Did I really cheat?

[Hussie]

cuttershelper wrote:

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Sorry Hussie, was asking that of kikki. My apologies for not clarifying that sooner. I understand and respect your viewpoint.

Gotcha...It's all good...

[Burk]

Stacey wrote:

I feel really confused and unsure what to do. Last night I watched a movie with two of my boyfriend's friends from school.(My boyfriend is away working at a summer camp.) Anyway, nothing major happened, but I ended up jacking both of them off. We didn't even kiss, but I feel kind of bad about it becuase we had a really fun time. Has anyone else been been in this position before? How did you resolve the inner conflict?

As a guy I would never do that with my friends girl what kind of friends does he have were you all drunk/loaded because it sounds like it.

Some lousy friends and you how would you feel if you boyfriend at work pleasured some other girl.

Get a grip....sorry get a handle sorry...just good luck and try not to do that with your boyfriends friends some day you will be doing your husbands brothers.

you can resolve the inner conflict when you tell your boyfriend and tell him it was a one time thing and you won't do that ever again or say good bye to him and start over with a lesson learned.

[Bit438]

Stacey wrote:

I feel really confused and unsure what to do. Last night I watched a movie with two of my boyfriend's friends from school.(My boyfriend is away working at a summer camp.) Anyway, nothing major happened, but I ended up jacking both of them off. We didn't even kiss, but I feel kind of bad about it becuase we had a really fun time. Has anyone else been been in this position before? How did you resolve the inner conflict?

My gawd.

Yes you cheated. Reason? Despite what some ignorance people will claim, you cheated because :
-you experienced or gave, sexual pleasure to someone else IN ANY WAY.

WHY would this confuse you? Because you've heard the Bill Clinton routine "If the penis didnt enter the vagina and an orgasm took place, it's not cheating." Listen for truth on this :
People like this who say these things are saying them so they can "get away with cheating". Never listen to cheaters for advice or opinions. That would be as bad as listening to muggers on why mugging isnt really mugging but something else.

And you said "nothing major happened". YES it did. So you may as well stop lying to yourself on this.

I'd venture a guess that the Bill Clinton mentality has had a hand at influencing you on this issue. But as I said -
NEVER listen to cheaters for opinions or advice. They're only saying these attitudes because they're trying to "get away with cheating".

[Bit438]

Telstar wrote:

In this day and age of sex on the first date - Don't worry too much about jerking a couple of guys off.

See Stacey? This is what I mean. NEVER take advice from someone who in that position would be "trying to get away with cheating".

Telstar -
HOW can she "date" when she's "taken"? Perhaps you didn't get what she said.

[Bit438]

Stacked wrote:

I think you REALLY cheated because you admitted to having fun. Just think of how much fun it will be to your boyfriend to hear this story and you know...

"Admitting to having fun" is NOT what makes it cheating.

You're apparently another Bill Clinton thinking victim.

It's cheating if you simply give sex pleasure to anyone or even with yourself while knowing someone is watching and enjoying the view. "Giving sex pleasure in ANY FORM" IS cheating.

I'll give the same advice to you I gave to her :
NEVER listen to cheaters like Bill Clinton on what's called "cheating" since their opinions are that way because they're "trying to get away with cheating".

If you do this anyway, the next thing you know you'll BELIEVE another twit like a mugger who says :
It's not mugging if I do it with a friend watching.

If you were mugged with "his friend watching", I bet you'd call it mugging ANYWAY. And why? Because you see his opinion as an attempt to "get away with a mugging", and rightly so.

Now, apply this common sense everywhere in life and you'll not make anymore mistakes.

[Bit438]

cuttershelper wrote:

Personally I cannot lay judgment on anyone without knowing them, their personality and their characteristics. Based on one single post I will not agree that a person is a slut just because she JO'd a couple guys. It's sex. It's natural. It's fun.
What's the problem?
Are you asexual?

See? Another typical example of the Bill Clinton thinking crowd. This one has even so far as to try a feeble insult to make himself feel better for having a sex hang up and a sex addiction, by saying :
It's sex. It's natural. It's fun.
What's the problem?
Are you asexual?

That's another piece of advice I can give :
NEVER listen to people with sex hang ups and a sex addiction. Unless you DON'T MIND the numerous std's this lifestyle attratcs with it, and don't forget that "empty and alone feeling" they all get after doing it long enough (which they leave out when they "advertise their lifestyle").

[Bit438]

Froon wrote:

Whether you cheated is up to your partner; it's not up to you and it's not up to us.
"Cheating" varies from person to person; the one who gets to decide is the one who may or may not have been cheated. Maybe he's cool with it; maybe he'd think it's hot. Maybe not. Find out.

Another example of the Bill Clinton sick thinking.

Another piece of advice :
NEVER listen to people who try to "make themselves feel better for causing and spreading numberous STD's due to sex addixtion and a sex hang up". Referring to he/she saying "It's not up to you to define it, he may be ok with it". Actually this is a LIE from someone with a sex hang up and a sex addiction because in reality :

IF he were ok with it, this only means you DID cheat but he's so ill as to either not care or even sicker if he likes it.

What this person is trying to do is to sell you on the "swellness of alternative lifestyles". Well, they who "sell it" are like drug addicts who ALSO sell others on "how swell drugs are" but does an addict selling their own addiction have any truth to say in reality? NOPE. They're "selling the lifestyle" because this is part of the sickness. Also part of the sickness is to LEAVE OUT the part they ALL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH, which is :
-a host of medical symptoms from numerous repeat bouts of std's.
-eventual feeling of aloneness and feeling unwanted and unloved.

Don't be surprised that they leave that out. This is not different than drug addicts who "sell the swellness of drugs" but LEAVE OUT theyre' lives being dragged into a pit hell with many medical problems among other nasty effects to deal with.

As I said, NEVER listen to anyone with a sex hang up and a sex addiction who tries to "sell that alertnative lifestyle" as though it was "peachy keen". Fact is... their addiction MAKES THEM them ALL LIE. That's part of what addictions do to people, it causes them to LIE and BIG TIME.

Check it out if you have doubts. There IS such a thing medically as a sex addiction - you can Google it anytime you choose to. Psychiatrists would have a field day with these ill people (and ILL is the right word for it).

Being a medical researcher I have years of experience in the medical field. I've seen many sex addicts like these people - there are unfortunately tons out there who won't seek help. But it's like any other addiction - part of why they don't seek help is that part of addiction is big time denial, and worse "thinking it's actually the right way to live". Perhaps some day these people will right their lives, but in the meantime DON'T LISTEN to addicts of ANY type.

[Bit438]

Burk wrote:

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As a guy I would never do that with my friends girl what kind of friends does he have were you all drunk/loaded because it sounds like it.
Some lousy friends and you how would you feel if you boyfriend at work pleasured some other girl.
Get a grip....sorry get a handle sorry...just good luck and try not to do that with your boyfriends friends some day you will be doing your husbands brothers.
you can resolve the inner conflict when you tell your boyfriend and tell him it was a one time thing and you won't do that ever again or say good bye to him and start over with a lesson learned.

Good advice. I couldn't agree more.

I must also add one more thing to this topic :

There's a REASON WHY people get repeated std's from living this way. It's because life will produce bad results when you're taking improper actions. And the way to stop this is to STOP the bad behavior(s).

I mention this because if she were to keep up on this route, she'd become an std-magnet (forgive my frankness as well as feeling alone). And like anything else in life, we must try to function as successful adults - this will be hampered if we continue to partake in behaviors that keep producing bad results. Henceforth, learning from mistakes such as this and not repeating this mistake is a sign of a healthy, succussful adult. Doing otherwise will only bring bad and more bad - it's natures way and nature cannot be stopped.

[cuttershelper]

Bit438 wrote:

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See? Another typical example of the Bill Clinton thinking crowd. This one has even so far as to try a feeble insult to make himself feel better for having a sex hang up and a sex addiction, by saying :
It's sex. It's natural. It's fun.
What's the problem?
Are you asexual?
That's another piece of advice I can give :
NEVER listen to people with sex hang ups and a sex addiction. Unless you DON'T MIND the numerous std's this lifestyle attratcs with it, and don't forget that "empty and alone feeling" they all get after doing it long enough (which they leave out when they "advertise their lifestyle").

OK MOM, take a Valium.
I have NO sex hangups OR addiction, I am a typical male in a healthy marriage with a child. I don't need anything to feel better, although commenting on your slew of idiotic remarks brings a certain amount of satisfaction. You have no clue whatsoever what type of person you are talking to...but you sure can lay judgment pretty quick from one sentence.
On a side note:
I'll take a relaxed president like Bill over the dumbs#!t Bush any day, BJ or not.

So, for the record, you can take your opinion of me and shove it swiftly and firmly up your ignorant a$$!! I really dislike responding in this manner and most will tell you that I usually don't, but you pushed the limit with your "opinion".

All it takes to survive in this sexual world is a little common sense, the antiquated "motherly" advice given by stiffs like yourself takes every thread of fun out of it.

Have a great day!!

[Mosely Dr]

Stacey wrote:

I feel really confused and unsure what to do. Last night I watched a movie with two of my boyfriend's friends from school.(My boyfriend is away working at a summer camp.) Anyway, nothing major happened, but I ended up jacking both of them off. We didn't even kiss, but I feel kind of bad about it becuase we had a really fun time. Has anyone else been been in this position before? How did you resolve the inner conflict?

MMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMM if you did this just watching a movie, I will bet you'd be the life of the party when booze is involved. one thing for sure is that the 2 dudes are really not your boyfriend's friends and your boyfriend does not mean much to you. move on.

[Hussie]

Mosely Dr wrote:

<quoted text>MMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMM if you did this just watching a movie, I will bet you'd be the life of the party when booze is involved. one thing for sure is that the 2 dudes are really not your boyfriend's friends and your boyfriend does not mean much to you. move on.

Well said...

[Cali4NADreamn]

First, I hope this is a joke post. But if not, since you feel guilty you already know the answer to your question. You sound young (really young). If you are having trouble staying "faithful" while your boyfriend is away at summer camp maybe you are not ready for a relationship. And giving handjobs to other guys for "fun" only makes you easy. Soon you'll have a line out the front door of guys ready to use you and abuse you, laugh behind your back and call you trash. Fun is one thing, but letting yourself become someone else's sex toy is just sad. Have some respect for yourself, girl!

[Marty Luther Koon]

Did you swallow?

[Wow]

What a s1ut.

[Wow]

And a big ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^› to topix for censoring me.

[Hussie]

Wow wrote:

And a big ‹^›‹(•¿•)› to topix for censoring me.

They didn't like the way you said "slut"...

[Stacked]

Froon wrote:

Whether you cheated is up to your partner; it's not up to you and it's not up to us.
"Cheating" varies from person to person; the one who gets to decide is the one who may or may not have been cheated. Maybe he's cool with it; maybe he'd think it's hot. Maybe not. Find out.

I concur... but you think she will tell him that she enjoyed it? I wouldn't but then why would I do it???? ;)

[Stacked]

Hussie wrote:

<quoted text>I would agree, if the person hadn't decided to air their dirty laundry on a forum site...
That being said, it sounds as though the poster is not only proud of what she did, but doesn't give a shit enough about her boyfriend to at least tell him...
That, to me, is slutty...

i aired mine out here before... I cheated, told guy, and then he started stalking me a little....
I am not sure what I wanted anymore by doing it but I got more then I asked for too! Hahahaha

[Stacked]

Bit438 wrote:

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"Admitting to having fun" is NOT what makes it cheating.
You're apparently another Bill Clinton thinking victim.
It's cheating if you simply give sex pleasure to anyone or even with yourself while knowing someone is watching and enjoying the view. "Giving sex pleasure in ANY FORM" IS cheating.
I'll give the same advice to you I gave to her :
NEVER listen to cheaters like Bill Clinton on what's called "cheating" since their opinions are that way because they're "trying to get away with cheating".
If you do this anyway, the next thing you know you'll BELIEVE another twit like a mugger who says :
It's not mugging if I do it with a friend watching.
If you were mugged with "his friend watching", I bet you'd call it mugging ANYWAY. And why? Because you see his opinion as an attempt to "get away with a mugging", and rightly so.
Now, apply this common sense everywhere in life and you'll not make anymore mistakes.

Okay, okay Hilary..... all I meant is that she thought hand jobs were innocent. She enjoyed herself. Nothing was forced or cooerced. I have been young and drunk and arround boys myself and know things happen that you do not want to happen. I don't condone anyone's actions here.
I will not apply such adage to my life and make mistakes until the day I die, but thank you for your advice.

[Telstar]

Stacked wrote:

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I have been young and drunk and arround boys myself and know things happen that you do not want to happen.

I think we dated back in high school.

And you were FUN!