US school shooting revives gun debate

Dec 14, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Yahoo!

Relatives of those killed in past mass shootings reacted with outrage to Friday's news of another massacre at an elementary school in Connecticut.

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'THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED'
Funny how an expert on copy and paste like you (and the other aliases you post under) some how left off the first part of the amendment.

As you always do...

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I saw a movie once where only the government and military had guns.
It was called Schindler's List.
You are a liar.

I think to be a member of the NRA- or a fellow traveler- it is required that you can lie without batting an eye and you got eyebatting down pat.

Putting aside your strained metaphor... Germany did not ban private ownership of guns...
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leftards all have their panties in a bunch.don't know why they do,as they shoot revolvers and can't shoot a semi auto with a limp wrist and they might get to keep the revolvers.

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No they can't.
Yes they can, Donglicker, and they have before (and to an unfortunately too limited extent) limit them now.

Look forward to bans on assault weapons, limits on semiautomatic handguns, a federally run gun registration program, elimination of massacre magazines, and an ATF with teeth.

Tick tock...
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Wrong,... ex post facto laws are not presumptively unconstitutional.
Feinstein's Assault weapon ban proposal

Although current owners of banned weapons would have their guns grandfathered in, Sen. Feinstein’s ban would require that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act (NFA). According to the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, this would impose a “$200 tax per firearm.” In essence, this proposed ban would punish gun owners for firearms they already own and that were not illegal at the time of purchase. This is the very definition of an “ex post facto” law, prohibited by Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/22456/assua...

Then we can't forget this little gem

Obamacare

Gun Amendment in Health Care
Law -- Senate amendment 3276,
Sec. 2716, part c "PROTECTION
OF SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS"[/
Government CANNOT collect:
"...any information relating to --
(A) the lawful ownership or
possession of a firearm or
ammunition."

2nd Amendment health care with no deductible, no co pay.
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Yes they can, Donglicker, and they have before (and to an unfortunately too limited extent) limit them now.
Look forward to bans on assault weapons, limits on semiautomatic handguns, a federally run gun registration program, elimination of massacre magazines, and an ATF with teeth.
Tick tock...
Yawn...

Lol Sounds like a liberal wet dream

Obamacare

Gun Amendment in Health Care
Law -- Senate amendment 3276,
Sec. 2716, part c "PROTECTION
OF SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS"[/

Government CANNOT collect:
"...any information relating to --
(A) the lawful ownership or
possession of a firearm or
ammunition."

present to the NRA.
The Harry Reid
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You are a liar.
I think to be a member of the NRA- or a fellow traveler- it is required that you can lie without batting an eye and you got eyebatting down pat.
Putting aside your strained metaphor... Germany did not ban private ownership of guns...


It did for the Jews.

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downhill246 wrote:
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Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden
Not ex post facto law dingbat!

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

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Although current owners of banned weapons would have their guns grandfathered in, Sen. Feinstein’s ban would require that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act (NFA).
Could be grandfathered.

Could also be banned.

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It did for the Jews.
Let's see: that would leave 98 percent of Germany with the right to own firearms.

Gosh: that didn't come out in the post, eh?
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barefoot2626 wrote:
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Not ex post facto law dingbat!
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Now I know you were born with a genetically engineered special kind of stupid. It puts the normal everyday stupid to shame. It borders on perfect stupid and it is only a matter of time before you perfect it, flamer.

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downhill246 wrote:
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Government CANNOT collect:
"...any information relating to --
(A) the lawful ownership or
possession of a firearm or
ammunition."
This week, CNN reported on what they labeled a “secret” provision put in the healthcare law by Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) that was aimed at keeping gun-right groups from opposing the law.
Conservatives have long argued that since most members of Congress did not read the law, there are several parts of it that we do not yet understand. This CNN report gave conservatives hope that some of those parts may even have ended up benefiting some conservative causes.

CNN claimed that the provision stated that ‘Government cannot collect:“…any information relating to —(A) The lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.”‘

Hot Air, Breitbart News and several other conservative sites picked up on that description and reported it as positive news for gun right advocates.

But CNN omitted a key part of that section of the law, which gives the provision a very different meaning. The full section states:

‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the

authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that

Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the

collection of any information relating to—

‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm

or ammunition;

‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.’

This means that the provision does not actually prevent the collection of any such data, instead it clarifies that nothing in the new law explicitly grants the government power to collect that information. In other words, if other laws or orders allow for the collection of the data described above, this provision will do nothing to reverse that.

While it is true that we are still figuring out exactly what was in this monstrous 2800 page bill, this specific provision is not really the silver lining some people were looking for.
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Could be grandfathered.
Could also be banned.
Punting already?
The smart legislation would be to grandfather all the firearms and ban all the control freak liberals and protect the few remaining liberals under the Endangered Species Act.

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Gosh... it seems that the gun gnutters are only reading the parts they like and disregarding the rest... as they do with the second amendment...

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Now I know you were born with a genetically engineered special kind of stupid.
Let's see what else you say:

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Ah, personal attacks are signs of a weak argument. You are easy.
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Let's see: that would leave 98 percent of Germany with the right to own firearms.
Gosh: that didn't come out in the post, eh?
Yet the 2% are the ones that died in the death camps, right?
Point made.
Next!
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Ah, personal attacks are signs of a weak argument. You are easy.
You started the personal attacks years ago but you are like a lost gay child among adults. In other words you are easy, flamer.
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Let's see: that would leave 98 percent of Germany with the right to own firearms.
Gosh: that didn't come out in the post, eh?
Nazi Weapons Act of 1938 (Translated to English)

Classified guns for "sporting purposes".
All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check.
Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law.
Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons.
The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats.
Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition.

“Pffffffffffft!”

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You are a liar.
I think to be a member of the NRA- or a fellow traveler- it is required that you can lie without batting an eye and you got eyebatting down pat.
Putting aside your strained metaphor... Germany did not ban private ownership of guns...
I lied about seeing a movie?

*pats frothy mouthed angry boy on the head*

There there... take your meds today?
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Gosh... it seems that the gun gnutters are only reading the parts they like and disregarding the rest... as they do with the second amendment...
Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing of firearms and ammunition and on November 11, 1938, Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons were passed,which effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.

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