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Since: Apr 07

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#1 Jan 23, 2008
Did your bill double since December?
wondering

Parker, CO

#3 Jan 24, 2008
Warm Feeling wrote:
No, to offset the ever increasing expense of Xcel's greed, I purchased a pellet stove 3 years ago and keep my house at a comfortable 74 degrees. The pellets are cheaper than natural gas and are a renewable resource. Of course if to many people get pellet stoves the laws of supply and demand will drive the price up. Probably get screwed again.
I've seen the bags of pellets, how long does one of those bags last? My husband and I have been looking into a pellet stove.
wondering

Parker, CO

#5 Jan 24, 2008
Warm Feeling wrote:
<quoted text>Depends on the temperature and how well your house is insulated. In my situation, if the temp is below 10 degrees overnight, my Breckwell Big "E" will burn approx. 1 -40 lb. bag per day. On milder days , 1 -40 lb. bag of pellets will last 2-3 days. Although my Breckwell pellet stove is quite nice, a friend of mine has a Quadrafire stove which he purchased at McGuckens in Boulder. It is the most technologically advanced pellet stove on the market, as is reflected in its cost. Also, purchasing pellets by the ton lowers the cost per bag by about a dollar, compared to buying individual bags.
Thanks. Can you burn your stove on red days?
spaulding

Denver, CO

#7 Jan 24, 2008
We can all blame it on Xcel but let's not forget the fact that that idiot Ritter is making xcel go green with less efficient wind and solar power and WE get to foot the bill. Thanks Ritter
spaulding

Denver, CO

#8 Jan 24, 2008
Warm Feeling wrote:
<quoted text>Depends on the temperature and how well your house is insulated. In my situation, if the temp is below 10 degrees overnight, my Breckwell Big "E" will burn approx. 1 -40 lb. bag per day. On milder days , 1 -40 lb. bag of pellets will last 2-3 days. Although my Breckwell pellet stove is quite nice, a friend of mine has a Quadrafire stove which he purchased at McGuckens in Boulder. It is the most technologically advanced pellet stove on the market, as is reflected in its cost. Also, purchasing pellets by the ton lowers the cost per bag by about a dollar, compared to buying individual bags.
Out of curiousity, how much is a 40 pound bag?

“I miss you T!”

Since: Sep 07

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#9 Jan 24, 2008
WGSD Gal wrote:
Did your bill double since December?
YEP!

“I miss you T!”

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#11 Jan 24, 2008
spaulding wrote:
We can all blame it on Xcel but let's not forget the fact that that idiot Ritter is making xcel go green with less efficient wind and solar power and WE get to foot the bill. Thanks Ritter
I am wondering if this has to do with the pipeline they just finished going out east? I wasn't expecting the increase so soon!

“Poke the bear at your own risk”

Since: Sep 07

Fort Lupton, CO

#14 Jan 24, 2008
GSXR Chick wrote:
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I am wondering if this has to do with the pipeline they just finished going out east? I wasn't expecting the increase so soon!
I was under the same impression. Saw a story on the news the other night saying that our prices would increase to pay for the gas line to Ohio. Why? Shouldn't the people in Ohio pay for it? and the states in between?

On the xcel bill question, my energy bill (gas/elec) From Xcel double in Dec from $102 in Nov to $201 in Dec. Jan's bill only went up $60 but it has been BUTT cold. I am not sure my space heater use last week was included in that. 7 days waiting for parts for my furnace, UGH! I won't be thrilled about it next month I am sure.

“I miss you T!”

Since: Sep 07

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#15 Jan 24, 2008
The Iggy wrote:
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I was under the same impression. Saw a story on the news the other night saying that our prices would increase to pay for the gas line to Ohio. Why? Shouldn't the people in Ohio pay for it? and the states in between?
On the xcel bill question, my energy bill (gas/elec) From Xcel double in Dec from $102 in Nov to $201 in Dec. Jan's bill only went up $60 but it has been BUTT cold. I am not sure my space heater use last week was included in that. 7 days waiting for parts for my furnace, UGH! I won't be thrilled about it next month I am sure.
Damn, and I was complaining that mine was $139 for last month, it doubled from Nov, which was only $70ish...I am so glad the previous owners put in a 96% efficient furnace! I couldn't afford $200 a month!
spaulding

Denver, CO

#16 Jan 24, 2008
Warm Feeling wrote:
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At present, when purchased by the ton, the cost per ton was $224.00 or $4.49 per bag. My last purchase was at the new Lowes in Brighton. Curiously that Lowes was cheaper than the Lowes in Thornton. The brand of pellets was Prestolog, which burn the hottest and cleanest of all the different brands I've tried.
Wow, that's reaaly low. Can they make the pellets out of the beetle kill timber?

“Poke the bear at your own risk”

Since: Sep 07

Fort Lupton, CO

#17 Jan 24, 2008
GSXR Chick wrote:
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Damn, and I was complaining that mine was $139 for last month, it doubled from Nov, which was only $70ish...I am so glad the previous owners put in a 96% efficient furnace! I couldn't afford $200 a month!
The house is ok as far as insulation, we keep the windows covered in plastic, but the manufactured home and the cold temps only do so much. LOL

I need new windows, exterior doors and to reinsulate under the house. That would do wonders for the energy efficiency. But alas I don't have the money for all of it at once. Under the house will be first, then the 2 doors and a few years down the road (when I recover) the windows.

The price I pay to live up here for sure, but I have seen much larger bills from others who live in the really old houses (circa 1888) Theirs are higher than mine or they just heat with wood.
spaulding

Denver, CO

#20 Jan 24, 2008
Maybe you burn a bit more but what if the prove was substantially lower. There might be a problem with soot build up due to the high sap content. Would that be a problem? Too many questions, but I am curious.

“I miss you T!”

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#21 Jan 24, 2008
The Iggy wrote:
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The house is ok as far as insulation, we keep the windows covered in plastic, but the manufactured home and the cold temps only do so much. LOL
I need new windows, exterior doors and to reinsulate under the house. That would do wonders for the energy efficiency. But alas I don't have the money for all of it at once. Under the house will be first, then the 2 doors and a few years down the road (when I recover) the windows.
The price I pay to live up here for sure, but I have seen much larger bills from others who live in the really old houses (circa 1888) Theirs are higher than mine or they just heat with wood.
Yeah, I need new windows also, the previous owners replaced five in the front of the house, which really keeps the cold out, but the ones in the family room and bedroom downstairs are pretty bad. I put plastic over them at the beginning of winter, but I can still feel a breeze! And I need a new garage door, it has a gap on one side that's almost two inches. We threw a level on the floor and it's level, but the door is so old I think it's warped. Ahhh, the pleasures of being a homeowner! LOL

“Poke the bear at your own risk”

Since: Sep 07

Fort Lupton, CO

#23 Jan 24, 2008
GSXR Chick wrote:
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Yeah, I need new windows also, the previous owners replaced five in the front of the house, which really keeps the cold out, but the ones in the family room and bedroom downstairs are pretty bad. I put plastic over them at the beginning of winter, but I can still feel a breeze! And I need a new garage door, it has a gap on one side that's almost two inches. We threw a level on the floor and it's level, but the door is so old I think it's warped. Ahhh, the pleasures of being a homeowner! LOL
Ahh yes the pleasures, however I would never be a renter again (at least not for any length of time)

“I miss you T!”

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#24 Jan 24, 2008
The Iggy wrote:
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Ahh yes the pleasures, however I would never be a renter again (at least not for any length of time)
Me neither....I have owned my own home since I was 22, then when I left my ex husband, I had to rent for almost three years, I hated it! There was no way I could afford the mortgage on the house that we had just bought, so he kept it. That's okay, I like my house now WAY more than his! LOL (well, except that his has a three car garage ad a basement...maybe my next house!)

“Feel my heat”

Since: Sep 07

Denver

#25 Jan 24, 2008
The Iggy wrote:
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I was under the same impression. Saw a story on the news the other night saying that our prices would increase to pay for the gas line to Ohio. Why? Shouldn't the people in Ohio pay for it? and the states in between?
On the xcel bill question, my energy bill (gas/elec) From Xcel double in Dec from $102 in Nov to $201 in Dec. Jan's bill only went up $60 but it has been BUTT cold. I am not sure my space heater use last week was included in that. 7 days waiting for parts for my furnace, UGH! I won't be thrilled about it next month I am sure.
LOL. The Rockies Express is the savior to my stock options and salary. Rockies natural gas producers such as myself have suffered in the past couple of years in terms of price, because we had too much natural gas and nowhere for it to go. This surplus of gas caused our price to be very low, while the price of gas on the east coast was very high. As more of these pipelines are built, the price of natural gas should even out over the whole nation. So I'd say that 75% of the reason why your natural gas bill is higher is due to that, the other 25% is due to the alternative energy initiatives. If you want a stock tip, though, buy stock in Rocky Mountain natural gas producers, because the futures traders are getting restless with the stagnant $90-100/bbl oil, and see natural gas as an undervalued commodity, so the price of it should go up this year, along with the stocks of producers in the area (since the Rocky Mountains is the Saudi Arabia of natural gas).

“Who likes shots & has 2 thumbs”

Level 1

Since: Jul 07

BOULDER

#26 Jan 28, 2008
Went from 40 in November to 120 in December.... I need new windows.
spaulding

Denver, CO

#27 Jan 28, 2008
Stacked wrote:
Went from 40 in November to 120 in December.... I need new windows.
Stacked, not to be outdone, my xcel bill last February was a whopping $425. Nasty!

“I miss you T!”

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#28 Jan 28, 2008
spaulding wrote:
<quoted text>Stacked, not to be outdone, my xcel bill last February was a whopping $425. Nasty!
HOLY CRAP! What, do you live in a castle?????
spaulding

Denver, CO

#29 Jan 28, 2008
GSXR Chick wrote:
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HOLY CRAP! What, do you live in a castle?????
Hey Chick, I just got my power bill for THIS February, it was $341. I feel like I just won the lottery! It's too high!

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