Parker Neighbors Feud Over Wind Chimes

Jan 10, 2008 | Posted by: Chazz | Full story: www.thedenverchannel.com

At 7:30 on a Wednesday night, you can hear David Ford's wind chimes flapping in the wind, but the airplane flying overhead sounds louder.

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“Poke the bear at your own risk”

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Jan 10, 2008
 
What a bunch of crap! Do the neighbors complain about the airplane noise & call the cops on the airlines? Screw them, if they don't like it move. The HOA is just as screwed up, where is their balls to stand up to these whiney little nosey too much time on their hands idiot people?!??!

Unreal! I will never ever ever be a part of an HOA, talk about Nazi's!

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Jan 10, 2008
 
The Iggy wrote:
What a bunch of crap! Do the neighbors complain about the airplane noise & call the cops on the airlines? Screw them, if they don't like it move. The HOA is just as screwed up, where is their balls to stand up to these whiney little nosey too much time on their hands idiot people?!??!
Unreal! I will never ever ever be a part of an HOA, talk about Nazi's!
I agree, what a joke!
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Jan 11, 2008
 
As "inane" as this whole thing sounds, my husband & I, living in TX, can (unfortuately) relate. We have people living next to us who hung huge Westminster-sounding chimes (5-6 sets) all down the side of their house that is closest to our bedroom window (about 5-7 feet away). I kid you not, we were kept awake for many nights when the Texas winds blew. Cops here, though, said there wasn't anything they could / would do. We asked the neighbors nicely to please take down the ones that were on our side of the house ... none of the others bothered us. But they flat REFUSED ... even bought more to hang up when they found out it bothered us!! As far as the HOA (which was not involved in our case), when you buy property subject to HOA / restrictions / covenants, you are agreeing to abide by whatever is in that document. Don't like what's there? Don't buy the place!!

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Since: Dec 07

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Jan 11, 2008
 
Cyndi wrote:
As "inane" as this whole thing sounds, my husband & I, living in TX, can (unfortuately) relate. We have people living next to us who hung huge Westminster-sounding chimes (5-6 sets) all down the side of their house that is closest to our bedroom window (about 5-7 feet away). I kid you not, we were kept awake for many nights when the Texas winds blew. Cops here, though, said there wasn't anything they could / would do. We asked the neighbors nicely to please take down the ones that were on our side of the house ... none of the others bothered us. But they flat REFUSED ... even bought more to hang up when they found out it bothered us!! As far as the HOA (which was not involved in our case), when you buy property subject to HOA / restrictions / covenants, you are agreeing to abide by whatever is in that document. Don't like what's there? Don't buy the place!!
Get up in the middle of the night and rip them down if they bother you. Your neighbors are pushing it. A decoration on the front of the house is one thing, your problem sounds different.

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Jan 11, 2008
 
Cyndi wrote:
As "inane" as this whole thing sounds, my husband & I, living in TX, can (unfortuately) relate. We have people living next to us who hung huge Westminster-sounding chimes (5-6 sets) all down the side of their house that is closest to our bedroom window (about 5-7 feet away). I kid you not, we were kept awake for many nights when the Texas winds blew. Cops here, though, said there wasn't anything they could / would do. We asked the neighbors nicely to please take down the ones that were on our side of the house ... none of the others bothered us. But they flat REFUSED ... even bought more to hang up when they found out it bothered us!! As far as the HOA (which was not involved in our case), when you buy property subject to HOA / restrictions / covenants, you are agreeing to abide by whatever is in that document. Don't like what's there? Don't buy the place!!
Exactly why I refuse to ever be part of an HOA. Sad to say almost all new developements are HOA's thus not leaving very many other options.

Sorry to hear your neighbors were so rude, but I do have to agree that the police have no business whatsoever getting involved over wind chimes. Noisey parties, yes, wind chimes, no. If I were your neighbor I would have been neighborly & taken them down, but that is me, I like to be a nice person.

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Once again I am both Stunned and Amazed.

I am Stunned that anyone would raise such a fuss about wind chimes.

And I am Amazed that someone who lives in that neighborhood is uneducated about the benefits of wind chimes.

That neighborhood is relatively new, it sits on a golf course, the Canterbury, and I think that wind chimes should be the least of their worries. I donít live on that particular golf course community but having lived on one I can tell you the biggest concern is listening to golfers curse because they didnít sink their putt, or having your house hit by a golf ball and even an occasional drunk golfer with a small bladder relieving himself out in the middle of the fairway.
With that being said, wind chimes are peaceful by comparison. It has been proven that wind chimes are very therapeutic. They calm the nerves, they provide a peaceful background chime while you work or play outside. There is also evidence to prove that the sound from a wind chime improves health and has been said that the gentle sound will comfort a stressed mind. They are beneficial for people who have high blood pressure or heart problems, if you sit and listen to them, they will encourage total relaxation. Many of us donít think about the positive effects wind chimes have on us and I think that is what there neighbors are unaware of, the positive health benefits.
Cyndi

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Jan 12, 2008
 
Stunned & Amazed wrote, "... wind chimes are peaceful by comparison. It has been proven that wind chimes are very therapeutic. They calm the nerves, they provide a peaceful background chime while you work or play outside." Yes, during the day, they're fine, but at 2 a.m. when the wind picks up, they can be downright ANNOYING. And these are not little tinkle-bell sounding chimes, these compare to the bells at Westminster Abbey!!

"There is also evidence to prove that the sound from a wind chime improves health and has been said that the gentle sound will comfort a stressed mind." Again, if it were a "gentle" sound ...

And getting up & ripping them down in the middle of the night would only get US arrested for trespassing. These neighbors respect the rights of NO ONE ... it will be over, though, when it is over.

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Cyndi wrote:
Stunned & Amazed wrote, "... wind chimes are peaceful by comparison. It has been proven that wind chimes are very therapeutic. They calm the nerves, they provide a peaceful background chime while you work or play outside." Yes, during the day, they're fine, but at 2 a.m. when the wind picks up, they can be downright ANNOYING. And these are not little tinkle-bell sounding chimes, these compare to the bells at Westminster Abbey!!
"There is also evidence to prove that the sound from a wind chime improves health and has been said that the gentle sound will comfort a stressed mind." Again, if it were a "gentle" sound ...
And getting up & ripping them down in the middle of the night would only get US arrested for trespassing. These neighbors respect the rights of NO ONE ... it will be over, though, when it is over.
If you can't work with your neighbors and you don't have the courage to solve it yourself, I guess you should learn to live with it or move then.

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Since: Oct 07

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Jan 12, 2008
 
I have to "chime in" on this one for a number of reasons. First... I have a set of windchimes right outside my door that drives me crazy.... and secondly, because I have dealt with so many HOA's and local ordinances in my line of work.

I think wind-chimes probably are theraputic for the person who hangs them up and chooses to listen. But for anyone who didn't want it, or doesn't like that particular chime, it is as far from theraputic as you can get. It would only increase blood pressure and all kinds of other things. So that is a 2-edged sword!

I have not asked my neighbors to take it down, because they only have one and I am rarely home and if they enjoy it enough to buy it and hang it up, then I can tolerate the few times I hear it. BUT....(no wait.. it is outside my bedroom) well... I don't hear it much in my house, unless its totally quiet and its not in direct wind, so it only goes off some of the time. If I had them outside my window, especially a whole fleet of them like that other poster, I would be far more aggressive about it. Perhaps they would learn to enjoy my air-horn moon-light ensemble (but only when I'm away).

So 2 quick opinions.

1.) If you belong to an HOA and complain... I don't give a @$# because you joined. I would NEVER join one. You don't really own your home in an HOA and that is what they are created for. People of like mind who want a certain standard of living, whatever that may be. You have to abide by their rules, whether it is painting your house, not putting things in your windows, fixing a car outside... whatever. Nobody MADE you live there... so I'm sorry, but you chose the problem.

2.) For all the others who have issues... there is recourse, even if the police will not do anything (and I think you could challenge them to test it for violation of a noise ordinance at least). You can go to your local town/city hall and see if there is any local ordinance (that's where these kinds of issues are dealt with) and if there is, great. If not, try to get one passed. If your argument is reasonable, you should be able to get it heard or possibly implemented (and then the code enforcement officer WILL do something about it).

There are plenty of people who abuse ordinances too, both ways... but someone hanging up 6 wind-chimes outside your bedroom window in the direct wind is obviously overstepping the "be a good neighbor" rule. Would I take matters into my own hands if no one else would? Well.... you have to realize you are asking for a war at that point and there may be pretty serious consequences. I would try to reason with them. But if you really think its worth it... then... I suppose "arrangements" could be made while you are on a long weekend vacation somewhere verifiable *wink..wink..* to have neighbor kids (from someone elses neighborhood far, far away) pay a late night visit to your house to ensure that everything is ok. It would be terrible if they found that someone had cut down and removed each wind-chime, while simultaneously damaging the 99 cent flower pots you just bought at Wal-Mart prior to leaving.

Just be advised... these kinds of things have literally led to murder if you push either neighbor too far.

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And while all this is going on the government moves forward to tap more phones, categorize your book borrowing privileges, watch what you buy, and issue these amazingly cool Homeland Security ID cards.

Stop bitching about wind chimes and go storm your local government building will you? Oh, your favorite show is on? Sorry. Mine too. See ya later at the grocery store. ;-)

How are you all tonight?

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Since: Oct 07

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Jan 12, 2008
 
Lillith: I honestly believe that Americans would be more likely to take to the streets over TV privileges and HOA issues than the loss of our freedom/liberty. Its a sad, sad time for our country. I suppose its fortunate it won't last very long.

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Lillith: I honestly believe that Americans would be more likely to take to the streets over TV privileges and HOA issues than the loss of our freedom/liberty. Its a sad, sad time for our country. I suppose its fortunate it won't last very long.
Not sure about the fortunate or unfortunate nature of whatever will end. If you think some of us are suffering now, wait until then. I don't believe a WWIII will come, but like a zit something is going to pop.

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Jan 12, 2008
 
Oxyclean em!!!

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Jan 12, 2008
 
er... exycute em?

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er... exycute em?
Lol! Indeed....

It's so pathetic though that a neighbor can't just call up another neighbor and say, "Hey, your wind chimes are keeping me awake," and have the other people graciously move them to the other side of the house until those neighbors complain. WTF is wrong with people?

Seriously, when I was a kid that was how things were handled. Now that people sue others for looking crooked at their dog and dumb stuff like that it seems like we need HOAs just to keep people from killing each other.

Someone here said that the HOA owns the home anyway. Is that really true, and doesn't it sound a little like Warren Jeffs' group? No offense meant to fundamentalist Mormons on this board, BTW.

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Lilliths Spawn wrote:
And while all this is going on the government moves forward to tap more phones, categorize your book borrowing privileges, watch what you buy, and issue these amazingly cool Homeland Security ID cards.
Stop bitching about wind chimes and go storm your local government building will you? Oh, your favorite show is on? Sorry. Mine too. See ya later at the grocery store. ;-)
How are you all tonight?
LMAO "Stop bitching about wind chimes..." THAT'S the best comment thus far! I read the letter's to the editor of the daily rag where I work, and they complain about the stupidest things when there is so much more to discuss in that community. I don't live there, but work there so that's the paper I get with lunch.

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Lilliths Spawn wrote:
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Lol! Indeed....
It's so pathetic though that a neighbor can't just call up another neighbor and say, "Hey, your wind chimes are keeping me awake," and have the other people graciously move them to the other side of the house until those neighbors complain. WTF is wrong with people?
Seriously, when I was a kid that was how things were handled. Now that people sue others for looking crooked at their dog and dumb stuff like that it seems like we need HOAs just to keep people from killing each other.
Someone here said that the HOA owns the home anyway. Is that really true, and doesn't it sound a little like Warren Jeffs' group? No offense meant to fundamentalist Mormons on this board, BTW.
Sad to say an HOA can make you comply with their rules or make you sell your home. You own it yes, but you have to pay dues to the HOA as well, you have no choice if you join one. The HOA dues can change without your consent if the "board" decides that this or that is going to be done, paving roads, security gates, exterior remodel, remodel of common areas. One of guys my hubby works with is near work in a condo, he had to take a 2nd mortgage out on his property to pay for the Assessed Exterior Remodel costs the HOA board had approved. Individual owners are at the mercy of the powers on the HOA board. He didn't have a choice, he didn't have $30,000 laying around. Sad, but another good reason to never ever ever be part of an HOA. ESPECIALLY a condo, this is my humble opinion and only one small example of HOA evil.

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Imagine the power of government, in the hands of local idiots, directed right at you, with dozens of spies, 24 hours a day. THAT is an HOA!!!

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Mike Snyder wrote:
Imagine the power of government, in the hands of local idiots, directed right at you, with dozens of spies, 24 hours a day. THAT is an HOA!!!
Oh hell yeah! I lived in Highlands Ranch and saw their spies out--their license plates were covered up and they went charging around the neighborhood in their disguises with their clipboards looking into windows, over fences, and writing constantly.

I got out of there as fast as I could.
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My nasty neighbors put up huge wind chimes right next to my home. I hate them.

I have a right to a peaceful home. Any body who puts out wind chimes that their neighbors can hear is a narcissistic scumbag

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