US school shooting revives gun debate

[Respect71]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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What is sadder is that he had access to a weapon- which, according to the news release- was yet another assault weapon.

Which is his right as an American... What more sad is people like you ignore him because of your irrational fear.

[Respect71]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Gosh, it's hard to say what you are talking about, it looks like you've cracked the lid and started early.

Be ignorant... Your right are being removed slowly but surely AND when you graduate you will find out just how much if you get a job.

[downhill246]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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WAR.
I know, donglicker: you don't know the difference.

Have you had your gay fetish all your life or just from when you were gang raped by your high school football team every Saturday for four years during football season?

[downhill246]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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NY already has.
Five other states have bill before their legislatures- we are two weeks into the debate.
The tone of the debater in Congress is different than it was four years ago.
It seems that ever new mass murder makes a little more noise.
By ALYSSA NEWCOMB (@alyssanewcomb)
Jan. 20, 2013
The bullet-ridden bodies of three adults and two children were found inside an Albuquerque, N.M., home late Saturday, authorities confirmed today.
A teenage boy was arrested and is being charged with two counts of murder and three counts of child abuse resulting in death, according to Deputy Aaron Williamson of the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department.
The name of the boy has not been released, and his motive and connection to the victims was not immediately known, Williamson said.
"We're still in the early stages of the investigation, trying to determine, their identity and once we have everybody identified, then we'll be able to determine whether or not there was any relationship among the deceased or the offender," Williamson said.
Authorities responded to the family home Saturday around 9:15 p.m., and found multiple casualties. An assault-type rifle, along with several other weapons, were recovered at the scene.
The victims, including an adult male and female, two girls, and one boy, appeared to have suffered "multiple gunshot wounds," Williamson said.
Final identifications of the victims are currently under way, he said.

Three wayward firearms from the Obama administration's infamous gun control Operation Fast and Furious were found at the scene of the 2010 Juarez birthday party massacre where fourteen young men and women were murdered, mostly teenagers. Another twelve were wounded. Way to go, Barack.

[downhill246]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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NY already has.
Five other states have bill before their legislatures- we are two weeks into the debate.
The tone of the debater in Congress is different than it was four years ago.
It seems that ever new mass murder makes a little more noise.
By ALYSSA NEWCOMB (@alyssanewcomb)
Jan. 20, 2013
The bullet-ridden bodies of three adults and two children were found inside an Albuquerque, N.M., home late Saturday, authorities confirmed today.
A teenage boy was arrested and is being charged with two counts of murder and three counts of child abuse resulting in death, according to Deputy Aaron Williamson of the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department.
The name of the boy has not been released, and his motive and connection to the victims was not immediately known, Williamson said.
"We're still in the early stages of the investigation, trying to determine, their identity and once we have everybody identified, then we'll be able to determine whether or not there was any relationship among the deceased or the offender," Williamson said.
Authorities responded to the family home Saturday around 9:15 p.m., and found multiple casualties. An assault-type rifle, along with several other weapons, were recovered at the scene.
The victims, including an adult male and female, two girls, and one boy, appeared to have suffered "multiple gunshot wounds," Williamson said.
Final identifications of the victims are currently under way, he said.

So you agree there is no chance to pass a federal assault weapon ban or federally restrict high capacity magazines thirty rounds or less.

[barefoot2626]

Respect71 wrote:

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Yes it does... It's the second amendment.

I have to remind you that when I quote the Second Amendment, I quote it in its entirety.

You don't.

And just because you say the second amendment in every other post it is clear that you don't understand it any better than your first.

[barefoot2626]

Respect71 wrote:

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Which is his right as an American...

OH YOU DON'T SAY?

Do show us all where in the US Constitution a 15 year old teenager has a *right* as an American to have access to an assault weapon!

Here's a thought: start with his right to a single shot bolt action 22 and work your way up to the AR-15.

I'll wait..

[barefoot2626]

downhill246 wrote:

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Three wayward firearms from the Obama administration's infamous gun control Operation Fast and Furious

Bush's Operation Wide Receiver opened the door.

PS: Notice how your ranting about F&F got you that Herman Cain election you had wanted...

oh wait...

[Respect71]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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I have to remind you that when I quote the Second Amendment, I quote it in its entirety.
You don't.
And just because you say the second amendment in every other post it is clear that you don't understand it any better than your first.

Need I remind you of all of you childish immature posts that one could only assume you are 11 and scared of more than just guns?

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

Just because you're afraid of Americans owning firearms doesn’t mean you push government to remove that right.

[Respect71]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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OH YOU DON'T SAY?
Do show us all where in the US Constitution a 15 year old teenager has a *right* as an American to have access to an assault weapon!
Here's a thought: start with his right to a single shot bolt action 22 and work your way up to the AR-15.
I'll wait..

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

Federal law doesn’t allow the sale of a firearm to anyone under 21, however, that doesn’t prohibit a young man from firearm ownership. Regardless, your logic on making a firearm illegal doesn’t fly does it? The 15 year old acquired and used the gun regardless of what law is in place.
Laws ONLY affect the law abiding citizen, NOT the bad guy.
So, when was the last time you reached out to a troubled teen?

[Voluntarist]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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If you think the federal government is after your rights, then you are nothing more than a paranoid schizophrenic.

Was this guy paranoid?

“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they
be properly armed.”– Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers

or this guy?

“The Constitution preserves “the advantage of being armed which
Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation…
(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”-
James Madison, The Federalist, No. 46

[barefoot2626]

Respect71 wrote:

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“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

Ah, you are quoting my posts.

Good boy.

[barefoot2626]

Respect71 wrote:

Federal law doesn’t allow the sale of a firearm to anyone under 21, however, that doesn’t prohibit a young man from firearm ownership.

I guess you cannot answer the question and move the goalposts.

But then: that is what the gun gnutter does.

Does the Second Amendment give 15 year olds the right to carry (own, polish) firearms?

Yes or no?

[barefoot2626]

Respect71 wrote:

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Need I remind you of all of you childish immature posts that one could only assume you are 11 and scared of more than just guns?

Need I remind you I just asked you to prove your assertion: that this fifteen year old had a right to the gun... that he used to kill five people.

And you have your foreskin caught in your zipper and you are crying about it.

[barefoot2626]

Respect71 wrote:

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Which is his right as an American...

So- you made the assertion, referring to the fifteen year old boy that killed five.

I guess no one is allowed to demand you back it up, eh?

[barefoot2626]

Respect71 wrote:

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Be ignorant... Your right are being removed slowly but surely AND when you graduate you will find out just how much if you get a job.

I pay more in taxes than you make in a year, knobjob.

Does a fifteen year old have a right to an assault weapon- like you said?

Yes or no?

[Respect71]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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I guess you cannot answer the question and move the goalposts.
But then: that is what the gun gnutter does.
Does the Second Amendment give 15 year olds the right to carry (own, polish) firearms?
Yes or no?

Yes.

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

[Respect71]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Need I remind you I just asked you to prove your assertion: that this fifteen year old had a right to the gun... that he used to kill five people.
And you have your foreskin caught in your zipper and you are crying about it.

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

[Respect71]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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I pay more in taxes than you make in a year, knobjob.
Does a fifteen year old have a right to an assault weapon- like you said?
Yes or no?

“I pay more in taxes than you make in a year, knobjob.” Not likely.

“Does a fifteen year old have a right to an assault weapon- like you said?

Yes or no?”

Yes.

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

[Voluntarist]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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I guess you cannot answer the question and move the goalposts.
But then: that is what the gun gnutter does.
Does the Second Amendment give 15 year olds the right to carry (own, polish) firearms?
Yes or no?

Many boys used to carry their rifles to school as early as 60 years ago.

A boy can carry a rifle his parents being responsible for his actions.