US school shooting revives gun debate

There are 20 comments on the Dec 14, 2012, Yahoo! story titled US school shooting revives gun debate. In it, Yahoo! reports that:

Relatives of those killed in past mass shootings reacted with outrage to Friday's news of another massacre at an elementary school in Connecticut.

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downhill246

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#1938 Feb 1, 2013
Cathouse Mouse wrote:
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There's already a ban on foreign made assault rifles entering this country, per GHW Bush.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/07/08/us/import-b...
You should refrain from thinking I don't know what I'm talking about.
So now the AK 47 semi automatic assault stytle rifle is made in America.

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Cathouse Mouse

#1939 Feb 1, 2013
Minister of Propaganda wrote:
<quoted text>As I said in my statement which you failed to read, they are imported under the term "sporterized" and are easily modified back to their original form and are completely legal. So, in a nutshell, you do not know what you are talking about, or you have the retentive power of a sieve. Would you like your crow before or after I post a list of websites currently LEGALLY selling detachable magazine semi automatic shotguns manufactured in Russia? They move the trigger assembly back, and remove the pistol grip. New owner buys the legal shotgun, removed 2 pins, relocated the trigger assembly, installs pistol grip, and changes a few more parts to American made, and then has a semi auto assault shotgun. The same thing can be done with the .308 caliber, and 7.62x39 models as well as a few others I do not remember. This is the problem with people crying for gun control. Most of the people calling for all these strict measures haven't bothered to read up on anything. They are as ignorant as you.
Maybe you didn't read the link.

Modifications are considered manufacturing, thus creating an illegal operation, aka gun violation aka crime, thus removing you from "law abiding gun owner" status.

I think your only interest is to argue and call people names.

“Heaven beside you”

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#1940 Feb 1, 2013
Cathouse Mouse wrote:
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Maybe you didn't read the link.
Modifications are considered manufacturing, thus creating an illegal operation, aka gun violation aka crime, thus removing you from "law abiding gun owner" status.
I think your only interest is to argue and call people names.
As I said, had you consulted the ATF website you would understand that modifying a firearm as described is perfectly legal, when you follow the guidelines. So you are incorrect once again, calling it a crime to modify said weapon. I believe if you search 922 compliance parts on the ATF website you will find the info I mentioned, but I don't think you bothered to educate yourself on short barreled weapons, so I am most likely wasting my time offering you further resources. Your comment about calling names is quite humorous. I have noticed your barefoot friend repeatedly call others names, but apparently it is ok with you, as long as they agree with you.

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#1941 Feb 1, 2013
just another guy wrote:
The attempt to ban any weapon they choose will sparl a civil war.
NY passed the ban.

I guess the Civil War is coming as soon as the gun gnutters load up theys pickup trucks.

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Cathouse Mouse

#1942 Feb 1, 2013
Minister of Propaganda wrote:
<quoted text>As I said, had you consulted the ATF website you would understand that modifying a firearm as described is perfectly legal, when you follow the guidelines. So you are incorrect once again, calling it a crime to modify said weapon. I believe if you search 922 compliance parts on the ATF website you will find the info I mentioned, but I don't think you bothered to educate yourself on short barreled weapons, so I am most likely wasting my time offering you further resources. Your comment about calling names is quite humorous. I have noticed your barefoot friend repeatedly call others names, but apparently it is ok with you, as long as they agree with you.
Did I not already say in this thread that any weapon can be owned with proper permits?

Did I not also say that any weapon the Government chooses can be deemed illegal?

It appears that your issue with me is the legality of US manufactured firearms that have been modified with foreign parts.

C o r r e c t ?

Can I safely assume that this modification is a "do it yourself" thing thus in most cases not done by a licensed gunsmith - or is that a stretch?

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Cathouse Mouse

#1943 Feb 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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NY passed the ban.
I guess the Civil War is coming as soon as the gun gnutters load up theys pickup trucks.
Why do these righties always want me to go read it somewhere else, or copy'paste from some site? How come when they're asked something they can't respond with their own opinion, instead of needing to Google first? I find solice in thinking about how many I've helped educate by sending them on researches.

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#1944 Feb 1, 2013
Cathouse Mouse wrote:
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Why do these righties always want me to go read it somewhere else, or copy'paste from some site?
rhetorical, right?

why does au dumbo pretend he isn't using another alias (aliaseseses)?

Is there someone on Topix he thinks is fooled?

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#1945 Feb 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>You have already been proved wrong.

You stomping your feet doesn't make you any smarter or doesn't change the lie.

Do American felons have a right to bear arms?
Are you seriously asking the question or are you being rhetorical? Either way you're thoughts seem as limited as you maturity.

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#1946 Feb 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>They aren't.
Yes they are. It's called the Bill of Rights.

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#1947 Feb 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Worst recession since WWII.

Look it up.

Highest level unemployment.

Look it up.

Stomp your feet all you like.
Nothing to back it up right. Limited thoughts and maturity make you thick.

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#1948 Feb 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
Either way you're thoughts seem as limited as you maturity.
~stomp stomp stomp~!

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! MOMMMY! he's so imMATURE!

~stomp stomp stomp~!

DOLT: you already told us a fifteen year old has a "constitutional" right to carry a weapon and now it's a felon.

I'm not surprised, just want you to post it so when others wonder why you are mocked, I can quote you verbatim.

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#1949 Feb 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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Yes they are. It's called the Bill of Rights.
The Bill of Rights does not grant minors all other rights citizens have.

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#1950 Feb 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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Nothing to back it up right.
I don't back up the statement that the sun comes up in the east either.

But the recession wasn't as bad as I said it was- or that unemployment wasn't the highest (10.8 percent) since WWII - you can hold it over my head and I shouldn't post anymore in this thread.

I am certain you will make the same offer.

Tell us: Since WWII, when was the level unemployment higher than under Reagan?

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#1951 Feb 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>~stomp stomp stomp~!

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! MOMMMY! he's so imMATURE!

~stomp stomp stomp~!

DOLT: you already told us a fifteen year old has a "constitutional" right to carry a weapon and now it's a felon.

I'm not surprised, just want you to post it so when others wonder why you are mocked, I can quote you verbatim.
I'm guessing 9. Because my 10 year old has more maturity and thought than you.

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#1952 Feb 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>The Bill of Rights does not grant minors all other rights citizens have.
Really. And what's your basis? Who told you that? What document exempts kids from right given by God?

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#1953 Feb 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't back up the statement that the sun comes up in the east either.

But the recession wasn't as bad as I said it was- or that unemployment wasn't the highest (10.8 percent) since WWII - you can hold it over my head and I shouldn't post anymore in this thread.

I am certain you will make the same offer.

Tell us: Since WWII, when was the level unemployment higher than under Reagan?
So to you the only think that matters is unemployment? What about GDP, profits, growth, stagnation, inflation, or how does taxes play into economics?
Our president Obama claimed that the recession of 2008 was the worst since the Great Depression, was he wrong?

You don't think well do you?

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Cathouse Mouse

#1954 Feb 1, 2013
This is a gun debate thread. Not taxes, not GDP, not the economy.

It's about people with guns killing children and what should be done about it.

Stay focused.

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#1955 Feb 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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I'm guessing 9. Because my 10 year old has more maturity and thought than you.
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! MOMMY! I can dish it out but ~SOB!~ I can't take it!

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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#1956 Feb 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
Really. And what's your basis?
Let me know the very minute you find that the US court backs your assertion: that 15 year olds have a constitutional right to carry the firearm.

Since all 50 states have laws restricting access and ownership to minors.

Here's one that says you are wrong:
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United States v. Rene E., 583 F.3d 8 (1st Cir. 2009) On August 31, 2009, the First Circuit affirmed the conviction of a juvenile for the illegal possession of a handgun as a juvenile, under 18 U.S.C. 922(x)(2)(A) and 18 U.S.C. 5032, rejecting the defendant's argument that the federal law violated his Second Amendment rights under Heller.

The court cited "the existence of a longstanding tradition of prohibiting juveniles from both receiving and possessing handguns" and observed "the federal ban on juvenile possession of handguns is part of a longstanding practice of prohibiting certain classes of individuals from possessing firearms those whose possession poses a particular danger to the public.

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#1957 Feb 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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You don't think well do you?
Still waiting for you to prove my statement was wrong: you're all mouth, big soft sticky mouth.

Highest unemployment since WWII Reagan. Proved.

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