repay the loan, but only the interest portion of the loan payment is tax deductible.

When business owners use profits to buy new equipment or make other upgrades, it often takes several years to write off the cost of those upgrades, depending on depreciation rules."
just another guy

United States

#37 Dec 13, 2012
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL License Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Tax
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

It is a spending problem, not a tax problem.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#38 Dec 14, 2012
just another guy wrote:
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL License Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Tax
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
It is a spending problem, not a tax problem.
We already know that Obama is willing to tax all Americans to death.
just another guy

United States

#39 Dec 14, 2012
OH NO YOU Did not wrote:
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We already know that Obama is willing to tax all Americans to death.
There are a few exceptions. His donors and partners in crime. It is ok for geithner to skip paying taxes.
Pork Chop

Ashburn, VA

#41 Dec 14, 2012
yup wrote:
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We already know that you’re an utter retard with no facts to support your inane babble.
Yep, agree. Dude's one of the people I don't even bother replying to. Ya can't fix stupid. Why bother trying?
the rest of us

Saint Paul, MN

#42 Dec 14, 2012
yup wrote:
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We already know that you’re an utter retard with no facts to support your inane babble.
And we already know you're not bright enough to be posting on here, fartsack.
the rest of us

Saint Paul, MN

#43 Dec 14, 2012
Pork Chop wrote:
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Yep, agree. Dude's one of the people I don't even bother replying to. Ya can't fix stupid. Why bother trying?
Hook up with the moron yup and go on a road trip if either one of you is capable of owning a car. Just don't hurt anyone.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#44 Dec 14, 2012
just another guy wrote:
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There are a few exceptions. His donors and partners in crime. It is ok for geithner to skip paying taxes.
You mean like the "unions" as he exempted them from much of the tax bill called Obamacare.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#45 Dec 14, 2012
yup wrote:
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We already know that you’re an utter retard with no facts to support your inane babble.
It is inane babble to you because you are a liberal and as proven on topix that liberals can not read plain English because of their bigoted bias hatred of anyone that disagrees with them.

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